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29 Jul 2016, 2:02 am

All good.

Communication is a tricky business at the best of times!


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29 Jul 2016, 2:08 am

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All good.

Communication is a tricky business at the best of times!

speaking of communication, all this stuff got me curious about certain things about sign languages and language acquisition. i think it would be very interesting to talk about it in the forum, but i can't think of any thread where it would be appropriate and i can't think of a good way to start a thread about it (i'm also trying to figure out a constructive way to ask what women here on wp think of porn... :lol:). would you mind if i pm'ed you about it sometime? (not today, i'm supposed to be sleeping already. but sometime)


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29 Jul 2016, 2:18 am

^ Well, OK.

*has an impending PM panic attack*


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29 Jul 2016, 2:24 am

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^ Well, OK.

*has an impending PM panic attack*

:lol:

i hope it doesn't actually make you anxious. if it does, then really, don't worry. i think it's clear that i already admire you and your uncannily consistent ability to keep your cool and your sense of humor. well, if it wasn't clear yet, then there you go :)


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29 Jul 2016, 3:02 am

i do not hate this site. i just do not take much notice of it now.
i know i always continue to post, but i am not really interested in whether people read what i say or comment on it.

before i joined this site in 2008, i was a member of another autistic site called "aspergerinfo" hosted by a fellow called "winter", and i was known as "xb-70" there, and i posted about 4000 posts there until the site closed down, but i felt like i was an important element to that site because there were only about 3,000 members, and the site was not easily findable by the general public.
then i joined here and it is an entirely different experience.
on this site, i feel lost in the crowd, and there are too many members who obviously have inflated ego's and try to sound more intelligent than they are (google professors) and they boast and they BS about themselves.

i feel that there are not very many people like me on this site, and even if there are, i am less likely to be interested in pursuing a dialogue with them because i am getting tired of it all as i get older.

if i do meet someone here who i get along well with, i am sure i will never know them in real life.

i use this site as a place to just type thoughts about topic titles when i am otherwise disengaged. i almost never read what people reply to the topic title, and i just talk about the topic title and leave it at that.

when i was a child, i used to listen to my parents talking their important stuff to their friends, and it was all above my level of interest. it is not that it was above my level of understanding, but it was above my level of interest, and i thought "when i am their age i may be interested in the things they are interested in".

that is what it is like on this site. people all so ardently involved in scratching around for statistics to post, and chewing their cheeks in thought about their answer which they put much work into, but i am not that interested, so i fall behind the conversation and what i say is either ignored or thought to be irrelevant or else it is written in a way that does not invite reply.
i have difficulty in social reciprocation which was not a problem on the previous site i was on, but on this site, so many people are so much more advanced than i am in what they consider to be important to think about.

whatever. i do not feel disappointed about not being replied to because i have no particular interest in any other poster anyway.

my favourite time on this site was when "emlion" and "one step beyond" and "gina ghetto princess" and others were here. but now it is mainly just angsty young men who are desperate and dateless, and women who talk about stuff that i could not care about much (like sexism and whatever they are offended about).

i find that looks are very important to a persons popularity here. i have seen people that have been mainly ignored until they post their picture on the "post a pic.." thread, and if they are good looking (especially girls), then they are suddenly responded to by heaps of people regardless of the content of their other thread replies.

the people i like to read are "babybird" who reminds me of eliza doolittle in pygmalion, and sweetleaf who is the epitome of fairness of consideration, and wilburforce who i am always interested in what gripe she is now going to go on about, and "olive oil mum" who reminds me of "ma kettle", and ruveyn who is like a sage (but he is not currently posting much).

fnord is also someone i read because he is a clear example of someone who is instinctively antithetic to whatever he reads. a compliment from him is a very rare artifact indeed.

ggpviper is just a statistic purveyor and others do not not induce a mental image in my mind.

jannisy is someone who i find very intelligent but she is not missed when she does not post.

that ginger bearded fellow (i forget his name) who was very erudite and posted impressive posts and who was liked by "solveig" also is never mentioned in the "wp member you miss" thread.

some people's posts i have read in my time here were exceptional in their quality, but the poster resigns and disappears and is never noticed to be gone.

i just write whatever and hope that i am not banned, but i do not hope for anything else.



