I am a sick mysoginist jealous of women.

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21 Aug 2010, 3:05 pm

I feel really jealous of women who have had sex with lots of people (or who i imagine may have). I always feel that they have power over me and that they are stronger than me and i am weak and childish to them. I was reading the thread in the womens forum about slu*ty aspie women who were all saying i had sex with loads of people, and i just felt so down and stupid. I dont even like having sex itself that much (without love), i just have this bizzare obsession that i am weak and vunrebale and looked down on by such women. I just wish i could go into a brothel with 40 or 50 women and have sex with them all, just penetrate them all quicky once in turn, so i could walk out and say "phew, now no women can make me feel stupid and weaker".
I know thats a sick and wrong way to think but i cant help it. I'm not a virgin and have much more experience than a lot of my male aspie friends, but i just feel like its never enough. because of anxietes i had a lot of missed opportunites and i feel rage at all the offers i missed, when i read about someone having lots of partners i think "i should have been like that if i wasnt so pathetic". anyway i know it is bizzare but there it is its out.
its not moral. i would have sex with anyone and have been amoral in trying to get casual sex myself. its just jealousy and a feeling of inferior.



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21 Aug 2010, 3:21 pm

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21 Aug 2010, 3:44 pm

F u c k you. You think women are stronger than you? How small are you? 5'4? 110 lbs?? Do you have to worry about being raped? Did you have to put up with being groped and shoved around as a teen? Did you? Tell me?

Try being in my body, or ANY other average woman's and then come back to me and spew that crap.

You are indeed a sick misogynist, and you deserve to die.


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21 Aug 2010, 3:45 pm

PS. DON'T call yourself a male.

Real men do not behave like you.


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21 Aug 2010, 3:49 pm

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F u c k you. You think women are stronger than you? How small are you? 5'4? 110 lbs?? Do you have to worry about being raped? Did you have to put up with being groped and shoved around as a teen? Did you? Tell me?

Try being in my body, or ANY other average woman's and then come back to me and spew that crap.

You are indeed a sick misogynist, and you deserve to die.


I have Asperger's Syndrome. Other peoples experiences mean nothing to me. Of course I have been shoved around and bullied by people, would i be so messed up and horrible if i wasnt. anyway im only 5.5. or so and very underweight but i did mean mental strength.



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21 Aug 2010, 3:52 pm

I was the same way for most of my sexually-active life - I don't think what you're saying sounds that strange. I wouldn't consider misogynistic, but I've always envied women for their ability to have male attention on tap. Any woman can have sex any time she wants - it's all about what kind of man she's willing to tolerate. One of my biggest fears was revenge f*****g - that a woman I loved would have sex with someone she didn't care about, just to get back at me, because I can't compete with that.

The thing is, looking back on my life, I can't say I've had problems getting sex - the problem was more that I've always seen sex as a way to love, and I've always wanted to love and think highly of the women I slept with, even if it was outside of a relationship. But when the women I loved had sex without caring for the men in question, it drove me insane. It wasn't jealousy, it was much worse, it was a mixture of extreme envy and even more extreme fear. For me a woman who can have sex without feelings is no longer a women, she's just a thing, and the sex she's having seems nihilistic.

A lot of this changed a few years ago when I had an encounter with a complete stranger whom I felt nothing for, and realized just how empty sex without feelings really is. I can't say that I still envy anyone who screws around. I know a lot of promiscuous people - none of them are really happy, especially the women.



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21 Aug 2010, 3:52 pm

Mutate wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
F u c k you. You think women are stronger than you? How small are you? 5'4? 110 lbs?? Do you have to worry about being raped? Did you have to put up with being groped and shoved around as a teen? Did you? Tell me?

Try being in my body, or ANY other average woman's and then come back to me and spew that crap.

You are indeed a sick misogynist, and you deserve to die.


I have Asperger's Syndrome. Other peoples experiences mean nothing to me. Of course I have been shoved around and bullied by people, would i be so messed up and horrible if i wasnt. anyway im only 5.5. or so and very underweight but i did mean mental strength.


DO NOT EVER use your Aspergers as an excuse for your behavior.



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21 Aug 2010, 4:11 pm

Im so sorry and sad that you feel like that.

Ive never looked down on you or felt superior.

Im sorry if I ever did anything to make you feel bad.

I want you to be happy.



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21 Aug 2010, 4:14 pm

No lotusblossom, i have always felt that way since i was 15 or so, not with you.



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21 Aug 2010, 4:16 pm

Xenu wrote:

DO NOT EVER use your Aspergers as an excuse for your behavior.


THANK YOU! I know so many Asperger/autistic people who are kind, caring and upright people who would never behave like this dude.


