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03 May 2010, 2:15 pm

Living with my parents. moms therapist told me mom and dad may get sick of me being all over the place and will "have enough".

She told me to go live with my bf in England. i have gotten vibes from my mom that she may be wanting to kick em out. and now I'm pretty sure i will be sooner or later. so hopefully i will have enough time to get my crap together solve my issues and be able to work before this happens.

Pray i can.

thanks blessing to all.
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03 May 2010, 3:14 pm

before i offer any insight from experience, may i ask your age?



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03 May 2010, 3:35 pm

Being kicked out made me wander around the neighbourhood
and camp out in the garden of the very house I
was "kicked out" of until someone saw that
I was not able to take care of myself.


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03 May 2010, 4:19 pm

You want to be very strategic and take a series of medium steps. For example, do you have grandparent(s), Aunts, Uncles, maybe an older brother or sister, that staying with them feels like it might be a possibility? If so, think about writing a direct, positive, matter-of-fact letter. for example, 'thinking I'm a little bit cramping my Mom and Dad's space' (see how you might kind of put a positive spin on it?) And say this in the very first paragraph. Please don't save it for the end, that would feel too much like a pounce.

What I've learned about political activism, primarily peace activism, is that if you 3/10's of 1% overstate a case, people will feel that they're being played and resent it. Perhaps shouldn't be that way, but apparently it is. So, if there is mistreatment and/or nonrespect at home (and it sounds like it's not a great situation), perhaps disclose it to a relative, but somewhat understate it, maybe make 80% of the case, and let them extend themselves to fill in the rest. 'There is some tension at home and maybe a break would be good for both my Mom and I' Maybe that kind of approach.

And I've also found what sometimes works for me in times like this is to add free positives to my life. More on that later.



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03 May 2010, 4:57 pm

Okay, about adding free positives.

And it can be something as simple as starting to learn guitar. Anything that reminds you of the good parts of life and allows you to move forward with a project in a generally positive direction.

Or, begin a martial art, yeah, just a little bit of a backup just in case you do get kicked out. The "hard" styles such as karate, just a couple of months, you can learn enough that it might make a difference. The "soft" styles like akido, it takes a couple of years.

I remember wishing that I had suggested to a former girlfriend that we help each other pursue school, business, and a job, all at the same time! (I often replay conversations in my head). That might be too much, really if you're just making positive strides forward in one, two if you can get it. The part you said at the end about getting your crap together and solving your issues, I've done that a number of times in my life and I think that's generally kind of a trap. In different versions, on different occasions, I have thought, if only I could be more something, less mistaken prone, see mistakes in advance, be more perfect . . . well, some life activities by their very nature cannot be done perfectly, this includes relationships, practicing medicine as a doctor, being an artist, etc, etc. Instead, you can kind of ping-pong it back and forth, even a seeming mistake gives information and you move forward from that point (like a doctor trying a broad-spectrum antibiotic, and if that doesn't work, he or she tries another; I am not a doctor, but I still think about being a medical research or a medical journalist). At a lot of lower level jobs there is only neutral and below, or that's the way it's too often looked at. If you're a cashier, you can develop skills of fast, friendly, engaged service, and that does increase the chance a customer comes back. But, you're likely to have a disengaged boss, say a 50-50 chance, who only sees "mistakes" and "problems."

Perhaps joining a computer club, and seeing what's cutting edge and what people are talking about right now? Perhaps volunteer work, which has a long lead time of application, orientation, training (kind of going corporate model!) No, you're not making any money and I realize you probably need to be making money. But, you're out there meeting people, learning new skills. And even when it gets rolling often organizations only ask for a commitment of 10 hours a month (not week), something like them. And just like a regular job, you can always plead "family situation" (without giving more details).

Or, perhaps start pre-studying for courses you are considering taking, and you can do this on your own terms and experiment with different learning styles.

So, please, even during difficult times, I highly recommend that you remain open to free positives.



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03 May 2010, 6:06 pm

I think it may be good for you to move in with your boyfriend. Are you able to do that?



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03 May 2010, 6:25 pm

chaddhuddon wrote:
before i offer any insight from experience, may i ask your age?

