i dont have aspergers...

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11 Mar 2012, 1:01 pm

I went to a therapist today specializing in aspergers, and she told me she's very confident that I don't have it...

Darn. I'm actually really disappointed. I thought aspergers would explain why I'm such a socially awkward loser.

I guess I'm just weird for no reason. :(



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11 Mar 2012, 1:26 pm

blahblah123 wrote:
I went to a therapist today specializing in aspergers, and she told me she's very confident that I don't have it...

Darn. I'm actually really disappointed. I thought aspergers would explain why I'm such a socially awkward loser.

I guess I'm just weird for no reason. :(


What was her arguments?



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11 Mar 2012, 2:44 pm

Did she give any diagnoses :?: All the so-called autism/AS experts I've seen believed I had 10+ other things instead of AS. I fit most all the typical Aspie weaknesses & quirks & the typical Aspie issues & differences but they said I communicated too well verbally & seemed too intelligent to have As or anything on the autism spectrum which of course is very wrong sense Aspie tend to be good with words & are more intelligent. My point is that it is possible for so-called "experts" to get it wrong. You should keep an open mind thou & not automatically dismiss the possibility that you may not have it. Look up the other diagnoses if she gave you any & really consider them


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11 Mar 2012, 5:41 pm

I don't think there's such thing as weird for no reason.



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11 Mar 2012, 8:52 pm

Ok, how did she justify that determination? And how long did it take her to reach that conclusion?

If it took 5 minutes, you got a bogus assessment. If it's because "you don't look ret*d" you got a bogus assessment. If this person has never seen an ASD patient over the age of 9, then you probably got a bogus assessment.

Maybe you're young, but just because someone says that they know what they're doing doesn't necessarily mean that they know what they're doing.



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11 Mar 2012, 8:55 pm

That's what my doctor thought...he didn't think I had Asperger's Syndrome but my psychiatrist said I may have it. They're supposed to do proper testing, it's not just a matter of looking at you and asking one or two questions....and I think the only person qualified to give a diagnosis is a psychologist. Is your therapist a psychologist? The only reason I haven't gotten tested is because I can't afford a psychologist and it's too expensive for me.



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11 Mar 2012, 11:51 pm

What were her reasons for you not having it?

You can have poor social skills and not have AS. I think those people slip through the cracks because AS is the closest match for their problems but there is no label for that condition but there will be in the new DSM which will be social communication disorder.



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12 Mar 2012, 9:23 pm

League_Girl wrote:
What were her reasons for you not having it?

You can have poor social skills and not have AS. I think those people slip through the cracks because AS is the closest match for their problems but there is no label for that condition but there will be in the new DSM which will be social communication disorder.



She said I don't have aspergers because I can read nonverbal cues, I think about how my actions affect others, and I generally know how to respond in social situations.

But I pretty much have every other aspergers trait...



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12 Mar 2012, 9:32 pm

I don't have every single Aspergers trait.

My psychologist told me that I didn't, but I still have it.

Maybe find someone else to diagnose?



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12 Mar 2012, 9:34 pm

blahblah123 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
What were her reasons for you not having it?

You can have poor social skills and not have AS. I think those people slip through the cracks because AS is the closest match for their problems but there is no label for that condition but there will be in the new DSM which will be social communication disorder.



She said I don't have aspergers because I can read nonverbal cues, I think about how my actions affect others, and I generally know how to respond in social situations.

But I pretty much have every other aspergers trait...

Did you have problems with that when you were little? Some Aspies can learn them & adapt


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12 Mar 2012, 10:31 pm

I had terrible social skills when I was younger, but I've in a sense, "outsmarted" that problem of my life. I still have sensory issues, obsessions, and executive functioning issues, the latter being the next problem I'm working on.
"I'm just weird that way," is my rallying cry. :P
I saw a neuropsychologist who also doesn't believe I'm on the spectrum. This was after two days of extensive testing, so I don't instantly think she's full of crap. However, I still feel a kinship with people on the spectrum, and thus, I post here. I know my friends don't want to hear me go on and on and on about my interests or ideas, so it's a relief when I can do so with an aspie. Hell, I remember having a detailed, long conversation with an aspie I know in person about The Cosby Show. It was a HUGE release! :D


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13 Mar 2012, 2:34 am

If life has taught me anything, it is that so-called medical specialists are only humans who make lots of errors. Back in the day, a general practicioner misdiagnosed my appendicitis as a bad case of flatulence. Two days later, I woke up in a hospital after an emergency surgery, because my appendix had ruptured :roll:

Lesson learned. Always get a second opinion if you think that your doctor has no clue whatsoever, because chances are good that your impression is dead on. That goes twice for medical professions that diagnose people based on a hunch rather than medical data, such as psychiatrists and psychologists.



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16 Mar 2012, 8:10 am

lostgirl1986 wrote:
That's what my doctor thought...he didn't think I had Asperger's Syndrome but my psychiatrist said I may have it. They're supposed to do proper testing, it's not just a matter of looking at you and asking one or two questions....and I think the only person qualified to give a diagnosis is a psychologist. Is your therapist a psychologist? The only reason I haven't gotten tested is because I can't afford a psychologist and it's too expensive for me.


Can't you get referred? I'm going in for testing/diagnosis in July, and I've was referred to a mental health specialist by a councillor recommended by my doctor, then to a psychologist and an occupational therapist by the specialist.

It's confusing, yes.
But since you live in Canada, it should be free. Does Ontario have a different Mental Health policy than Nova Scotia?



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16 Mar 2012, 6:19 pm

Even if it turns out you don't have Aspergers, you might still have some symptoms.



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16 Mar 2012, 6:52 pm

I don't mean to disappoint you. But did she give you any diagnostic tests?

If not it is malpractice to me. Sorry, but to accurately diagnose Asperger's per the DSM-IV it take a few visits and testing. Depending on your age there are about 10 different tests. Just because they have certificates (Degrees) on the wall means nothing. I have six certificates on my wall. I could go on, but I would recommend taking the on-line tests for a variety of things. Including Aspergers. Aspergers is much harder to diagnose in adults.

So you might ask how do I know? Read get the Complete Guide To Aspergers Syndrome by Tony Attwood. It is all spelled out clearly. Just a chat with a doctor is not enough.

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16 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

It doesn't matter what any doctor says; it's how YOU feel.
If you were to go to a doctor, say "I think I am depressed", and after all the tests if the doctor were to say "No, I don't think that you are", would it change anything? Autistic Related Disorders are so much of a blanket that I think many Neurotypical could apply to at least one of them some of the time or based on the test.

I have to disagree with your "weird for no reason" line of thinking. No, you are 'weird' because you are YOU. If you were hoping that a label could be used to explain why you were 'weird', then I hate to burst your bubble but it does not work that way. I know five other people who are diagnosed just like me. We are all different but the Crown of Thorned 'Weirdness' belongs to me. Does having a label change anything? Helllllllll, no. I was weird when I was three, when I was eight, when I was diagnosed, and I am weird now with an extra order of crazy.

When I was diagnosed, I had a lot of problems. "Am I this because of how I am?", "Do I do this because of how I am?", and every variation. That line of thinking, I found, is a giant bowl of bull. The correct is this:

"You are how you are because of WHO you are." Never forget that. A label will never change WHO you are.

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