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11 Oct 2012, 3:13 pm

Not all NTs are ignorant, many of them are cool and accept that humanity is diverse and there are different kinds of people, the ones I have a problem with are the highly social ones. The ones who think the way they are is right and others should conform to their way. They think that because most humans are social, then being non social is unnatural and wrong. NTs who know I have HFA still seem to think they're doing me a favour by trying to drag me into their social BS. Its real insulting and disrespectul. They don't respect the fact that I'm a loner and need solitude. I got diagnosed late in life (in my early 20's) and my life has been f****d up beyond repair as a result of me trying to overcome what I thought was a weakness (my inability to socialise normally). The diagnosis came too late (after things got irreversibly f****d up). The upside though is I'm not planning on living too long so I have nothing to lose anymore. I'd never commit suicide but I'm gonna live an insane life and end up dying in the process. The Amazon jungle is at the top of my list of places to go. I can be a reckless madman and do anything I want because I welcome death. Nothing to lose, everything to gain. My family will feel bad about me dying but its their responsibility to cease being such p*****s and accept that everyone dies.



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11 Oct 2012, 3:19 pm

There are a lot of aspies who would give everything they have for friends who would take them out and help them socialize.



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11 Oct 2012, 3:24 pm

thewhitrbbit wrote:
There are a lot of aspies who would give everything they have for friends who would take them out and help them socialize.


Be careful what you wish for.



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11 Oct 2012, 4:39 pm

again_with_this wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
There are a lot of aspies who would give everything they have for friends who would take them out and help them socialize.


Be careful what you wish for.


Yeah, my sentiments exactly. I had friends my whole life and it was only after being diagnosed that I decided to become a loner and since then, life has been relatively good. All the psychological and psychosomatic problems that built up as a result of me trying to socialise normally are still there though so things are still f****d, hence why I'm not planning on living too long.



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11 Oct 2012, 4:57 pm

Crankbadger wrote:
again_with_this wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
There are a lot of aspies who would give everything they have for friends who would take them out and help them socialize.


Be careful what you wish for.


Yeah, my sentiments exactly. I had friends my whole life and it was only after being diagnosed that I decided to become a loner and since then, life has been relatively good. All the psychological and psychosomatic problems that built up as a result of me trying to socialise normally are still there though so things are still f****, hence why I'm not planning on living too long.


Is it really THAT bad?!? I have wanted friends my whole life... Does it mean my ideals are just a case of "the grass is always greener"?? What about if you find friends that are a happy medium of wanting to spend time with you and socalise, but also just to be quiet and "still" with you when you want. Like just laying around on the grass on a warm, cloudy day...

I don't think it is totally blind optimism to imagine there are nice people out there that you can be happy being around...why do we have to socialise "normally" to still have friends??



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12 Oct 2012, 9:53 am

iamcoley wrote:
Crankbadger wrote:
again_with_this wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
There are a lot of aspies who would give everything they have for friends who would take them out and help them socialize.


Be careful what you wish for.


Yeah, my sentiments exactly. I had friends my whole life and it was only after being diagnosed that I decided to become a loner and since then, life has been relatively good. All the psychological and psychosomatic problems that built up as a result of me trying to socialise normally are still there though so things are still f****, hence why I'm not planning on living too long.


Is it really THAT bad?!? I have wanted friends my whole life... Does it mean my ideals are just a case of "the grass is always greener"?? What about if you find friends that are a happy medium of wanting to spend time with you and socalise, but also just to be quiet and "still" with you when you want. Like just laying around on the grass on a warm, cloudy day...

I don't think it is totally blind optimism to imagine there are nice people out there that you can be happy being around...why do we have to socialise "normally" to still have friends??


Friends aren't ALL that bad. When I was 15 and friendless, a really nice girl befriended me even though she was really popular and pretty and everyone loved her (she was captain of the netball team which was a huge thing in my secondary school). She was the best friend I ever had and she was completely NT, but she never made me do anything I didn't want to do. I actually learnt most of my social skills from her and she always made sure people were nice to me.

