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14 Feb 2015, 5:38 pm

This is Connor, a.k.a. The Gift, formerly known as Giftorcurse. I apologize for not being on the forums lately, because I've earned the wrath of the Kiwi Farms, formerly known as the CWCki Forums.
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Originally created to keep tabs on the infamous Christian Weston Chandler, it has since moved on to the harassment, humiliation, and borderline-cyberstalking of individuals they dub "lolcows". I happen to be one of those individuals. I thought they were friendly at first, but guess what? They stabbed me in the back like the bastards that they are. Hell, they've even dedicated an entire lolcow thread to WrongPlanet itself! I've contacted Alex Plank to notify him of this. I'm afraid that this will devolve into an Internet disaster the likes of which we've never seen. To make matters worse, I'm certain members of the Kiwi Farms have already infiltrated this site.



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14 Feb 2015, 5:41 pm

Ugh. I've heard of this forum before. It's awful.



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14 Feb 2015, 5:43 pm

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Ugh. I've heard of this forum before. It's awful.

Some of the residents there are sick puppies, real lowlifes. I'd stay away from it, if I were you.



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14 Feb 2015, 8:56 pm

I went and looked at it after you posted about it in Random. It doesn't seem to be very important, it's just a group of people bitching about another group of people. I saw the WP thread. So? It doesn't hurt anything. What would Alex want to do about it? Sue them for saying something unpleasant about his forum? He can't do that, people have a right to their opinions. It's not going to be some "internet disaster". It's nothing, really.

I know it offended you that they put up a thread about you. They can do that though, so stop going back there. It did seem to be against their rules though, it said don't make a thread about members, you were a member and they made a thread about you. I guess they just played you along or something and then made it, so you weren't really an actual member in their minds, I don't know.

It's easier said than done, but ignore them. The more you obsess over it, the more you are doing exactly what they want. Your obsessing over it is funny to them, and it's also not a very good character trait anyway. I'd suggest you get some help with it, and I'm not saying that in a smarmy way I'm being serious.

It's not going to help your feelings, but you need to at least logically put it in perspective. Ask yourself "What impact will this have on my actual day to day life ?" I'm not talking about your internet stuff or hobby stuff, I'm talking about your actual real life. It's not going to have any impact on it. It may impact your feelings but you can easily avoid seeing it if you choose to do that. If you don't see it then it can't impact your feelings. I'm sure my response will be unpopular but there really is nothing you can do about it so your choices are to either ignore it and stop going there and let it peter out or continue going there, complaining about it, obsessing over it and posting there and here about it and giving them more stuff to laugh at.

Also, I don't see a problem with someone being a member there and one here. You don't have to be a member here to see everything. You can see everything but the members section if you are just browsing around. Someone from there posting here isn't causing a problem unless they are making fun of somebody and in that case they will be told on, talked to by mods, have their post removed and probably banned.

Nobody can stop another person from finding them funny or disliking them. Nobody can stop someone else from making fun of them, except in certain areas and situations. it's just a fact of life. I've been made fun of plenty of times when I was a kid and also as a teenager before I learned what I was doing wrong and how to change it. I'm not saying it was ok for them to do it but it stopped when I quit giving them ammunition.

My advice is to not go back there and to stop talking about it. Eventually you will stop thinking about it once you stop talking about it for a while. Nothing bad will happen because of this, except what you allow to happen or cause to happen to yourself because of it. I'd stay away from there if I were you.


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14 Feb 2015, 9:10 pm

I'm sorry this has happened to you. I never heard of the forum before but found you there at the top of the list. I'd agree with Olive about not going back there. Trolls, like bullies, tend to give up when people don't respond to them. I imagine that would be very hard to do. Even this thread gives them attention and affirms their behaviour, but I totally understand needing to talk about that *somewhere*.



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14 Feb 2015, 9:19 pm

Sounds like the kinda of a**holes I had to deal with on myspace for a while...they actually did follow me and a couple other people to some other sites trying to start crap. It is sort of funny they'll talk all kinds of crap about how you're a loser or a 'basement dweller' when chances are people who do that are loser basement dwellers...I mean I have a hard time believing someone with a life who contributes anything to the world would waste so much time being toxic on the internet. The ones I dealt with lost interest eventually. I know that can be infuriating, but try not to let it get under your skin too much and don't bother trying to argue with them ...that's what they want. I tried that....uhh just was a big waste of my time and energy but they like to try and get to a person so you'll rage at them and then they blow it out of proportion to make you look bad.


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14 Feb 2015, 9:21 pm

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I mean I have a hard time believing someone with a life who contributes anything to the world would waste so much time being toxic on the internet.


This, forever. :cheers:



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14 Feb 2015, 9:23 pm

they're all talk, aren't they? log out, and see how much they torment your real life, then.

people say s**t on the internet. people are nasty. it's the way it is. is it pleasant? hell no! but it is inevitable. make the whole of the internet as attack-free as this forum (or at least how it strives to be), and the 'mods' will be ripping their hairs out, driven absofuckinglutely mad trying to keep up with it all.

i lurked through that thread. some of the advice there is legit. and yes, there are some nasty people, those wasting their time vegetating in front of the screen trolling like sweetleaf said.

but lingering there will not help you either. either way, sorry you're going through this. you are never the only one.


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I'm certain members of the Kiwi Farms have already infiltrated this site.


i know one has, and i banned him. far cry from a 'war' between that site and this one.


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14 Feb 2015, 9:31 pm

So, this is The Haven so it's hard to reply to this in maybe... a better way than I am able to here.