I'm 23 . on dissablity with an income that is so low that i cant afford a place and would struggle paying for a rented room.



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03 May 2010, 6:30 pm

Staying with an Aunt and Uncle, an older sister, or an older brother, something like that might work out?



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03 May 2010, 6:32 pm

LostAlien wrote:
I think it may be good for you to move in with your boyfriend. Are you able to do that?


I would really like to but he lives in another country. I could start the immigration process but i know my mom doesn't even want me visiting there. I don't work so England may not let me immigrate.



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03 May 2010, 6:43 pm

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
Okay, about adding free positives.

And it can be something as simple as starting to learn guitar. Anything that reminds you of the good parts of life and allows you to move forward with a project in a generally positive direction.

Or, begin a martial art, yeah, just a little bit of a backup just in case you do get kicked out. The "hard" styles such as karate, just a couple of months, you can learn enough that it might make a difference. The "soft" styles like akido, it takes a couple of years.

I remember wishing that I had suggested to a former girlfriend that we help each other pursue school, business, and a job, all at the same time! (I often replay conversations in my head). That might be too much, really if you're just making positive strides forward in one, two if you can get it. The part you said at the end about getting your crap together and solving your issues, I've done that a number of times in my life and I think that's generally kind of a trap. In different versions, on different occasions, I have thought, if only I could be more something, less mistaken prone, see mistakes in advance, be more perfect . . . well, some life activities by their very nature cannot be done perfectly, this includes relationships, practicing medicine as a doctor, being an artist, etc, etc. Instead, you can kind of ping-pong it back and forth, even a seeming mistake gives information and you move forward from that point (like a doctor trying a broad-spectrum antibiotic, and if that doesn't work, he or she tries another; I am not a doctor, but I still think about being a medical research or a medical journalist). At a lot of lower level jobs there is only neutral and below, or that's the way it's too often looked at. If you're a cashier, you can develop skills of fast, friendly, engaged service, and that does increase the chance a customer comes back. But, you're likely to have a disengaged boss, say a 50-50 chance, who only sees "mistakes" and "problems."

Perhaps joining a computer club, and seeing what's cutting edge and what people are talking about right now? Perhaps volunteer work, which has a long lead time of application, orientation, training (kind of going corporate model!) No, you're not making any money and I realize you probably need to be making money. But, you're out there meeting people, learning new skills. And even when it gets rolling often organizations only ask for a commitment of 10 hours a month (not week), something like them. And just like a regular job, you can always plead "family situation" (without giving more details).

Or, perhaps start pre-studying for courses you are considering taking, and you can do this on your own terms and experiment with different learning styles.

So, please, even during difficult times, I highly recommend that you remain open to free positives.


I find going out difficult. I am trying to get my medical issues sorted out. i need to get a few things checked out and do physical therapy for my back. I am trying to focus on that first so i can get it all done one at a time without getting overwhelmed.

I dont know why but i cant do much without getting very stressed and overwhelmed. i had this problem since about age 12. i cant do to much house work cant go out much or anything like that. but i am trying my best to get sorted somehow. i am worried how i will take care of myself.

they haven't told me they want to kick me out but my moms therapist told me that "your parents are only going to put up with so much of you until they finally have enough! What plans do you have? why don't you do anything? your not trying."

My mom keeps asking if there are any apartments I can afford. Telling me i should visit my sister in Ohio so i can get used to being there.

My sister dosent want me living with her and i cant afford to live on my own. nor can i cope on my own. i don't drive because i black out and i have trouble going out much.

I am trying to do more but if i do i end up having meltdowns and i am breaking down mentally as it is. oh i don't know what to do i don't think there is anything that can be done.



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03 May 2010, 6:45 pm

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
Staying with an Aunt and Uncle, an older sister, or an older brother, something like that might work out?


None of my siblings will work out but i do have and aunt and an uncle i haven't burnt bridges with yet. I don't know either of them but i think they would take me in.



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03 May 2010, 6:59 pm

Okay, that therapist just doesn't sound very good at all. And please don't let her be a distraction.

