I hate the feeling of having done something wrong.

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02 Apr 2012, 12:34 pm

And not knowing what it was.


Over the last few weeks me and this girl have been talking a lot. just as friends. It's okay though cause I went into it with just being friends in mind to begin with.. But on Friday we went to an Event for something we both take part in (and in fact where we met) and she basically ignored me the entire weekend even after I'd gone out of my way to try and accommodate what she wanted.. and then on Sunday she seemed to be back to normal but now isn't talking to me again.

I can't for the life of me figure out what i said or did that could have caused this, yet at the same time I know it must be my fault some how. It's causing me a lot of problems.. I can't seem to focus on anything, and I just keep neurotically refreshing facebook and my Email hoping that she's sent me a message and that things will go back to how they were on Friday.

I really hate this as I thought I had made a really good friend but now I'm just obsessed with the idea that I've done something to ruin another friendship and am too oblivious to realize what I did.



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02 Apr 2012, 12:49 pm

People that I interact with every day seem to act towards me according to some random schedule. I can't figure it out, and the first negative response usually causes me to completely shut up for the rest of the day. I don't think that is the 'right' response to take though...

Maybe just roll with it? Actively pursue time with your mate when she seems positive about it, and otherwise just give her space? And don't take it to heart if she doesn't seem receptive to you on occasion. I know, easier said than done, but I think it is the right way to go...



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02 Apr 2012, 1:07 pm

Guybrush_Threepwood wrote:
People that I interact with every day seem to act towards me according to some random schedule. I can't figure it out, and the first negative response usually causes me to completely shut up for the rest of the day. I don't think that is the 'right' response to take though...

Maybe just roll with it? Actively pursue time with your mate when she seems positive about it, and otherwise just give her space? And don't take it to heart if she doesn't seem receptive to you on occasion. I know, easier said than done, but I think it is the right way to go...


I hate it but I think you are right, I will just give it time and space and see what happens.

What's really bad is I even asked if I had done something, and was assured I hadn't.. but I can't help but feel I did. Anytime the status quo is upset I tend to freak out and assume I did something to cause the change...



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02 Apr 2012, 1:16 pm

We can't help but be concerned....but that stresses NT's out. Just relax :)



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02 Apr 2012, 1:21 pm

sound advice, just difficult to achieve in practice.



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02 Apr 2012, 1:29 pm

Yeah, it is. I wish I was better at it. A while ago somebody that I considered a close mate and mentor, due to age, told me to "stop stressing" him with my "f*cking s**t". I'd gone to him to talk because I was upset about a situation I found myself in. I can't go to him any more.

I need to not only give other people a break...I need to give myself a break.

Look at it this way...your friend hasn't found the need to bluntly tell you off yet...how about aiming to demonstrate to her that you are stress free, and maybe even fun to be around?



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02 Apr 2012, 1:43 pm

Guybrush_Threepwood wrote:
Yeah, it is. I wish I was better at it. A while ago somebody that I considered a close mate and mentor, due to age, told me to "stop stressing" him with my "f*cking sh**". I'd gone to him to talk because I was upset about a situation I found myself in. I can't go to him any more.

I need to not only give other people a break...I need to give myself a break.

Look at it this way...your friend hasn't found the need to bluntly tell you off yet...how about aiming to demonstrate to her that you are stress free, and maybe even fun to be around?


It is funny that you mention that since that's sorta what she told me.. But I honestly didn't realize I was in a bad mood until she mentioned it.



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02 Apr 2012, 1:48 pm

You have to tell her that you are not a mind reader, and are no good at reading physical cues, or mood cues, so if there is ever something bothering her, she needs to tell you in plain words, either spoken or written down, as you can't fix anything that's wrong if you don't know what it is.

I have observed over my 5 decades + of life that many, many girls and women have the delusion that youths and men automatically just "know" when something is bothering the girl/ woman, and that the guys also automatically just "know" what it is, so if the guy doesn't fix it as soon as possible without being told what's up, then the guy is being an a$$. I am myself a female, but this attitude of fellow members of my gender is stupid, asinine, and bugs me, too. It also leads to a lot of grief, including broken homes for kids of divorce.

Ladies CUT IT OUT!! ! Stop with this "he's not getting my signals or he is ignoring my upsetness, and not fixing things, so he is bad", routine. If you want him to know if you are mad, and what about, and to fix it--COMMUNICATE YOUR PROBLEM TO HIM IN REAL WORDS, NOT CUTESY MAD ATTITUDES!! ! For the record, those cutesy mad attitudes are not cute.

Sorry about the rant on your behalf, but I had to deal with a mother who thought I could read her mind, and thus should have known what was bugging her, until she passed away a few years ago. She was a difficult person to live with for this and a number of other reasons. :roll:

Now remember, tell your GF that you are not a mind reader, so she needs to communicate in real words.


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02 Apr 2012, 1:54 pm

questor wrote:
You have to tell her that you are not a mind reader, and are no good at reading physical cues, or mood cues, so if there is ever something bothering her, she needs to tell you in plain words, either spoken or written down, as you can't fix anything that's wrong if you don't know what it is.

I have observed over my 5 decades + of life that many, many girls and women have the delusion that youths and men automatically just "know" when something is bothering the girl/ woman, and that the guys also automatically just "know" what it is, so if the guy doesn't fix it as soon as possible without being told what's up, then the guy is being an a$$. I am myself a female, but this attitude of fellow members of my gender is stupid, asinine, and bugs me, too. It also leads to a lot of grief, including broken homes for kids of divorce.