But I will say this:
It's basically a forum that is centered around trolling people and picking apart ideas, websites, people, whatever passes anyone's path who has some time to kill.

So what I'm saying is that, in this context [don't read into it too much]? You aren't that special. As recommended above- the more you take it personally, the more joy you give whoever is trying to poke you to get a response. [though it may flare for a bit at first]

As for infiltration, this isn't some "covert operation" on the deep web or whatever. It's a game.
So, I mean... they could try to take down Wrong Planet, in theory... but then they lose the vast amusement riches that WP [apparently] provides them with.

So, maybe they come here and act like idiots for a while, but that gets old.
I'm sorry this is happening. Sucks.

People suck sometimes. You can block the site at the router though, and that might help resist the temptation to check it out?

[I hope this was within the bounds of more helpful than not, I never have the hang of this place]

Anyway, I hope things clear up soon- whatever that might look like.


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14 Feb 2015, 9:40 pm

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some of the advice there is legit.


True. I think a lot of the nastiness is just frustration because they tried to help and they think you're throwing it back in their faces.

It's just people having a laugh on a website; don't take it to heart.


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14 Feb 2015, 10:42 pm

Do yourself a favor: stay away from the other site. Pursue your writing. Live in the real world. If you do so you'll gain the victory over these idiots.



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14 Feb 2015, 11:05 pm

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some of the advice there is legit.


True. I think a lot of the nastiness is just frustration because they tried to help and they think you're throwing it back in their faces.

It's just people having a laugh on a website; don't take it to heart.


Truth be told, I wouldn't accept advice either if it was coming from the participants of a thread purposed to belittle me.



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14 Feb 2015, 11:08 pm

I read the WP thread and it seems like half the poster were saying they were on the spectrum and they seem to be more attacking you in it and certain specific views, I don't know what you did or what they find amusing about you that they'd follow you from site to site but I'd suggest not interacting with them or giving them a reaction if they really bother you. You can't control what they say or do so all you can really do is just ignore it and move on, if they keep messing with then it really just reflects on them and makes them look like weirdos for obsessing about you.

They called this forum enablist but it is support forum and I think as well most people follow the mantra of if you don't have anything good to say don't say it at all, we're not chasing people off the forum here as that isn't what this site is about. When I give advice I try to give it as honestly as I can but there are a lot of people out there that don't have anybody to give them that support IRL that others might take for granted so I understand why people look for it here, I don't have that many people in my life that I can lean either.



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14 Feb 2015, 11:17 pm

SignOfLazarus wrote:
So, this is The Haven so it's hard to reply to this in maybe... a better way than I am able to here.

But I will say this:
It's basically a forum that is centered around trolling people and picking apart ideas, websites, people, whatever passes anyone's path who has some time to kill.

So what I'm saying is that, in this context [don't read into it too much]? You aren't that special. As recommended above- the more you take it personally, the more joy you give whoever is trying to poke you to get a response. [though it may flare for a bit at first]

As for infiltration, this isn't some "covert operation" on the deep web or whatever. It's a game.
So, I mean... they could try to take down Wrong Planet, in theory... but then they lose the vast amusement riches that WP [apparently] provides them with.

So, maybe they come here and act like idiots for a while, but that gets old.
I'm sorry this is happening. Sucks.

People suck sometimes. You can block the site at the router though, and that might help resist the temptation to check it out?

[I hope this was within the bounds of more helpful than not, I never have the hang of this place]

Anyway, I hope things clear up soon- whatever that might look like.


Well I wouldn't say it has much to do with how personally you take it....hell if you don't inform them how personally you have taken it than they don't know and it has no effect on their amusement, but raging at them makes them think you for sure did take it personally so they use it to make more jabs. But yeah best to just pack up and leave any site where you get more harrasment than friendly conversation/support....Its what I had to do with my situation, at first I didn't want to give in and leave myspace forums because I figured that means they 'win'...eventually forums got removed from site anyways but had the not I imagine leaving that garbage can still would have been best. But that doesn't mean they win means they get to stay in their pool of toxcity while you get on with your life.


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14 Feb 2015, 11:19 pm

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some of the advice there is legit.


True. I think a lot of the nastiness is just frustration because they tried to help and they think you're throwing it back in their faces.

It's just people having a laugh on a website; don't take it to heart.


Truth be told, I wouldn't accept advice either if it was coming from the participants of a thread purposed to belittle me.


Yeah, I tend to agree....and sometimes people will flame you and then give somewhat decent advise while still stubtly making fun of you. No use really listening to anything they say if they've already proved they can't respect you as a human being.


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14 Feb 2015, 11:20 pm

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I read the WP thread and it seems like half the poster were saying they were on the spectrum and they seem to be more attacking you in it and certain specific views, I don't know what you did or what they find amusing about you that they'd follow you from site to site but I'd suggest not interacting with them or giving them a reaction if they really bother you. You can't control what they say or do so all you can really do is just ignore it and move on, if they keep messing with then it really just reflects on them and makes them look like weirdos for obsessing about you.

They called this forum enablist but it is support forum and I think as well most people follow the mantra of if you don't have anything good to say don't say it at all, we're not chasing people off the forum here as that isn't what this site is about. When I give advice I try to give it as honestly as I can but there are a lot of people out there that don't have anybody to give them that support IRL that others might take for granted so I understand why people look for it here, I don't have that many people in my life that I can lean either.


Sure its an enabling site in the sense that it enables people to have a support community full of autistics, who get what its like to have autism and experience the world this way. lol.


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