It's NOT Easy Being Republican

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Do you think it's wrong to insult people who disagree with you?
Yes 78%  78%  [ 38 ]
No 22%  22%  [ 11 ]
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14 May 2009, 8:57 am

Paddy789 wrote:
Liberals and Conservatives are both annoying ret*ds.

I'm apolitical. :wink:

Then you most likely are probably Independent or maybe Libertarian.


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14 May 2009, 12:55 pm

Ok, Miss what's her name simply stated her belief about marrege. Problem is, is that she also said she believed orientation was choice. :roll: The media is being annoyingly stupid about it though. There are worser phobes out there, and they are a real bad problem. Nope. It's all miss so and so because she was in some contest in TV. :roll:

One child in the apartment complex I live in, currently, followed me with this angry expression, and it pissed me off when he said "What YOU doing here?" Over six times! :x Probably has stupid bigot parents! If we were racist, my mother and me, we wouldn't get along with our coworkers.

My coworker in the booth is clearly hispanic. (As if I cared!) Our new porter is African American and very social. (I told him he needs a better mechanic, because his current ones are cheating him! seriously. If they take your money claiming they fix it, but the car still fails inspection twice...... yeah :? They are worthless repair men.)

My mother's coworker was robbed by thugs she trusted to let into her home while she was grieving over her father's death! They stole her Bible and things that were rightfully hers from her father. Mother gave her a new cook book, hopeing it was the same kind as gotten stolen. (grrr thieves) Well, it's nice that it's the same book, just a newer copy. :D Do racists do that? no.

When the next Hurricane comes around, all the bigots and haters can sit in their pitiful little corner all by themselves while the rest of us find something to do together.

Gays and anti gays. SIGH. I just don't get some gays and how they hate Bi people and Hetero people. Come...on! Yes, go against something you think should be stopped, but don't turn into your worst enimy and be a hypocrat to top it off. Someone dissagrees... "Fag!"/"Homophobe" :roll: Childish! Good grief. The hate Homophobes are stupid enough for everyone. ("everyone" is certainly no exaggeration) Same thing with Republicans and democrats. :? oh brother. The planet is full of stupid people. Thank GOD we are different!

I have no clue as to how long this no problem solving finger pointing has been going on. It reminds me of the length of war between Jews and Muslums. They started hateing each other so far back, who knows when it really began. So yeah, let's just keep pointing the finger like brainless monkeys from the stone age and continue the slow process of nowhere. Yay, to the Democrate vrs. Republican war. NOWHERE RULES! :?



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14 May 2009, 1:35 pm

RainSong wrote:
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"homophobic, bigot, racist, ignorant, selfish"

These are not insults. If someone is calling you this, it's probably true. If you said something to deserve one of these, then you probably started it.


Oh good Lord.

Here's a fun little story for you: at the age of 8, I moved from an admittedly typical Southern town in Georgia to a little town in Ohio. I had a Southern accent, I was a lot more laid back than everyone else, and it was easy to tell that I wasn't from around there. You want to know the amount of times I was called a racist, simply for having lived in the South? I was even asked at one point, in complete seriousness, if I was part of the Ku Klux Klan. I hadn't even said a single word to some of these people (and there were no non-whites in our entire grade, if that makes a difference). I'm not even full white, although it doesn't show.

And you know what the funny thing is? That school up in Ohio was 99.9% white. There were exactly two kids in the entire high school who were black. Now that I'm back in Georgia, I realized the town I grew up in (and am back in) is maybe 50% white. The kids in Ohio were so much less accepting of them; they called them racial slurs, immediatly assumed they were walking stereotypes, and out and out refused to work with them; I was horrified to be anywhere near some of the more outspoken racist ones. In Georgia, no one cares; it makes no difference to most people about who is from where or has what skin.

Yet I'm an automatic racist because I come from the South. Glad to know I deserve that title. They said so, so it's true! Mind you, I wouldn't trust anything they said, but oh well.


Seriously, people are quick to make snap judegments without knowing anything. Those kinds of terms are thrown around because they make people react, and that's what the instigator wants. It's a button that's easy to set off.

It's not even about actual views and ideals anymore. I would have voted for McCain in the last election, had I been old enough at the time. It's not that I agree in general with the Republican ideals, because I don't, but because I felt that he would have been the better one, and I'm entitled to that opinion. Do you know why I think that? No, of course you don't, because I haven't told you. But to some people, that automatically means I'm homophobic or racist or some such thing. It's not about what I believe, because people don't know that: it's about a snap judgement.

Which is why I don't participate in politics in general. The "accept everyone" party usually annoys me, because "everyone" means "everyone who agrees with us." The "WASP males only" party annoys me, because, well "WASP males only." Everyone's always fighting without bothering to take time to think, and it's not worth it.


As a Southerner, I've never understood why a town, school, institution, etc. from the north that is 99% white is OK, yet if such a thing exists in the south, it is racist. The school you went to in Ohio that almost all white where they called the only black students names isn't a racist institution, while the mixed/school community in Georgia where nobody cares about color is racist. That doesn't make sense to me, but of course, double standards never have.


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18 May 2009, 9:05 pm

I'm an republican myself cause I feel closer to their views I don't hate anybody but with how things are now I feel like I'm being repressed by the repressed only cause when somebody doesn't know the other side that well its easy to become xenophobic but I'm proud to be an American and if at the end of the day you don't hate me I'll proudly stand shake your hand and treat you like a long-lost brother or sister



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19 May 2009, 10:43 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
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I think the main problem is that people identify themselves as "Republican" or "Democrat" in the first place. Both parties fluidly change their beliefs to achieve the highest amount of votes. Neither of the parties truely "stand" for anything in particular. If you want people to listen to your beliefs when it comes to politics, instead of identifying with a party, just state who you voted for and why. Then people can't mistakenly attribute abhorant ideals to you.


