I can't deal with the arrogance and bigotry here anymore...

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The problem is society valuing people for the amount of wealth they have. I don't really buy into it though don't see why I should.

Not sure about that, I find it to be very helpful especially when I am feeling chemically unbalanced which happens a lot with with my various conditions. It seems to help more than any medication that has ever been prescribed to me. I also don't find it leading to isolation, since lots of other people enjoy it so thus you can smoke with people. Either way I find it calms me if I am having any suicidal ideation, though sometimes even that won't provide enough relief.

It wasn't just one person. Reading what that guy wrote pushed me over the edge but I was already worked up over someone else acting extremely high and mighty (e.g. "I won't date anyone living with mommy and daddy or making less than 40 grand") in another thread, who also proceeded to accuse me of being a creeper when I expressed the opinion that suddenly cutting contact after several dates was rude. There's only so much s**t I can take from people. MY LIFE IS NOT EASY, DO NOT f**k WITH ME! That's all I want these particular asswipes to understand.

The ability to acquire wealth has been used as the guide for valuing human worth. But I think this is an inaccurate measuring tool. People offer lots of value that isn't commercially rewarded.

It seems like it's driven narcissistic people who care a whole lot about where they are seen on the social totem-pole. I don't care if what's-his-face was interested in business and finance and wanted a partner with similar interests and ambitions. It's possible to have preferences without being a dick about it and expressing yourself arrogantly. I'd like to have a partner that's intelligent enough to have deeper discussions, but I'm not going around looking down my nose at people with a lower IQ than me.

yep society is going down the commercial drain. I totally get how you feel. they upset me and I also feel like a burden to society too. plus no one wants me cause of how worthless I am. doesn't seem to be any fighting them though.

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I agree with that, there was no need for them to be a dick about it. That kind of bigotry tends to contribute to me feeling like a worthless piece of crap that should off myself....so I get that feeling. Anyways sorry you're having to deal with those feelings.

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Yeah, that is kind of how it seems...seems like more likely to just develop apathy towards society, do ones own thing apart from it and hopefully influence it for the better, that sounds really half a**ed but what else does one do. Fight it and it would be like repeatedly running into a brick wall like an idiot thinking you're actually going to break it while just hurting yourself.

Something tells me that with my depression I wouldn't be happy even if I was making a lot of money. I just don't see running a business as any fun. It sounds no more appealing than working fast food. I could easily look down my nose at these MBA-douche types as boring philistines. If I want to see passion I'd rather hang out with artists or scientists. Those people have passion, but they don't always make their money from their passion.

I really doubt making a lot of money would make me happy....it wouldn't change the state of the world or anything, I would just be able to buy more stuff. But I hate the whole concept of money, It is beyond me how exactly it could be set up but I think the world is in dire need for something that is not a monetary system....there is enough on the world for everyone to live comfortably I bet. But humans are too stuck on power and status, and the false idea that our society/economic system actually represents survival of the fittest and there are limited resources that 'have' to be fought over. It's all BS....me or you or anyone else managing to end up making more money doesn't change any of that. Either way I think humans have constructed a trap for themselves.

The way the economy works now isn't sustainable long term. It isn't a steady-state system. We'll keep having recessions, and with each one inequality will grow worse. The developing world is still growing, but once they catch up it will be all over. There'll no longer be rich countries and poor countries. There'll be a rich elite that owns most everything in every country. The masses will all be poor in comparison.

Sadly, that seems to be the way things are certainly headed.

I really have to try and not think about the state of the world. I can't change it and I have to take care of myself first. I don't really care about making money, but I need at least some structure in my life. I feel better about volunteering.

That's a good plan. I deal with humanity-despising moods myself, a few times a month or so. Mostly it stems from my inability to understand others, particularly NTs. It's hard to empathize when all I see in them, compared to myself, is selfish and thoughtless behavior. Unfortunately these people have some things I need such as money and other resources, so I have to deal with them.


I really don't know. I've heard what other posters say about it and I don't even bother going in there. Even if I had any interest in love and dating, I would still avoid it.

I want to reassure everyone that no one's a burden on society. There's a modern economic consensus among academics that consumption is vitally important to an economy. In fact, in the current economy, with unemployment being high and consumption low, every dollar you get without taking up space in the employment market is actually a great benefit to the economy, to the point that mainstream economists are suggesting the state should simply airdrop cash into poor neighbourhoods.

The reason why people look down on those who receive welfare is because they don't know anything about economics, because they're jealous that they don't get free money themselves, and because they simply don't like those of us who are worse off. They assume we're lazy or otherwise morally at fault.

All that said, try not to take it personally. Few of these people are consistent enough to actually judge you as an individual; They're mostly talking in generalities. Besides, their complaints are mostly racial in scope; they probably don't judge you for being mentally ill because they're too busy judging the "illegals" or whatnot.

I'm not anyone's priest, but I urge you to avoid getting angry with people. It just makes you sound more and more like the people you hate. It makes you narcissistic, intolerant, arrogant. The same things you rightly decry in others. I don't blame you for responding to pain as you do, because it's natural, and because I did it too, but try to hold on to your compassion for your fellow human, even when it's hard. If nothing else, it'll make you less worthy of their judgment, in effect proving them more wrong than they already are.

It's evil, greedy, selfish people that are the burden. They cost a lot of money and cause a lot of misery. They take from people who can't afford it and they use sick and disabled people as scapegoats. I have tried very hard to get work from home and I just get people trying to scam me. I feel like I have to justify why I'm not dead. I didn't ask to be born. Why don't they justify their existences and the endless misery they cause.