Now I'm finally asking for advice

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OK, since everyone on WP don't want to accept me for who I am and seem to want to offer me advice when I'm NOT asking for it. This thread I am asking for advice.

I know I am going to end it soon. Whats the best way to do that?

Personally I would suggest driving your car into a lake and drowning.

Now I actually dont think I would want anyone to do that. But if you are hellbent on finding a good way. That one is hard to screw up on.

I think you need a friend who will accept you. And my rule is that Ill accept you if you will accept me. Wanna be friends?

You can add me on my IMs

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Or something. I would like to talk to you. I may be able to understand.. Trust me. Ive been there.

KenM,

I think that you should not go and end it all, while you might be unhappy with your lot. Think there are many people worse off in the world than yourself.

Try to think of something postive to do on this earth.

I think your perception is off because of depression. I have not seen any postings here that would indicate you are not accepted. I deal with weird feelings if someone doesn't respond to a post so I have to actively remind myself that posting on a forum is not the same as having a conversation. Your feelings are always valid but I remember reading about a guy who jumped off a bridge to kill himself (true story)-He survived but later said as he was going down he realized that the only insurmountable problem he had in his life was that he had just jumped off a bridge. I have dealt with depression for most of my life and have only felt relatively good in the last 10 years. I know from experience how it looks like you can't see out of that black pit but it is possible. You need to ask for professional help. Meds saved my life. Give them time to work and tell the doctor if they make you feel worse. That is very important. Sometimes you need to try something else or adjust the dosage. I totally understand thoughts of suicide. Depression is a disease not a choice.

This is asking for advice where bolded:

When people make posts complaining about their problems, they are basically asking for advice. Yes there are some people out there who do complain just for the heck of it and they don't want to be helped and that is not the good way to do it.


I find you a very confusing person. You want to be helped and then you act like you don't want help so it feels like a mind game to me you are playing with us. Then you say you are not asking for advice (when you were in the other thread) and this time you are with this thread. I am not going to offer any advice for how to commit suicide because then I feel responsible if that person actually does it and I feel I should be charged for it.

There are lots of ways you can kill yourself. I know, I've tried a few of them. Jumping out of high windows, poisoning, stepping in front of cars. For whatever reason, they didn't work, and I'm glad now.

Anyway... just a thought that hit me last time I was recovering from a suicide attempt.

You're dead forever. Are you sure you want to end it now? What if it doesn't end it all, and you feel like this forever? It's a long time.

I'm not given you any advice on the best way to kill yourself.

Ken you are going to die one day. Why not make the most of your life while you still can?

I'm sure there are some things you enjoy doing. Try and find some more...

I don't understand you Ken, you ask for advice by posting your problems...which to me is asking advice/take it or leave it. It seems most of your problems pertain to girls...I seriously hope that's not the ultimate reason for you to take your life.

Anyway I've been there, and there's no good way in taking your life. You'll either die a painful death or a death that seems relaxing until you find yourself rushed to the hospital with a tube down your gullet while they induce vomiting. Nothing pretty about death and once you've suceeded, there's no going back or changing your mind.

Why not seek counseling and a doctor?...Yes I know that sounds the less dramatic way to go but so far your posts have been nothing but drama. I don't say this to try and hurt you but you need to start getting honest with yourself and start dealing with reality. No one has the easy route in life. I'm still having to deal with life even single. I have both my doctor and support groups to thank for that. Taking your life is really a selfish act...you're depriving yourself and others from getting to know the real you. People here have tried to give you good feedback and input yet you still do not acknowledge or are will to take some of the feedbacks as something to consider.

No I will not advocate to have your life getting taken and I see some people here being saracstic or not taking this to be a real issue? Some of you people need to think before you post in a thread regarding suicide...I know I've been there and I had a friend who kept bringing up suicide. I got sick and tired of her talking about it until she finally ended her life. She was too young and had a lot going for her. I look back and feel bad about making the ridiculous jokes I did to her.

Ken...you may not have to take this advice but please get help now. We are not professionals nor gurus. Also, there is no easy route in such deathly attempts. You need to love yourself before you love anyone else. Easier said than done...I know but it can be done. I look at life more along the lines as a journey than a destination.

Whoa, that's deep.

I never considered suicide before, so something like that has never before crossed my mind, but that is a very good point.

Quit being a baby Ken, you are fine man. Get needed help and I wish you the best, but sucide isn't the answer.

I haven't met you here on WP before, Ken, so consider this a hello from someone with no preconceptions, bias, or prejudice about you one way or the other.

I know more about suicide than I ever wanted to know. You don't want to know about it, as pointed out above. I rescued a friend from suicide, among other things.

If you are genuinely planning to kill yourself, call a suicide help line or your doctor, or walk into the local ER and tell them that you are planning to kill yourself. You will be admitted and treated, and in the coming weeks you'll see that suicide was not really what you wanted.

If you are not serious about suicide, but have another reason for asking, then mention that reason. Otherwise the post ends up drawing the wrong kind of attention. For instance, I've noticed there are a number of writers on WP. Perhaps you too are a writer and are looking for a realistic or creative way to have a character attempt/commit suicide.

Either way, I wish you well and wouldn't mind getting to know you.

I have tryed talking to proffessials, docs, friends, ect.. Nothing I have tryed has helped. I have tryed looking at things different. Tryed acting and doing thins different. Nothing helps. I know God made me this way and there is nothing I can do about it because everything I have tryed has not worked. I hate God.

I have AS, I would think that since this a site for people with AS, everyone here knows people with AS says what they mean. So if I don't say in a thread I'M ASKING FOR ADVICE it means I'm not asking for advice. I wish people here would stop putting words in my mouth and accept me for who I am. Don't critize my posts, don't offer advice unless I ask for it. Let me rant and get it off my chest or soon I will blow my head off.

I said before and I will say again, I challenge anyone to go through what I have gone through and not feel the way I do.

Who is that question directed to?

KenM: Have you considered ECT (electroconvulsive therapy)? Treatment-resistant depression sometimes responds to this therapy. It is not without side effects but that is true for any therapy. Please do not give up.

This is the Haven; either respond accordingly or don't respond. Please consider this a singular warning to those whose replies were removed from this thread.

Ken, start living for yourself instead of waiting for someone else to come along; I think you might meet more people along the way taking that route, to be honest.


M.

Sorry 'bout that... hadn't noted the forum. Apologies.