Ladies CUT IT OUT!! ! Stop with this "he's not getting my signals or he is ignoring my upsetness, and not fixing things, so he is bad", routine. If you want him to know if you are mad, and what about, and to fix it--COMMUNICATE YOUR PROBLEM TO HIM IN REAL WORDS, NOT CUTESY MAD ATTITUDES!! ! For the record, those cutesy mad attitudes are not cute.

Sorry about the rant on your behalf, but I had to deal with a mother who thought I could read her mind, and thus should have known what was bugging her, until she passed away a few years ago. She was a difficult person to live with for this and a number of other reasons. :roll:

Now remember, tell your GF that you are not a mind reader, so she needs to communicate in real words.


She isn't my girlfriend. She's just a friend.

But yeah I think when/if things get back to normal I'll explain that if I'm doing something annoying or upsetting she needs to tell me bluntly what it is so I can stop doing it, otherwise I won't know to stop whatever it is. She knows i'm an aspie, but since most of our communication up till now has been online it doesn't really show as much. It's easier to laugh off awkward comments when you are just chatting than it is when you are in person.. We've probably spent close to 100+ hours chatting online, but really only spent like.. 15-20 together in real life. So that could be part of the problem also.



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02 Apr 2012, 6:13 pm

Still not heard anything from her... making myself sick cause I can't eat anything until I know some resolution..

I really just wish it could go back to how it was on Friday, but some how I doubt that's going to happen...



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03 Apr 2012, 9:40 am

I'm sorry that you're going through this. Friendships or relationships not going the way we want them is definitely hard for the disposition life puts us in.

But.. don't let yourself not eat over her. You don't know her well enough, for all you know she's bipolar or has major hormonal mood swings. It isn't close to worth it and you don't owe her anymore accomodations. Friendships, are give and take--not just give.

What was the last thing that happened when things were going good for you guys? Was there a huge awkward silence or something after yo said something? Did things end on what seemed like a positive note? Did she seem happy? If they did end positively--and she came back gloom, doom and antisocial the next time you guys met--thats on her, not you.

Take a step back and use what worked initially in starting this friendship, to help you try and start a new one.



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03 Apr 2012, 5:23 pm

Greatsharkbite wrote:
I'm sorry that you're going through this. Friendships or relationships not going the way we want them is definitely hard for the disposition life puts us in.

But.. don't let yourself not eat over her. You don't know her well enough, for all you know she's bipolar or has major hormonal mood swings. It isn't close to worth it and you don't owe her anymore accomodations. Friendships, are give and take--not just give.

What was the last thing that happened when things were going good for you guys? Was there a huge awkward silence or something after yo said something? Did things end on what seemed like a positive note? Did she seem happy? If they did end positively--and she came back gloom, doom and antisocial the next time you guys met--thats on her, not you.

Take a step back and use what worked initially in starting this friendship, to help you try and start a new one.


Thats just it, as far as I know there was no awkward silence. I simply went to bed before she did, and the next morning it was like everything was different, but then by the end of the weekend things seemed to be going back to normal.. but now I've not talked to her at all in like 2 days and I just don't know whats going on. I'm afraid to contact her lest I come across as pushy or needy. But at the same time it's driving me nuts to just wait and see.

I can't start another friendship like this one. we understood, or at least I thought we understood, one another on a really deep level.. I mean we had gotten to the stage of completing each others sentences in record time.. Thats the thing thats so frustrating about it. I didn't go into this thinking of her as a potential girlfriend, just as a person who I wanted to be friends with. We were even starting to talk about being room mates.

I don't want another friendship, I want this one to go back to how it was 4 days ago.



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03 Apr 2012, 9:24 pm

Yeah probably the best thing to do is give it some time. Give her a moment to contact you and then maybe play it off casually when you call her. "Hey hadn't heard from you in a while, hows it going?"

Even if you want the friendship, don't give her power over your relationship.



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03 Apr 2012, 9:34 pm

It's curious but after thinking about it again, and talking to a friend who is as close to an Uber N/T as one can get (He's friends with EVERYONE and never has any problem getting jobs or whatever he wants) he suggested I was looking at it all wrong.

His suggestion was that maybe it wasn't something that I did, but something that I didn't do. If accurate it would also explain another niggling concern from the weekend, that being why some mutual acquaintances commented to me that I needed to be more assertive...



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04 Apr 2012, 6:05 pm

I guess as aspies we are prone to emotional crashes so maybe NTs are prone to mood swings, I mean it could be something really really small for example I can be affected by small things like people around me eating with thier mouths open, so perhaps its not that you did anything wrong just something that irriatated her as a pet hate perhaps?

Sometimes even when your trying your best with someone it just takes that little bit more effort even when your giving what feels like your best you know. Hope all goes well!


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12 Apr 2012, 10:48 pm

Silva20contraorder wrote:
I guess as aspies we are prone to emotional crashes so maybe NTs are prone to mood swings, I mean it could be something really really small for example I can be affected by small things like people around me eating with thier mouths open, so perhaps its not that you did anything wrong just something that irriatated her as a pet hate perhaps?

Sometimes even when your trying your best with someone it just takes that little bit more effort even when your giving what feels like your best you know. Hope all goes well!


After nearly 2 weeks of not talking to her she logged onto the chat ap we use today. I still didn't talk to her but at least I know i'm not blocked, which I was afraid of. But I've still not received any E-Mails or direct communications from her. I'll find out 100% whats up this weekend.. Everything will either go back to how it was before, and I'll accept that i'm simply paranoid, or it will never recover and I'll just have to accept that I did something wrong which I cannot understand.