withdrawing & becoming unreal
nick007
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Most all my life I felt like I didn't belong. I felt like I've been living in some kind of fake fantasy world. People & things never fully connected with me & nothing felt "real" to me; kind of like I'm living on a StarTrek holodeck or something. Things were empty & meaningless to me. The only time when things ever really clicked & felt real to me was when I was in a relationship with someone years ago. It was like a switch went off in my brain & a tidal-wave of emotions hit me. I was like a stereotypical Schizoid before her & suddenly became an EMO with Borderline Personality. Things fell apart because I had problems dealing with all my emotions & lots of other rezones. Sense it ended; I've been really hung-up on it & been incapable of letting go because I've been paranoid of going back to the way I used to be before her. I don't want to become empty, cold & dead inside like I was before. The only way I can let go & keep feeling real & alive is if I have a connection with someone else. I have horrible luck trying to find someone & it keeps stressing me out & cases me lots of problems; I will probably never have another contention with anyone. Being unable to let go of things has been causing me lots of problems because I sometimes view/stalk her pro on a site & give myself anxiety attacks & cause stomach problems. I'm sure people are getting tired of me talking about this stuff obsessively. The worst thou is that I sometimes think about trying to contact her. I know if I did that I would only hurt her & I would rather die than hurt her. I've been resisting so far but I'm paranoid that I will slip eventually. The only ways I can be sure that I won't is if I find someone else witch is virtually impossible & I'm also worried deep down that I would hurt someone else; I kill myself before I slip; or I let go of everything & go back to the way I was before of being empty & unreal. I'm choosing the ladder. I need to retreat inside myself & build impenetrable walls in order to avoid harm. It was like that for 20 years of my life & i was better off.
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Yes, and that is a very real and huge dilemma for many of us. We stumble along alone as best we can when we must, but then sometimes I can barely find the willingness or even the desire to get on up and out of my chair.
Do you ever get up to Shreveport? My wife and I are not far from there.
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I swear when I was like 4- I thought everything the only consciousness was mine and that everyone else just existed.
Though yes, love opens up a whole new bag of worms. It is no coincidence that the first year I attempted suicide was also the year I first loved and in the following 12 years I've only gotten worse morally, again thanks to love. I do "stalk" my ex's so to speak. The one I hurt and can't blame anyone but myself for her suffering I hope with all my heart she finds someone better than me. It was only this year that she ended a 3 year silence with me and today she even told me "everyone makes mistakes" like she doesn't give a damn about what I did to her, I've lived with the guilt for almost 4 years and I'll never forgive myself because I was an as*hole and I should have known to communicate better but I guess it's better that I have ruined it. It was a long distance relationship and I'd rather carry the guilt than her when it reached it's inevitable demise. On the other hand the ones that f****d me over I WANT TO KNOW when they get cheated on, I want to see them suffer the same fate they handed me, I want them to lose their jobs and worry about how they're going to feed themselves without my help, I want to know that they look back and regret what they've done to me and wish they could go back and make it right and I want to assure them that they can't.
There's no going back from love though. Try as I did to get so numb that I wouldn't give a damn about anyone in middle school nothing worked. These feelings will stay with you until you fix what's causing them.
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nick007
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I've been there a couple times but I mostly go around Houma & Thibodaux areas for shopping & stuff. I don't drive so transportation is kind of a problem for me.
Though yes, love opens up a whole new bag of worms. It is no coincidence that the first year I attempted suicide was also the year I first loved and in the following 12 years I've only gotten worse morally, again thanks to love. I do "stalk" my ex's so to speak. The one I hurt and can't blame anyone but myself for her suffering I hope with all my heart she finds someone better than me. It was only this year that she ended a 3 year silence with me and today she even told me "everyone makes mistakes" like she doesn't give a damn about what I did to her, I've lived with the guilt for almost 4 years and I'll never forgive myself because I was an as*hole and I should have known to communicate better but I guess it's better that I have ruined it. It was a long distance relationship and I'd rather carry the guilt than her when it reached it's inevitable demise. On the other hand the ones that f**** me over I WANT TO KNOW when they get cheated on, I want to see them suffer the same fate they handed me, I want them to lose their jobs and worry about how they're going to feed themselves without my help, I want to know that they look back and regret what they've done to me and wish they could go back and make it right and I want to assure them that they can't.
There's no going back from love though. Try as I did to get so numb that I wouldn't give a damn about anyone in middle school nothing worked. These feelings will stay with you until you fix what's causing them.
