help with suicidal thoughts

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does anyone know any good stratagees or coping mechanism or meds for when they have suicidal thoughts?

Most SSRI's (prozac, seroxat, lexapro and I shall include st johns wort too) increase suicidal thoughts so are not recomended and seeing as thats all most Drs perscribe I dont want to bother going to the dr, I think they would just give me a hard time and make it all worse (as well as telling my social worker who would then give me a hard time also).

Has anyone read any good books on getting rid of suicidal thoughts or found any good distraction methods?

Ive been feeling very suicidal the last couple of years since haveing problems with my childrens mental health team and social services as I cant cope with their interferance and criticism and the stress of making them displeased. The last month or two Ive just been really suicidal and think about it all the time. I find it hard to imagine how things could be better or ok as all i can remember is things being crap. I attempted suicide several times in my teens and if I had known how bad my life would be I would have made sure I had succeeded as it would have been better not to have gone through all I have and it would have been better to do it before I had kids as now having children makes it a worse thing to do.

anyway, any suggestions wellcome

I think I shall try st johns wort despite my misgivings about it working on serotonin (Ive had bad reactions to SSRI's in the past). I can get it in the health food shop thus avoiding the dr and Ive read on the net that some researchers have found it particularly benificial with ASD and ADHD so it might be ok. Im at my mums at the moment so if it does make the suicidal ideation worse she is here to keep a check on me. I will let you know if its any good.

I've tried st johns wart and it never really work for me. It raised my blood pressure quite a bit, but I was in a state on constant anxiety, which only my meds was able to control. If I were to take it (sjw) now the effect may be different. Taking flax seed oil according to some can help with depression (but it probably needs to be taken for a few months), and you can try taking 5HTP.

I tried SSRI's once; they made me ill immediately. You could ask about the older drugs; tricyclics and all that if you want; I think they even do an injection form of some drugs (risperidol comes to mind, but I could be wrong).

Exercise can be great. I'm sure you've heard all that before, but I know from my own experience with depression, it really does help you clear your head, or at least make you too tired to sit awake worrying. I guess if you don't have the time, that can be tricky.

Is there anything in particular in your life that is bothering you right now?

I too had a very, very bad time with SSRI's, St John's Wart had no noticeable effect.

Sound's like your having a very difficult time of it.

When I had these thought's in the past I always thought of the effect my action would have on my kid's, how they would feel if I wasn't there.

This always worked for me, I so hope you find a way that works for you and makes you feel better.

Do you drink alcohol at all? That can stop the anti-depressants working.

Lotusblossom...

Negative thoughts are, I think, at times all part of our AS condition.

As long as they remain purely as thoughts, and don't become actions, then sadly I feel that it's just something that has to be accepted. I wish I could find a way to change that, but sometimes accepting how you feel is enough. Accept how your situation makes you feel now, but concentrate (like you can with your essay) on something else.
Try and put yourself in a better, more positive place. I do know how difficult that can be...

I so wish I could be more constructive

Oh, and from what you say, it seems that a lot of this pressure is caused by external forces.

Don't let some collection of NT f****** make you feel like this!

Sometimes eating fish improves my mood.

lotusblossom wrote:
"I attempted suicide several times in my teens and if I had known how bad my life would be I would have made sure I had succeeded as it would have been better not to have gone through all I have..."

Yeah, my major regret in life is that I did not kill myself a long, long time ago. But I am still here, so what to do about? Well, I have made something of a pact with myself. I am not going to kill myself any time soon, but if I develop a potentially fatal illness, disease, or condition, I will refuse treatment. You see, on the one hand I am not an impulsive person, and killing myself would involve a lot of planning and preparation. On the other hand, I have problems with executive functioning which makes planning and organisation difficult. This pact of mine gives me time to slowly organise things. Diagnosis of a potentially fatal illness or condition could provide the final impetus, as well as a deadline (pardon the pun).

In the meantime, I have a part-time job which is okay, and pays just enough to cover the basic expenses. The rest of the time I try to work on my interest (although that is not going well). In many respects I am just "waitin' around to die" < http://lyrics.wikia.com/Townes_Van_Zand ... und_To_Die >. I would start drinking and smoking, but I can not afford it. Sometimes I think I should just pick an age to die, and work towards that.

(I recognise that my post is not uplifting, but in a strange way this is what works for me.)

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