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29 Jul 2016, 3:42 am

^ nice post, b9

this site really is overwhelming. it's like a little universe of its own. it's not like the other site where i used to post either, which is about mental health in general, but split into specific categories. each category has only a handful of regular posters, and you usually know what to expect. there are clear and consistent patterns

for instance, there's one subforum where people will be offended if you're not excessively emotional and don't send virtual "hugs" every time someone complains about something trivial, there's another one where people expect you to put **trigger warnings** for the most ridiculous little things, there's another one where everybody is viciously attacking everybody else all the time and it's common sense that no one is to be taken seriously, there's another one where people usually sound depressed or depressing but tend to be friendly and mostly constructive, and then there's the one where i used to post, where being insensitive is the norm but no one really cares about it and people are rarely aggressive

none of those sections had any of this fanaticism that we constantly see here, which to me is new, perplexing and very alien. boys versus girls, religion versus another religion, political party versus other party, sjw's versus cave trolls, etc etc. everybody there was too concerned with their own problems to care about any of that :lol:. which to be honest feels much more natural to me. alas, having fewer members, the site is subject to cycles of stagnation, desertification and hipsters :evil:

i'm starting to like wp anyway. there's always a lot going on, and while there's A LOT of noise, there's a lot of good people too, and it's a good playground for me and my hyperactive mind


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29 Jul 2016, 4:17 am

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29 Jul 2016, 4:18 am

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^ nice post, b9

this site really is overwhelming. it's like a little universe of its own. it's not like the other site where i used to post either, which is about mental health in general, but split into specific categories. each category has only a handful of regular posters, and you usually know what to expect. there are clear and consistent patterns

for instance, there's one subforum where people will be offended if you're not excessively emotional and don't send virtual "hugs" every time someone complains about something trivial, there's another one where people expect you to put **trigger warnings** for the most ridiculous little things, there's another one where everybody is viciously attacking everybody else all the time and it's common sense that no one is to be taken seriously, there's another one where people usually sound depressed or depressing but tend to be friendly and mostly constructive, and then there's the one where i used to post, where being insensitive is the norm but no one really cares about it and people are rarely aggressive

none of those sections had any of this fanaticism that we constantly see here, which to me is new, perplexing and very alien. boys versus girls, religion versus another religion, political party versus other party, sjw's versus cave trolls, etc etc. everybody there was too concerned with their own problems to care about any of that :lol:. which to be honest feels much more natural to me. alas, having fewer members, the site is subject to cycles of stagnation, desertification and hipsters :evil:

i'm starting to like wp anyway. there's always a lot going on, and while there's A LOT of noise, there's a lot of good people too, and it's a good playground for me and my hyperactive mind


it's all just like walking through a big city and listening in to all the conversations on every street you pass.
this site is a good portrayal of global attitudes i do think.
even if this site is not autistic in it's majority, it's posts are nonetheless sensible and considered (unlike for example youtube comments which are like the utterances from bedlam) , and so it is good to see the prevailing attitude of the general population of the world on this site. you can not see it any clearer any where else.



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29 Jul 2016, 5:37 am

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How about we invite you to a Skype chat sometime and you will see that we are not the same person.

i appreciate the kind offer, but i don't feel like being doxxed today :)



Oddly enough I can't be doxxed. You know why? I don't give a damn. It feels good too. Someone has my address? Ok. A lot of people have that. My phone number? A lot of people have that too. If I don't want them calling I can block their number. Random people show up at my house? I have that taken care of too. Why are people so scared of getting doxxed that haven't done anything? Even if you have, why do you care what others think or do?

This has always confused me. That being said if I wanted to doxx you I could already do it if I tried I am sure. I am of a different political persuasion than "anonymous" though so I don't care much for them or their methods. Mostly script kiddies, the real hackers are mostly non-existent anymore. These days someone makes a tool and shares it, and then everyone who uses that tool which is basically automated calls themselves a "hacker". Script kiddies they are. Lamers.

In short. I have no reason, care, thought, need, want, desire, interest, etc. in doxxing anyone. I don't even do that to non businesses and government agencies.



