how can anyone be so cruel to another human being?

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30 Oct 2012, 8:36 am

you see, just last night my own cousins were making cruel heartless jokes about all the people who were hurt or killed by the storm.
And, alot of other people thought their cruel sick jokes were funny... it seems on one cares about other human beings anymore... how can people be so cold like this? I feel bad for all those hurt or killed by the storm, but my own cousins, who happen to be full grown adults, thought the storm and all those poor peole was something to luagh at... death and destruction is not funny, I can't understand why they think it's funny. everyday I lose more hope for humanity... human kind simply cannot go on if everyone lacks compassion. they have no feelings... no sense of right or wrong... it's depressing... please there has to be good people in the world, somewhere...
I don't want to see our civilization detiorate any farther, but I fear there it no hope... why does no one know how to care? how to understand? how to love? why can't we all live and work together in peace?

it's sad to know people make fun of pain and suffering... it's really sad... And even a so called "american hero"(a guy from the army) was luaghing at the people hurt by the storm...
why are people like this? is there anyone who still cares about our own people? the human race can't survive much longer if this sort of sick people continue to get away with the hatred and cruelty... I wish there was something I could do. all I want to for our species to get along and live without the hate...



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30 Oct 2012, 8:47 am

I can assure you that there are still people out there who care. It can be hard to see them, as they are often less loud and boistrous than those who don't. Those who don't care often are simply not thinking about other people, only about themselves and how circumstances affect them. Some people do it to cover their own pain or distract themselves from it. Beyond that I don't really understand the cruelty. Part of the issue is that cruelty and ruthlessness are encouraged, seen as 'survival of the fittest' (they will claim that they are acting in an evolutionary fashion, while not really understanding exactly what it even means), even though for humans a large part of survival depends on altruism.

But there are people out their for whom teamwork and kindness mean something. People who see a man walking out into a road to commit suicide, and walk out, and bring them back. People who will go out of their way to provide for someone they have no responsibilty for, no blood relation too, out of the kindness of their hearts. People who will go out of their way to rescue tiny insects from their pool, even. There are vast groups of people who get together and create wonderful things--works of art, wells of knowledge (Wikipedia is a fantastic example of human cooperation). Sadly the cruel exist, and the scariest thing is that most people who are cruel can also be kind, and vice versa. But there is hope.



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30 Oct 2012, 10:43 am

Since people with Asperger's are supposed to be incapable of feeling empathy for others anyway, and never having had to suffer through a severe disaster (knock on wood), is it wrong to say I really don't care about "superstorm" Sandy or its aftermath? Last night it was on every news channel and of course the reporters love to make it as over dramatic as possible, which I hate. :x I would never make cruel jokes about people dying or losing everything. That could happen to any of us at any time. But I can't sob and cry and feel bad for all the suffering in the world or there would be nothing left of me. Disease, war, disaster, bullying, climate change, murder... I HAVE to block it out to a point so I won't go insane! I almost did after 9/11. :(



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30 Oct 2012, 12:23 pm

Because they can.


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30 Oct 2012, 2:47 pm

I don't think it's anything new - I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't be doing so if they had a similar experience as the ones they're making fun of...or maybe they would, who knows these days

But it is a certainty that many people aren't like you described. Just have to find them.


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30 Oct 2012, 2:48 pm

Double post...stupid PC...


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31 Oct 2012, 4:08 pm

It's probably something along the lines of "black humor", where people make jokes about things that upset them, so that the things that are bothering them seem less terrible. It's employed in the medical profession quite a bit. When I worked in NICU I remember the nurses making jokes that at first just horrified me. There were babies dying in that unit and nurses made jokes. One of them saw the look on my face and explained that sometimes the only way they could handle it was to turn it completely around and make horrible jokes about it. It didn't make it not effect them, but they were able to put off being upset until their shift was over. They had to be able to functio to take care of the babies, not break down in tears. It's a defense mechanism.

Also, some people find black humor funny even if they don't find the actual situation they are joking about to be funny.

I doubt your relatives thought that people dying in the storm was funny, they probably just thought their dark humor was funny.


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31 Oct 2012, 4:23 pm

Their joking didn't hurt any of those people affected by the storm, did it? The reason such jokes are funny is because they are transgressive, BECAUSE it is so horrible, because it is the opposite of the empathy expected. Those same NTs who make such jokes at a distance would be distressed and horrified if the victims of the disaster were right in front of them, and would likely try to help instead of making a mockery. Cruelty is as cruelty does.