Very well-stated.


It is well-stated, but unfortunately in the U.S. it simply isn't true. Americans LOVE labels, republican/democrat for example, because it gives them a point of reference and doesn't require them to memorize (and, after all's said and done, really pay attention to whatsoever) an individual's actual spectrum of beliefs.

In this very thread, I acknowledged sympathy for the OP and suggested that people are misguided in defining the republican party by the actions and words of a few radical and well-known media figures. For that, I was immediately "labeled" a republican, despite the fact that I unequivocally stated in the same post that I am not a republican.

The part of michjo's post that is definitely true is that politics is a numbers game more than anything else, and hence, people are more concerned with which way your vote goes and WHO and WHAT you are supporting. The WHY, the actual substance of political beliefs, is far less important, and to many people these function only as data points to guide the formation of a "label".

It's a really sad state of affairs.



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19 May 2009, 9:13 pm

I agree with BigK. When your core values include intolerance, those you don't tolerate will not like you. It's nothing to whine about, since you choose to be intolerant.


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20 May 2009, 4:18 am

Everyone is intolerant to some degree. Even I have my intolerances, I'm not perfect. Emos annoy me, as do metalheads and hipsters for example. Liberals usually piss me off too, and I'm not conservative even though they'd like to say I am. I couldn't give a s**t about 9/11 or things like that, none of my business.

It's not a conservative only thing - liberals can be VERY intolerant too despite on what they leave you to believe. For example, vegans/feminists/PC brigade/any other kind of people who will see you as some moron because you don't agree with their views. Most vegans look down on meat eaters, feminists generally will label you as a rapist/something ridiculous if you disagree etc. Some "tolerance" eh? :roll:



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20 May 2009, 8:33 am

simple solution: go to democratic party.
simple reason: the nazis were rightists as well, look where it got THEM
simple reason: the republican party has screwed up america.


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20 May 2009, 2:46 pm

Yeah I get grief and insulted for being a Republican. Politics is never easy its a game of chance and strategy.
Heck there are people that dump on Rush Limbaugh all the time and he is just telling the truth of what needs to be said.


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20 May 2009, 4:22 pm

Doncostello wrote:
simple solution: go to democratic party.
simple reason: the nazis were rightists as well, look where it got THEM
simple reason: the republican party has screwed up america.


Comparing republicans to nazis is plain stupid. Remember, Hitler was a vegetarian. :wink:



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22 May 2009, 8:10 am

Shadowgirl wrote:
Yeah I get grief and insulted for being a Republican. Politics is never easy its a game of chance and strategy.
Heck there are people that dump on Rush Limbaugh all the time and he is just telling the truth of what needs to be said.



He is just telling the truth as you see it. To liberals he is nothing but a liar, and wouldn't recognize the truth if it came up and slapped him in the face.


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22 May 2009, 9:00 am

StewartMango wrote:
I think George W. Bush is a good role model for aspies weather you like him or not, because he is a terrible public speaker and most us are not good at communicating, so it gives us more hope that we too can be a president, and not to mention he went to Yale University, plus he had to put up with "bullying" worse then anything we'll ever experience and he still gets bashed even after Obama became president.

Nonsense. He is a charismatic and highly polished public performer, and no victim of bullying.



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22 May 2009, 10:01 am

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I don't mind that you intelectually disagree with same sex marriage, but I question your motives. I think straight people "get off" on picking on weak little homos like me, your motivation for being against gay rights may be purely intellectual. But you haven't been beat up for being gay, or kicked out of the military for being gay or any thing else.

I didn't choose to be a queer (sexually or mentally!) so I don't understand why you want to limit how many rights I have.


I grew up in the American South in the 1950's. The same arguements were used for keeping the "negras" second class citizens as Miss California used for her diatribe. That old canard "I was raised this way" just proves it is learned behaviour and can be unlearned.


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02 Aug 2013, 5:35 am

Paddy789 wrote:
Liberals and Conservatives are both annoying ret*ds.

I'm apolitical. :wink:


Agreed 85 % of the time they have the same policies anyways, their must be a 3 rd way for America , or will they continue to vote for the same tired old parties again and again and again....


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02 Aug 2013, 5:38 am

Paddy789 wrote:
Doncostello wrote:
simple solution: go to democratic party.
simple reason: the nazis were rightists as well, look where it got THEM
simple reason: the republican party has screwed up america.


Comparing republicans to nazis is plain stupid. Remember, Hitler was a vegetarian. :wink:


no he was not back to history class young man and yes your right about the vegans :D

oh dear I missed the joke :oops:


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02 Aug 2013, 2:22 pm

Shadowgirl wrote:
Yeah I get grief and insulted for being a Republican. Politics is never easy its a game of chance and strategy.
Heck there are people that dump on Rush Limbaugh all the time and he is just telling the truth of what needs to be said.


Putting your faith in Mr. Limbaugh seems to be an 'iffy' prospect, there Shadowgirl. Mr. Limbaugh was mistaken about how female contraception works, thinking it was like a Viagra type product, where you used one for each encounter. No wonder he went ballistic thinking that female contraception was the same, not knowing that women needed a dose everyday and for months at a time, whether they had sex or not.

But if that is your need, to place your trust in such a person, then who am I to judge?

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