Not sure how to trust my doc or any other medical person.

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That is a good way to look at it. I'll try and change my thinking so that I can see it that way and it should be helpful.

As far as the surgery, I was told it does not matter on what was done. My friend who is a nurse said any type of tramatic happening on the body could trigger it. Like surgery. I was never told of that possiblitty when I talked to my doc about it.

One other thing I forgot to mention. When I first came down with diabetes and my sugar levels were high my doc told me once I got the levels down to normal I'd have more energy and all that. I did get my levels down but I don't feel any different. I still have the same ammount of energy and all that. So I feel my doc lied to me about that as well. Just because a number is high all of a sudden I have to take a shot? I have been taking my shot every day but I don't feel any different. I know I'm depressed about other things so maybe that has something to do with it. But I've felt that way for so long I think its normal.

You do realise Excersising is one of the best things you can do for your body? How can you put your body through NOT excersising? Especially since you've got this?

EVERYONE who is unfit is in pain after excersise, and it is the strong minded people who keep at it because they know in the long run, it's very beneficial.

Just out of interest, what do you usually eat? What foods do you like?

If you don't eat vegetables... do you eat fruit?

No, its the morons that keep at it. Because when you are in that much pain after exercise you have to be brain dead to want to keep putting yourself through that pain.

I do like some fruit. Apples, oranges, bananas. But I mainly eat micowave dinners, ceral and milk, and cook small stuff on the stove like burgers or grilled cheese. Sometimes I like to bake pork chops or chicken and rice. But I don't like making that stuff for just one. I don't like most veggies but I do like corn.

That sheds some important light on what's going on.

Sometimes it's necessary to say, okay, I have these feelings, they're what I have - neither wrong nor right, they just are, rejecting them or stuffing them down won't do any good: but, I need to do this other thing that is needed.
So, yes, these are my feelings, and even with them I'm going to go on and do what I need to do.

It can be difficult to do, yet it can be made to happen. "Made' to happen is the key word - it is by choice and strength of will that it is done. Sometimes only by the brute force of one's own will pushing through the other stuff.

My Mom was a Dietitian and her Father had insulin problems, and now she does, she might understand at least a little bit of the "just exactly how many drugs and needles are they wanting to be sticking in my body?" thing.

Somehow, please accept that the insulin itself is not a drug: it is a natural product of people and animals' bodies. Here's some info about that.
From here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_therapy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin






I do not personally understand the place that you are in this, but I understand that it is a difficult place to be.


Ohh, those are waaaaay high in salt, that's something to keep an eye on.

You know oxygen is classified as a drug, too, right? So are you going to stop breathing?
Insulin is something your body produces naturally. When you have type 2 diabetes, you can't use it as efficiently, so you need to replace some of it. Not taking something you need is really closer "doing drugs" than taking it would be. Have you ever encountered somebody having a diabetic emergency (extreme hypoglycemia)? They seem like they must be drunk or schizophrenic, because their brain is starving-- literally.

On the exercise thing.. how about just walking?
I've gotten into much better shape since I started walking my dog regularly.. The dog greatly appreciates it, too.

I am on my feet all day at work. I don't mind walking but after being on my feet all day the last thing I want to do is be on my feet when I don't have to.

How is someone a moron for making an effort to have a healthy body? The reason why your body is in pain is because you have been neglecting it by not excersising and allowing yourself to get unfit. Have you ever heard of the phrase "No pain, no gain?"

Those foods certainly won't help you with your condition, all carbs(sugar) and fat.



Do you break a sweat at work? You have to break a sweat for anything to really count as excersise, not a huge one, just enough to get your heart pumping. And it seems, looking at the content of this thread, you DO have to, because you've developed this self inflicted condition.

Instead of being mad at Doctors because they can't pick up the pieces and cure you, you need to realise that you have these things wrong with you, and make an effort to do something about them - you are your own worst enemy if you keep fighting people who are trying to help you.

You do something, it hurts. You keep doing it, it keeps hurting. Only a moron would continue to exercise when when you do it it HURTS your body and you are in pysical pain. "gee I love the idea of being in pain all the time, I'm gonna keep doing it." Thats why I can't understand all the people that exercise all the fricking time, to me its like they enjoy being in pain.

Also to me I look at my doc as I look at a mechanic for my car. When something is wrong with my car I bring it to my mechanic and ask him to fix it and he does and I pay him. When something is wrong with me I want to go to my doc and ask me to fix me. Not put me on a program of taking drugs for the rest of my life, but to fix me so I don't have to go back to him for awhile. I also don't get preached to when I go to my mechanic. My doc preaches to me and thinks he is better then me because he is trying to run my life. I just want to go to my doc, tell him whats wrong and then he fixes it. I don't want him in my life all the time. Since the doc caused my diebetes from the surgery they want to see me like every 2 months now so they can control me.

I did try and eat the foods my doc recommended. I hated them and was totally miserable. I would rather eat what I like and enjoy my shorter life then live for a long time and hate it because I could not eat anything that I really liked.

I think that if you don't maintain your car, your mechanic will probably lecture you too.. If you never change the oil, let it run out of gas all the time, drive with the emergency brake on, and torture the transmission, your car will be constantly failing.
A doctor can't just "fix" you. (Heh, well, unless that was the surgery..)
If it's true about the surgery "causing" the diabetes, it was because you were borderline diabetic, so any shock to your system could have caused it. A car accident, getting the flu, food poisoning, moving, any major life change.. Unless there was something specific about the surgery that caused it, it wasn't the surgery itself, but the stress on your body caused by the surgery, so it would have been fairly certain to happen eventually anyway. Life stresses your body.

People can't just "cure" you at the drop of a hat, what do you expect? Do you have any idea whatsover about what is doable and what isn't? PEOPLE ARE NOT MAGIC.

It's like a fat person sueing mc donalds the way you're going on. You don't have any proof that that is what caused the diabetes. You just want something to blame other than yourself.

If you don't want to tke the drugs to stay healthy, don't do it. Don't see your doctor, don't eat good food and don't excersise. But DON'T complain on here and expect sympathy.

Your misery is your own fault. No one else's.


Take some personal responsibility and change.


Your body and mind are not like a car. The doctor gives you advice and medication when necessary, but only you can repair and maintain yourself.


Nobody else can to do it for you.

My point about the surgery causing me to to get diatbetes is the fact that I feel my doc knew I was boderline. But He did not tell me the risk of having me get diatbetes do the the surgery. If he told me the risk upfront I probibly would have never gone through with the surgery. But he choose not to tell me knowing he could get me on more drugs if he made me dietbetic. I had no choice. My other docs told me for YEARS about me being borderline. But I did not change anything about my lifestyle. Then right after the surgery I come down with it.

I guess your doctor thought why put off the inevitable?

And you are still refusing to do so. You've seen what this choice has done to you thus far, if you continue you will get worse.