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21 Aug 2010, 4:20 pm

mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
Xenu wrote:

DO NOT EVER use your Aspergers as an excuse for your behavior.


THANK YOU! I know so many Asperger/autistic people who are kind, caring and upright people who would never behave like this dude.

he has not done anything!! !

He has just made a thread about how down and sad he is about his lack of sexual experience.

People are alloud to express their feelings, it does not make them horrible people.



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21 Aug 2010, 4:29 pm

I don't see what's so wrong about what he's saying. He's just saying he feels inferior. Males are given a standard of being expected to get laid a lot; it shouldn't been too surprising that a guy could end up feeling inadequate (since societal standards are like that -- you can never be good enough; it's supposed to control/coerce you through shame).

Women have the exact opposite standard to deal with -- too much equals "slut." So it's easy to see the other side "doing well," but not realize that (or feel like) society is telling them they're actually "failing" for doing that. Maybe it doesn't all perfectly balance out, but I think his point of view is possible to understand, and I don't see anything evil about it.



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21 Aug 2010, 4:33 pm

Yeah...I'm sorry I blew up.

It's a sensitive subject with me.


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21 Aug 2010, 4:37 pm

Please don't be so hard on Mutate. He's trying to sort things out.

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I dont even like having sex itself that much (without love)

I think that's something a lot of women are looking for and would value, men have a reputation for being out for the easy lay.

It's to be expected that a person who does not have a firm handle on these social interactions would be frustrated and have negative feelings.
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I know thats a sick and wrong way to think but i cant help it.


Putting Mutate down as if he has actually done any of those things, or would really do them if it became possible, is counterproductive and unhelpful. I vaguely remember in the book, One Flew Over the Cukoo's nest, there was a large powerfully built character called the Chief, who described the central character Randle as bigger than himself although he was smaller, because he had greater inner strength. I think that's the kind of thing he's talking about, the inner power rather than outside appearance. A relatively small, weak woman, does have the power to make a man feel inadequate and pathetic, or a man may feel so with her even though she is not actually perceiving him that way.

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DO NOT EVER use your Aspergers as an excuse for your behavior.

I don't believe it was offered as an excuse, but as an explanation. We all know how that can affect one's perceptions of what is going on and not usually in a useful way! I found that I had a hard time as a young woman with (undiagnosed) Asperger's drawing boundaries and saying no, because I had come to rely on other people having a better idea than I did in general about what was appropriate. So I got a little more experience than I really needed. People who brag about their many encounters probably have been dealing with that same issue of boundaries and appropriateness.

Over the years I have always tried to treat fellow humans, including men, in a non-hurtful way. I have not always succeeded. Some of the times I failed is because of my own Asperger's factoring in.

Mutate, remember that what people say they have done is not always what they have really done! Remember that what is good for someone else is all wrong for you, sometimes. Sexual conquest is not what defines the kind of relationship most of us want. Be patient. You can always lie about your experiences like everyone else does! :) I suspect you will come across someone who you like as a friend first, before sex comes into it, and that will be a more rewarding experience for you--even if it is not permanent, you will know what it is like and what to look for. And expect it to take time. Most of us who are in relationships took rather longer than average to find them.



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21 Aug 2010, 4:38 pm

mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
F u c k you. You think women are stronger than you? How small are you? 5'4? 110 lbs?? Do you have to worry about being raped? Did you have to put up with being groped and shoved around as a teen? Did you? Tell me?

Try being in my body, or ANY other average woman's and then come back to me and spew that crap.

You are indeed a sick misogynist, and you deserve to die.



That diatribe is uglier than anything the OP said. That's such a vicious and mean spirited attack I'm embarrassed to have read it and you should be ashamed to have said it. :oops:


Words like that are as much an assault as a physical beating. To rip and tear at a person's spirit like that, verbally spit on them and wish them death is a form of rape.


No one deserves to be intentionally humiliated and belittled with that kind of vehemence and hatred. NO ONE.



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21 Aug 2010, 4:53 pm

Willard wrote:
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F u c k you. You think women are stronger than you? How small are you? 5'4? 110 lbs?? Do you have to worry about being raped? Did you have to put up with being groped and shoved around as a teen? Did you? Tell me?

Try being in my body, or ANY other average woman's and then come back to me and spew that crap.

You are indeed a sick misogynist, and you deserve to die.


That diatribe is uglier than anything the OP said. That's such a vicious and mean spirited attack I'm embarrassed to have read it and you should be ashamed to have said it. :oops:

Words like that are as much an assault as a physical beating. To rip and tear at a person's spirit like that, verbally spit on them and wish them death is a form of rape.

No one deserves to be intentionally humiliated and belittled with that kind of vehemence and hatred. NO ONE.

Willard, she did apologize a couple of posts later!


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