Okay, I get stressed out, too, doing my taxes (keep putting off, putting off, and perfectionizing) Social things, sometimes, in medium steps. Although often I need to take a long walk afterwards. And I love to write. I remember reading in Bertrand Russell's autobiography (who was probably Aspie, maybe not, and either way is fine, he definitely marched to his own drummer) that for one of his friends, something didn't feel real until he wrote it down. And that's kind of me!

Your posts are heartfelt and good. You definitely have things to contribute.

It's finding your way in a world which is over-controlled (?), maybe sure, overly normalist, probably . . . And a lot of people struggle. In fact, one of the political slogans I'm developing is "Aspie, 'Normal,' Different in Different Ways, All of Us Together, As Human Beings . . . " And the reason I put 'Normal' in quotes is because no one is truly 'normal' (and how boring would it be if it were)

yeah, the health problems, esp with your back, that sounds important. Doctors often aren't great listeners. But you want to find someone who's at least a halfway good listener. I've had success with writing medical things on a piece of paper, three things in clear declarative, straightforward sentences (because often doctors don't have patience for more than that) and then just handing the piece of paper to the doctor. It doesn't always work, but usually it does.


I hope you don't mind me giving your advice. Your situation reminds me of when my Dad threatened to kick me out at age 18 and when I was struggling with obsessive-compulsive disorder. Still struggle with OCD some, but have developed some tricks and a sense of humor about the whole thing. And I'm a valued human being even with OCD, in fact, in some situations it can play to strength. So please take the advice you like and leave the rest.



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03 May 2010, 7:01 pm

just-me wrote:
. . . but i do have and aunt and an uncle i haven't burnt bridges with yet. I don't know either of them but i think they would take me in.

Maybe just begin correspondence with the aunt and uncle, and shorter letters to begin with?



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03 May 2010, 7:07 pm

I'm sorry you're going through this. I don't have much advice but I feel for you and how helpless and alone you must feel.

The two ideas I'll throw out there:

1) Is there any type of subsidized housing for the disabled where you are?

2) Could you "move" to an area of the house where there'd be less interaction with your parents?



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03 May 2010, 8:32 pm

I live with my aunt. It is not as confortable as living at your own house but if you can´t pay the rent of your own apartment that seems to be the only way. I left home beacuse I couldn´t stand living there. :( . Sorry you are going through this.



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03 May 2010, 9:07 pm

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
Okay, that therapist just doesn't sound very good at all. And please don't let her be a distraction..
I thought she wasn't either. thank you for validating me on that fact. Actually really needed some reassuring on that fact. because she left me feeling like i was the worst person in the world. I kept thinking she must be right because she is a therapist. But then i knew what she was saying about me was wrong. but then i worried i was in denial. i kept going back and forth in my mind, and worrying its my fault that I'm lazy so i deserve to be homeless. she really messes with my head every time i talk to her.

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
Your posts are heartfelt and good. You definitely have things to contribute.
thank you so much that really means so much to me!

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
I hope you don't mind me giving your advice. Your situation reminds me of when my Dad threatened to kick me out at age 18 and when I was struggling with obsessive-compulsive disorder. Still struggle with OCD some, but have developed some tricks and a sense of humor about the whole thing. And I'm a valued human being even with OCD, in fact, in some situations it can play to strength. So please take the advice you like and leave the rest.


I don't mind advice at all. I could use all the advice I can get.
I have OCD really bad and after my mom almost died several times in the hospital this year it got worse. i had to stay in the hospital room with mom to make sure the nurses did kill her through incompetency. And believe me it took all my guts and social skills to get the nurse to help me when my mom was going critical. the nurse did not notice but she ended up in ICU that night and had alot of bad stuff happen to her just from a simple mistake they made.

I literally had to keep and eye on the nurses and make sure they were doing everythign correctly.
This was not good for my checking OCD compulsion which exploded after she got out of the hospital.

But it was my OCD that helped keep her alive . If I wasn't so obsessed with details, perfection and checking things are right. And I wasn't so observant like monk off of that show Monk, I would have missed things the nurses were doing wrong and my mom would be dead.

I think one of the driving things behind my mom hinting at me moving out is that we cant pay the mortgage and eventually we may lose the house due to foreclosure.

And my dad is going to close the business so they wont have any money coming in except me and moms disability checks.