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31 Oct 2012, 4:26 pm

Giftorcurse wrote:
Because they can.

This basically. ^^



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31 Oct 2012, 5:45 pm

I'm not saying that what they're doing is necessarily okay, but like someone else said, does it really matter? It's not like anyone is harmed by the jokes. Sure, the people joking are probably as*holes, but the jokes don't hurt anybody.

That aside, are you REALLY surprised? I mean, back in the middle ages, people would get their tongues cut out, and they invented the anal and vaginal "pear." For those of you who aren't familiar with it, it was a torture device, shaped like a pear, designed to be inserted into a victim's vaginal or anal cavity. Its shell was 4 separate pieces, and it had a screw mechanism that allowed the 4 pieces to separate and stretch the ever living s**t out of whatever orifice it happened to be placed in. And that's just ONE device. There are things like the rack, the iron maiden, etc. People are crueler than hell to one another and have been for a LONG time. I'm not trying to make fun of you or anything, but I don't see why you should be surprised that someone's making a joke about people dying in a hurricane.

Hell, you can find videos on youtube of US soldiers laughing and joking about shooting people from a helicopter. In fact, I saw a video of a journalist who was carrying a CAMERA(that was supposedly "mistaken" for a gun) getting shot to pieces while the soldiers just have a grand old time shooting at him. At one point, you can hear one of the soldiers say something like "Come on... Move, damnit! Move so I can shoot you some more!"

I'm not the least bit surprised.



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31 Oct 2012, 5:56 pm

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I don't want to see our civilization detiorate any farther, but I fear there it no hope... why does no one know how to care? how to understand? how to love? why can't we all live and work together in peace?


Our Civilzation detiorate any further? You really must be Media blind. The World is a brutal and mean place, and we've always fought to survive we still do. Human nature is as Savage and wild as the world once you get down to it's depths. Civilizations rise, clash and fall.

And in case you think I've a bleak outlook because for no reason. I'm from Northern Ireland I've seen the aftermath of wars. Several Jewish friends of mine(Irish) have moved to Israel where they're basicly fighting to survive and prove their rightful place. Alot of my friends are Ex-forces who've served in the middle east and have been thrown to the curb by the goverment because their no longer needed.
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As for jokes about the Hurricane, If it doesn't effect them directly then they've no reason to treat it as a sensitive subject, their disconnected by it and the situation is a Black humor gold mine.
Here's a British comedians joke about it.
“This ‘Sandy’ who’s on TV all the time and is blowing the entire east coast, I assume she’s a Kardashian right?”


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31 Oct 2012, 6:10 pm

you people, you don't even deserve to be called people! thier cruel jokes, and your creul jokes, are extremely painful! I simply can not stand for a soceity that behaves in such a manner... you don't even know the whole story.,



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31 Oct 2012, 7:55 pm

transformingcar wrote:
you people, you don't even deserve to be called people! thier cruel jokes, and your creul jokes, are extremely painful! I simply can not stand for a soceity that behaves in such a manner... you don't even know the whole story.,


Then that makes you so completely different from them for insulting us for our opinion, doesn't it?

Really, even if you neglected to tell us the whole story, you must certainly be justified in telling us that we don't deserve to be called people because we said something you didn't like, even though we were all just simply explaining a type of behavior.

You are certainly much, much better than them.

Or us.

Of course you are.

BTW, and whose fault is it exactly, that we DON'T know the whole story? Could it be.......... yours OP?


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31 Oct 2012, 9:50 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
transformingcar wrote:
you people, you don't even deserve to be called people! thier cruel jokes, and your creul jokes, are extremely painful! I simply can not stand for a soceity that behaves in such a manner... you don't even know the whole story.,


Then that makes you so completely different from them for insulting us for our opinion, doesn't it?

Really, even if you neglected to tell us the whole story, you must certainly be justified in telling us that we don't deserve to be called people because we said something you didn't like, even though we were all just simply explaining a type of behavior.

You are certainly much, much better than them.

Or us.

Of course you are.

BTW, and whose fault is it exactly, that we DON'T know the whole story? Could it be.......... yours OP?


first of all, I'm not the one who laughed at the people who died, my cousins luaghed at them, and the reason I siad, you don't know the whole story, is simply becuase the whole thing hasn't ended yet, they started harrassing me. they have directly attacked by mother with their cruel harsh words. and how the hell is it my falt? I'm just standing up for whats right. which appearently, is something few people bother to do anymore...



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31 Oct 2012, 9:50 pm

double post... sorry.



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31 Oct 2012, 9:50 pm

double post agian, sorry...