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04 Apr 2007, 5:30 am

Got to agree: if you need to, remind them that you reported the bullying twice and they still chose not to act so attempting to now punish you would be inconsistent.
If they have an anti-bullying policy, read it and refer to it if necessary and if not, then you'll be able to tell them there weren't any rules you could have broken ;)

Seriously though: you did something I wish I'd had the guts to do for others when I was at school.
You gave the bullies and your school 2 chances before using physical means as a last resort so I think you did the right thing.
Good luck :)



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04 Apr 2007, 9:03 am

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OVER THE LAST 3 WEEKS I'VE SEEN THIS KID GET BULLIED EVERY DAY, HES 1ST YEAR THEY'RE 3RD YEAR. 1 1ST YEAR VS 8 3RD YEARS. I'M IN 5TH YEAR, SO I REPORTED THIS AFTER 1 WEEK NOTHING WAS DONE SO AT THE END OF THE 2ND WEEK I REPORTED IT AGAIN, AGAIN NOTHIN WAS DONE. THE BULLYING HAD BEEN VERBAL UP TILL TUESDAY OF THE 3RD WEEK, THEN IT GOT PHYSICAL, I COULD SEE THE KID WAS SCARED SO ON THURSDAY AFTER SCHOOL I TURNED ROUND AND THUMPED 6 OF THEM :oops: (I WAS REALLY PISSED ,IT REMINDED ME OF WHEN I GOT BULLIED BAD)NOW THEY LEAVE HIM BUT I FEEL BAD!! DID I DO THE RIGHT THING??

I ALSO THINK THE 1ST YEAR HAS AS WHICH MADE IT PERSONAL!!

You gave those spoiled little brats what they deserved. I salute you for it. If only I had someone stick up for me like that :cry:


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05 Apr 2007, 6:43 pm

When I was in 8th grade (13 yo in the American school system), I had a lot of trouble with a bully. The principal tried to help, but there wasn't much he could do; it simply wasn't possible for him to be everywhere, and he had limited options. What finally stopped it was the day that the bully started teasing me with his guard down, and I suddenly saw red and punched him in the nose!

The bully's mother came crying to the principal how I had "beat up her kid", to which he replied, "It's about time!" (With a name like Mr. Dill, you know that he had to have a sense of humor.) My own folks were also very supportive, even though I had difficulties with them in other areas.

I do get the impression that Aspie children are much more likely to be the target of bullying, due to percieved vulnerability and oddness, and the lack of social skills. It doesn't go away in adulthood; it's just that the bullying becomes less blatantly physical and more a matter of snubbing and back-stabbing. I do know that, because of repeated lawsuits plus several school shooting incidents from bullying victims, schools in America are becoming more aware of the bullying issue, but we still have a long way to go.


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05 Apr 2007, 8:08 pm

they say violence wont solve problems.
i say unless you do it right, it really wont. ;)

just kidding. you tried to get the story sorted out the official way and it didnt help. even if there was action, i doubt it would have helped. i study sociology as a subsidiary subject (go figure why ;)) and last term, i had to prepare a lecture on social groups. one idea in group research was to divide groupings of people in formal groups versus informal groups. formal groups are how an organization is structured: headmaster first, teachers below that, and each teacher is the boss of his pupils. informal groups are the relationships that build between people because they interact with each other: friendships in class, some teachers like the headmaster while some oppose him, etcetera...
pupils bullying other pupils is a problem on the informal level. while the teacher can use his position of authority in the formal structure to punish pupils for formal misdoings, trying to solve completely informal problems formally usually wont work. on this level, the teacher doesnt have real authority.

so, long story short, i think you did right. a lot of us can relate to what it is like to be bullied, so even a slight overreaction would have been excusable (is that even a word?). i mean, its not that you got to them with two years and some weight advantage and broke some ribs and noses.



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05 Apr 2007, 8:22 pm

gekitsu wrote:
they say violence wont solve problems.
i say unless you do it right, it really wont. ;)
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06 Apr 2007, 4:15 am

You used violence. Bad.

You must search your inner feelings and should deal differently from now on with violence.

I'm an 8 year karate student, we don't use violence unless it is necessary, and only then we're probably only gonna paralyze you.

THe way to peace is not through actions alone, but through actions mediated with words and the healing behind them.


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06 Apr 2007, 6:23 am

Violence is the last resort of the incompetent - Hari Seldon

Or the bored - me.

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06 Apr 2007, 6:26 am

Ideally any problem can be solved without violence.

Realistically, this isn't the case. Violence should be the last choice, sometimes one simply runs out of options sooner rather than later. Yeah, I know, to this one could say "Then perhaps they hadn't thought long enough about alternatives." Maybe sitting around and thinking about it wasn't an option?



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06 Apr 2007, 6:33 am

In my opinion you did the right thing.

That was Bloody good of you. This thread actually made my heart leap. You're a good guy, with a good heart.

A lot of the time that's what is needed, no matter how many people want to deny it.



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06 Apr 2007, 8:41 am

hale_bopp wrote:
In my opinion you did the right thing.

That was Bloody good of you. This thread actually made my heart leap. You're a good guy, with a good heart.

A lot of the time that's what is needed, no matter how many people want to deny it.



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06 Apr 2007, 1:11 pm

I also think you did the right thing - you went through the proper channels first and the authorities did nothing, and no one was seriously hurt. I think you deserve to be congratulated, and I hope you don't get into trouble over this.


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06 Apr 2007, 9:31 pm

shadexiii wrote:
Ideally any problem can be solved without violence.

Realistically, this isn't the case. Violence should be the last choice, sometimes one simply runs out of options sooner rather than later. Yeah, I know, to this one could say "Then perhaps they hadn't thought long enough about alternatives." Maybe sitting around and thinking about it wasn't an option?


Agreed. I don't like violence at all, and it's extremely rare that I use it. However, sometimes self-defense is necessary, and violence is often a necessary component of self-defense. What are we supposed to do, let people walk all over us and even beat us up -- especially when it's apparent that the only thing they would learn is that they can get away with it? Let's face it, this is reality.


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06 Apr 2007, 10:25 pm

YES! :twisted:


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