Umm Were you 8 when you fell in love? Your pro says your 20 & you said the fallowing 12 years
I've been feeling like I'm the only one dealing with these exact issues here. I know there's other people here screwed-up on relationships but the whole stalking after losing contact thing seemed unique to me & scares me. The absolute last thing I want to ever do is hurt her & the 2nd last is hurt someone else. I think you may be rite about the feelings staying with me. I was seeing psychs for 5 years after & the professionals didn't/couldn't help. I doubt there is a way I can fix the cause short of shorting out the controls of a hot-tub with alcohol & going back in time. I almost wish I killed myself when I had that breakdown after. I know I learned a lot sense then, grew as a person & became more insightful & stable but I feel completely out of place & like I'm not meant to be here. It's like I'm in another dimension & I'm screwing up the way things are supposed to be by simply being here & the more contact I have with others & the more I try to find a connection; the more things here change from the way they were meant to be. I'm not sure if that makes much sense I'm not suicidal & I'm not planning to kill myself but I don't feel alive. I wonder if there's a way I could give myself some kind of amnesia or something like Jim Carrey in the movie Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind; hypnotism perhaps but that seems flaky
So did I, and I still retain doubts about the full reality of all people.
Whenever I've had a significant other I'd felt more in touch with the world and far more motivated in general. I live with my roommate. My roommate is my ex of a 9-month live-in relationship. I cannot move out. I've tried, and I simply can't imagine it . . . as though a major part of the planet were quaking away into nothingness.
As for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? Yes, I'd do it with no regret in a heartbeat.
nick007
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I know what you mean.. reality becomes distorted. Although I suppose reality is always distorted to the current social perception. But reality becomes distorted from the social norm.
It seems a little young to me. I didn't have a relationship till I was about 20. I'm waaay behind[/quote
I had my first relationship at 19. And in regards to your post, I understand, I find it almost impossible to connect to everything too and it's so hard letting go and moving on. I continually think myself ridiculous regarding how hung up I get for so many years on one person, often a person I've never even gotten so far as to be in a relationship with.
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We often do not know that you are thinking about us. When you pull away, we assume you do not care. This is what happened to me, when the man that I love who has AS stopped talking to me, I thought he didn't care. He has come in and out of my life for the past year. I have learned that he does care and that he does think about me. That was very important for me to know.
I am able to be more patient with him, and I hope that this time he will stay in my life. There are times I think he has stayed away because he knows he has hurt me and other times I feel like he is afraid that I will hurt him. If there is someone that you want to reach out to, I think that you should do so. The person may tell you that they don't want to hear from you, but they may also be really glad that you did.
Hey i know what you are going through, im right there myself. I have Borderline Personality disorder and have been depersonlized/derealized for years without even knowing it. I would be at places and see the layout, the color, the ppl there but it just felt devoid of any emotion/spontaneousness...what i'd imagine a room to be like if all the air got sucked out of it and became airtight. I thought something was wrong but I bulled my way thru it because I knew becoming depressed would just end my active life .....I didnt seek help and I could not talk to my parents....I had also pondered that maybe all people felt this way and maybe I was just weak/retarted or had a mental illness (which BPD is) for years i didnt even feel like I had a self, that i was just a body and a consciousness just moving about automatically. I had friends until 6th grade and I felt 'alive' to that point, but from 7-10th I was pretty much depersonalized/derealized the whole time....and only I made true friends (not superficial ones who i didnt connect with) in 10th-12th did I feel that rush of emotions and feeling REAL again...thats when I realized I had a serious psychological problem. I went to college from age 18-now and was sucessful in establishing friendships and had a short relationship lasting 5 months...and that 2 year period I felt ALIVE and that life had vibrancy and emotions attatched with it. When that girl and a few others broke my heart I my Borderline Personality Disorder came bursting out like a hidden demon and demolished all relationships I had painstakingly constructed.
, I lashed out at ppl, used drugs and drank a lot, hid myself away in my apt for days and stopped all contact with some ppl. Now that ive destroyed those bridges I am falling back into feeling like nothing is real anymore- the only thing that brings me out of this fog is being physically present with a friend or my family- or by being on this forum or texting a friend because im communicating with ppl who can relate or care about me
Most of my teen years seem like a fog, I can remember what events happend and what I did but not many specific memories or meaningful ones- it was like I was there but nothing registered with me the whole time.
You arnt alone, things can get better.
I can definitely relate to these stories. Relationships bring out the best and worst in me, with regard to emotional and psychological well being. I get very paranoid about the motives of my partner after being in a 4 year relationship with a jerk who lied to me all the time. He would work hard to make me believe things then tell me later he was lying, like it was all a joke. Current partner, unfortunately, has to deal with that somewhat. I don't trust anything she says, but dammit, I love her to death. I feel like she loves me a lot, too, but I'm very intense for her and I'm definitely awkward. I also still question her motives... I can't accurately interpret body language, but I can perceive energy, if that makes sense. Sometimes I'm right, most times I'm wrong. When I'm alone, I just tick away the time. Lots of blurry time, no memories of anything special. That was my teen years. Relationships definitely stand out. I want to better myself. I feel like I have a reason for being here. To love. I love intensely. I'm sad by the idea that I might be destined to spend a life without love (platonic or romantic) due to my ability to appropriately relate to people. I feel so disjointed and discouraged, just seems like the dull boring life is simpler, as the only one you have to deal with is yourself.