She even knew that I get stressed out from being around too many people so she found a cool little cinema to take me to see Star Trek for my 16th birthday even though she hates sci-fi and her other friends wanted her to hang out with them. So, you know. Some friends can be really great. :)


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12 Oct 2012, 10:11 am

I tend to respect people who are ''homely people'', like young people who prefer to stay indoors at week-end evenings instead of going out, even if they had friends to go out with. It seems like the majority of youngsters do go out and drink and dance, and so I feel more admiration for those that don't (whether they're NT or not). I have a friend (the same age as me) on Facebook who loves spending time with her family, and hasn't got a boyfriend and not many friends. She has Epilepsy, and a few social difficulties, and I feel for her. I'd rather look at her nice pictures of her with her family and her baby nieces and nephews and her cats, than looking at people's pictures of them all dolled up at a bar with a pile of mates, or those who complain about their hangovers on week-end mornings. I have to hold myself back from saying ''I have no sympathy for you''. It annoys me so much because there are some people out there who are fighting for their lives from awful things like cancer and would do anything to be better, and then there's these stupid people who make themselves ill by drinking themselves stupid, mostly to prove something to their little friends. Disgusting!! ! :roll:


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13 Oct 2012, 12:57 am

Crankbadger wrote:
again_with_this wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
There are a lot of aspies who would give everything they have for friends who would take them out and help them socialize.


Be careful what you wish for.


Yeah, my sentiments exactly. I had friends my whole life and it was only after being diagnosed that I decided to become a loner and since then, life has been relatively good. All the psychological and psychosomatic problems that built up as a result of me trying to socialise normally are still there though so things are still f****, hence why I'm not planning on living too long.


Same here. Also NTs being "ignorant" seems very common(no offense). A lot of them are willingly stupid as well(no offense).

I hav no interest in head games, arguing for the sake of it, flattery, egotistical people, insecure people that pick on others to feel good about themselves, cattiness, etc.


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13 Oct 2012, 2:27 pm

thewhitrbbit wrote:
There are a lot of aspies who would give everything they have for friends who would take them out and help them socialize.


Not this Aspie. The thought scares me!



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14 Oct 2012, 6:26 am

Jeanna wrote:
iamcoley wrote:

Is it really THAT bad?!? I have wanted friends my whole life... Does it mean my ideals are just a case of "the grass is always greener"?? What about if you find friends that are a happy medium of wanting to spend time with you and socalise, but also just to be quiet and "still" with you when you want. Like just laying around on the grass on a warm, cloudy day...

I don't think it is totally blind optimism to imagine there are nice people out there that you can be happy being around...why do we have to socialise "normally" to still have friends??


Friends aren't ALL that bad. When I was 15 and friendless, a really nice girl befriended me even though she was really popular and pretty and everyone loved her (she was captain of the netball team which was a huge thing in my secondary school). She was the best friend I ever had and she was completely NT, but she never made me do anything I didn't want to do. I actually learnt most of my social skills from her and she always made sure people were nice to me.

She even knew that I get stressed out from being around too many people so she found a cool little cinema to take me to see Star Trek for my 16th birthday even though she hates sci-fi and her other friends wanted her to hang out with them. So, you know. Some friends can be really great. :)


Thanks Jeanna - it's reassuring to see that there is a nice story to be shared. I'll be ok with leaving "bad" friends behind until I find someone who might be worth spending time with. Out of 7 billion people in the world it doesn't seem like bad odds :-)



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17 Oct 2012, 12:19 am

If you have a job and desire to be nonsocial, then that's fine. If you sit around all day not talking to anyone and not contributing to society in any way, then they have every right to look down upon you. I, personally, would love to be able to socialize with others easily. That's why I work on my skills and try to be a better person. The fact is, there are social standards out there. If you want to be social but you're not willing to improve yourself as a person and just feel sorry for yourself because people won't accept you, then you have nobody but yourself to blame. If you carry your own load in life, but just want to be alone, then that's fine. People are judgmental by nature, it only depends on how honest they are about their feelings of you.



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17 Oct 2012, 8:41 am

Arborweek wrote:
If you sit around all day not talking to anyone and not contributing to society in any way, then they have every right to look down upon you.


That is how I am but if they look down on me I don't care because I want nothing to do with them. I could sit in my house the rest of my life and never see another human again and it probably wouldn't bother me. The only time I even purposely leave the house for socialization is the one week or so my friend from another state visits. Otherwise I only leave the house to do specific things like buy something from a store or do laundry during which I hope people don't bother me.