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29 Jul 2016, 6:04 am

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i feel that there are not very many people like me on this site, and even if there are, i am less likely to be interested in pursuing a dialogue with them because i am getting tired of it all as i get older.

I like to read your posts, for your clarity in thought.
That makes you likable to me in my feeling.


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29 Jul 2016, 6:20 am

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b9 wrote:
i feel that there are not very many people like me on this site, and even if there are, i am less likely to be interested in pursuing a dialogue with them because i am getting tired of it all as i get older.

I like to read your posts, for your clarity in thought.
That makes you likable to me in my feeling.

ok. that is good.



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29 Jul 2016, 7:28 am

I'm starting to hate this site too.

PPR feels like you are under attack, rather than a place to discuss ideas.

For example, if I make a topic, "Does gravity even exist?" Then I will be bombarded with "that's nonsense", "fallacious thinking", "Straw Man", "Misquote", "Misrepresentation", "Is your idea peer reviewed? If not, then it's garbage".

Holy Moly! This is just a simple discussion to explore new ideas.

They act like they're a scientific body that I'm presenting research to.

So, I end up spending enormous effort having to explain away their accusations, rather than focused on the topic.

Likely, many PPR users just give up and never come back.



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29 Jul 2016, 8:00 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
I'm starting to hate this site too.

PPR feels like you are under attack, rather than a place to discuss ideas.

For example, if I make a topic, "Does gravity even exist?" Then I will be bombarded with "that's nonsense", "fallacious thinking", "Straw Man", "Misquote", "Misrepresentation", "Is your idea peer reviewed? If not, then it's garbage".

Holy Moly! This is just a simple discussion to explore new ideas.

They act like they're a scientific body that I'm presenting research to.

So, I end up spending enormous effort having to explain away their accusations, rather than focused on the topic.

Likely, many PPR users just give up and never come back.



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29 Jul 2016, 8:01 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
I'm starting to hate this site too.

PPR feels like you are under attack, rather than a place to discuss ideas.

For example, if I make a topic, "Does gravity even exist?" Then I will be bombarded with "that's nonsense", "fallacious thinking", "Straw Man", "Misquote", "Misrepresentation", "Is your idea peer reviewed? If not, then it's garbage".

Holy Moly! This is just a simple discussion to explore new ideas.

They act like they're a scientific body that I'm presenting research to.

So, I end up spending enormous effort having to explain away their accusations, rather than focused on the topic.

Likely, many PPR users just give up and never come back.


Sounds like when I try to explain that strict agnostics are not the same as agnostic atheists or agnostic theists. That because strict (or pure) agnostics believe a God or gods' probability for existence is just as likely as not (50/50) and agnostic theists believe there is more likely a God or gods than not, where agnostic atheists believe there is less likely a God or gods than is. Most atheists I tell this argue with me for hours about how I'm wrong and how I am just an atheist, etc. etc. Both sides will argue to me what I am saying is not true too and I don't even care, it's just what I believe and I was sharing it and got my head bit off lol.


**EDIT** - I tether with my phone and cloudflare constantly make me prove who I am is really annoying and messes up my posts a lot.



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29 Jul 2016, 10:31 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
I'm starting to hate this site too.

PPR feels like you are under attack, rather than a place to discuss ideas.

For example, if I make a topic, "Does gravity even exist?" Then I will be bombarded with "that's nonsense", "fallacious thinking", "Straw Man", "Misquote", "Misrepresentation", "Is your idea peer reviewed? If not, then it's garbage".

Holy Moly! This is just a simple discussion to explore new ideas.

They act like they're a scientific body that I'm presenting research to.

So, I end up spending enormous effort having to explain away their accusations, rather than focused on the topic.

Likely, many PPR users just give up and never come back.


The people who understand the least about science topics or how science works are usually the ones who are most confident that they know everything, while people who understand a lot are usually more open-minded and would entertain pretty much any idea, if only for fun. It is pointless to converse with the former, they are usually rigid and uninteresting in their ideas.


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29 Jul 2016, 5:43 pm

People complain about each other's traits soo much... what if people you guys don't like never existed. There would not be many people around :/ that would be pretty cool too though