Aspies are upsetting me (I'm an aspie)

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In almost all the forums I looked into I see extreme negativity and abuse to you body and mind.
This is getting me so mad..... All of those negative aspies need to change there way of thinking. You don't need to go out and party or socially interact if you don't want to, but don't beat yourself down for doing that, that's all I'm reading in these forums: drinking makes me happy so do what makes you happy..... Abuse your body and lose your mind? become an alchoolic because a disorder that can cause good is beating you up! In my resent topics I've posted I asked are all aspies artist (in any form) I don't know why I asked a bunch of negative minded aspies this question I should just tell them. ALL ASPIES ARE ARTIST! Another post I looked at was someone saying there intrests will lead them no where, well guess what FALSE your interests is what you are, if you like playing video games hours on end (me then do it and find a solution that would get your love..passion into a money making career, if you enjoy watching T.V. Hours on end sit back and think what careers fits my intrests instead of thinking I'm going no where with my likings.
I'm even convinced aspengers is fake, because I want to call it the artist struggle. Everyone here is struggling no? We have to fight this "disorder" to accomplish what we love and if we do we will become famous in our friendly attributes. Just think if we didn't have aspengers what would we be? Normal. That's is we would be normal the people who go out get laid every night drink till they passout, run around making fun of people that are lost. I think what we have is a power. Wait. I know what we have is a power. If we fight our problems instead of them jumping on us you could do so much.
A famous artsist said "all people are artist it's whether we remain them as we grow up"
everybody here has the ability to do great things, it's just we have aspengers because otherwise it would be to easy:P nothing comes easy gotta work for it

P.S. I typed this on my phone so excuse the errors if there are any

This is really confusing.

well, people who seek out support are usually the ones who are most negative, therefore a large degree of the people here, as well as other support forums, express some negativity. I am not exactly sure what you are trying to say or accomplish here though with this post. I guess your aim is to just motivate people?

Unfortunatly AS is not fake, and everyone does not have the same positive outlook as you do.

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I think the OP is trying to say that he is annoyed with the negitivity he has experienced thusfar. Also that he is annoyed with the idea 'I can't do this, I have.........'. I may be incorrect, if I am the OP can correct me if I understood incorrectly.

So what I got from the OP is that apparently we're all artists, even the ones with no artistic skill and we all have to be less negative.

Super.

No, I think by artist he means a person who can do something to a great degree. It may seem that even eloquently written programs are works of art, no?

I appreciate your desire to motivate, uplift and inspire CiL, but I hear in your pep talk the voice of a traveler only a little way down his road.

Is the Aspie life experience the prototypical Artist's Life? Well, the sensitivities that drive one toward a life of creative self-expression often do involve the ability to see the world slightly askew from the norm, which can cause feelings of alienation and disaffection. However, judging solely from the tone of their work, Norman Rockwell, Robert Frost and Carl Sandberg don't seem to have suffered terribly from defeatist attitudes or chronic depression, so I'd have to say no, not all creative minds suffer from what Todd Rundgren calls "The Ever Popular Tortured Artist Effect". Nor does having AS automatically grant a person any special artistic talent - I consider myself an artist in several media, but I wasn't 'born with a gift' in any of them. Actually, I think most of us on the spectrum have to work harder to develop our abilities, because grace and dexterity don't come standard with our brains.

As far as the negative expressions - first - that's kinda why WrongPlanet exists, for us to share our griefs and issues and commiserate with others who have the same problems slogging their way through life. When we look around us at all the Non-Autistic folks in the room, we can't help but feel like freaks, because often, we simply don't have the ability to function at their level in many arenas of everyday life, and those Non-Autistic people are usually not very understanding or compassionate about our inabilities.

I agree with you that having AS is not some death sentence that should cause a person to just throw their hands in the air and give up on life altogether. But after living with it year in and year out for over five decades now, I also refuse to be a Pollyanna about it, either. Its a hard life, seeing the world through glasses of a completely different prescription than the rest of the world, not because we see it all wrong - I believe we actually see things more rationally than NAs most of the time, but there are a lot more of them than there are of us, so usually our views simply don't matter, and if you continue to express those views, you're begging for a kick in the teeth.

And that, to steal a phrase from Frank Zappa, is the Crux of the Biscuit: Seeing the world differently is a gift, no doubt - I believe that wholeheartedly, but that gift comes with a tremendously dear price tag. Because no matter how good you are at what you do, no matter how dedicated you are to doing something better than anybody has ever done it before, no matter how much blood and sweat and sacrifice you wring from yourself, simply for the satisfaction at the end of the day of being able to proudly say to yourself "I did that, and damn, it's good!" For all of that, you will still be bullied, you will still be persecuted, you will be fired, you will be ridiculed, your efforts greeted with indifferent shrugs or sneers of contempt - because you are still different, and to the human majority on this planet, different = inferior; different = suspicious; different = broken or defective.

So while I would never want anyone to believe that having an ASD means nothing good will ever happen for you, I won't blow sunshine up their skirts by telling them that we're all some charmed magical race of Elvish artists, destined for greatness and success. Temple Grandin's done quite well for herself, but then she had a dedicated full-time nanny as a child, most of us don't have access to those kinds of resources. If speculations on the Aspiness of Einstein or Bill Gates, et al mean anything, people with AS may have amazing success stories all the time, but those conjectures remain to be proven. In any case, depression and a certain surly, curmudgeonly negativity are par for the course in this Aspie life, and I can't fault anyone for feeling that way. If we didn't get it out once in awhile we might do far worse to ourselves than just wallow in our misery and whine.

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I actually can see where you are coming from with this, but the thing is is that there is a whole lot of negativity in this world, not just from us. I do agree with a bit of what you are saying and you're right in a lot of ways. Negativity doesn't help anyone, and could quite possibly just make the troubles at hand worse than it really needs to be, but there is more depth to that negative output then what most people can see. With a spectrum like this, the situations vary greatly with each different individual. This also includes the issues not caused by autism, but by the other negativities you experience and go through that makes life all the more unfair.

Nobody can just become happy little dandilions, it takes more than being told over and over again, but you know, I don't think we like it any better than you do. Personally, I hate it when I think of myself as a bad person, and twitch when I have to say one good thing about myself, and have the desire to bleed when I feel as if everything is a lie to me, but that is my problem. You are the only one who can heal what your mind has been suffering, because nobody else can do it for you.

This is a support site, with a forum dedicated for those who need someone to at least listen to them. Being on the spectrum can mean so many different things to people that simply saying to be positive won't cut it. We all are not artists, but there are other qualities to people that makes them who they are. Not all autistics can accept their fate the way that you can, it takes much more. It's just another part of life's obstacles that we have to learn, to accept who we are and how we can improve our negative way of thinking in some way where we all can be naturally happy in our own state of mind. I'm still trying to learn this too.

I have AS.
It doesn't mean that nothing good will happen, but it also doesn't mean that I am a part of some race that is automatically destined for success.

I agree with the OP to a certain extent. Going on about how bad everything is, how crap your AS is, etc, isn't exactly helping anything, is it? Just that negativity alone can stop you from achieving what you wanna do, because you start actually believing it more and more.

How many people do you know of, Aspie or not, who achieved anything by going on about how they can't do it? The runner who won by calling himself a loser? The multimillionaire entrepreneur who went on about his business would fail? Neither of those people exist, and not because they couldn't do it, but because they didn't bother trying because they had ALREADY GIVEN UP.

The moment you go on about how much of a failure you are is the moment it becomes true. No sooner.