Permanently homeless despite marketable skills

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30 Dec 2020, 11:45 pm

I was a good coder but couldn't hack the process of selling oneself to the world of work. I've completely dropped out of life and spend most of my time camping out in the middle of nowhere chasing silly pursuits like free solo rock climbing, mtbiking, finding crazy remote areas, etc.

At some point my body is going to give out and I'll have nothing to live for. It seems inevitable at this point.



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31 Dec 2020, 1:06 am

Ball wrote:
I was a good coder but couldn't hack the process of selling oneself to the world of work. I've completely dropped out of life and spend most of my time camping out in the middle of nowhere chasing silly pursuits like free solo rock climbing, mtbiking, finding crazy remote areas, etc.

At some point my body is going to give out and I'll have nothing to live for. It seems inevitable at this point.


Join a group of some sort. Perhaps a camping and hiking group or something. I wouldn't recommend totally dropping out of society, although wandering around by yourself in nature can be fun.



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31 Dec 2020, 7:49 pm

Ball wrote:
I was a good coder but couldn't hack the process of selling oneself to the world of work. I've completely dropped out of life and spend most of my time camping out in the middle of nowhere chasing silly pursuits like free solo rock climbing, mtbiking, finding crazy remote areas, etc.

At some point my body is going to give out and I'll have nothing to live for. It seems inevitable at this point.

Sometimes, people with autism need to take a break of a few years. Then they can come back to the fray and be more successful.

So instead of planning to give up... Plan to try again when you feel ready.


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31 Dec 2020, 7:55 pm

16 years isn't a few



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01 Jan 2021, 6:40 am

Code apps? Put something on GitHub or an alternative (or just any one of a number of software sites)?



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01 Jan 2021, 8:38 am

Do you have skills besides coding?



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01 Jan 2021, 9:08 am

I wish I could drop out of society and camp in the wilderness. It sounds like freedom. This sounds ideal to me but I might just be glamourizing what it's like to be homeless. It's too cold in Canada to do this....or perhaps I would. I'd only live outside with a boyfriend that I trusted though. I think it might be too dangerous to be homeless as a woman. I'm talking about it like it's a choice but it might not be a choice for me some day....anyway. Who cares if you leave this world without leaving anything behind. We're all forgotten afterwards eventually anyway. So if you ever talk to anyone while your out there... at least let them remember that you were a nice guy.



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01 Jan 2021, 9:18 am

i'm about halfway to being a hermited woods denizen. basically the only time i see people is on saturdays when i visit with my sister in town after getting groceries for the week.



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01 Jan 2021, 10:17 am

Ball wrote:
16 years isn't a few

Oh, so your coding skills are out of date.

Do you realize that in the intervening 16 years, you have developed substantial skills in outdoors life? Perhaps you could work as a wilderness guide or a leader at a "boot camp" operation. Don't dismiss this out of hand. Give it some thought.


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01 Jan 2021, 10:52 am

That is actually pretty good advice Bea.



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01 Jan 2021, 11:11 am

hey Ball
Sounds like you have been leading a more interesting and free life than most.
Awesome!

Sounds like real freedom.

There is a big part of me that wants to be free of the trappings of the complex world of human interaction constrained by consumer capitalism.

Like the Beat Authors / Beat Generation post ww2. Kind of romantic ideals of dropping out from the post war consumer driven capitalism push which was emphasized by governments which was designed to get everyone into their scheme of maximising profits from as much of society as possible, without any consideration for other aspects of life that many feel are equally if not more important than maximising our slave masters profit margins.

I liked the fact that the original beat authors tried to drop out, after rejecting consumer capitalism while searching for creative, spiritual and intellectual fulfillment and freedom from complexities imposed on them by society.

Jack Kerouac, Alan Ginsberg, Gary Snyder, William Boroughs etc.
All really interesting folk.

Cool. Go for it.
Sounds really fulfilling.



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01 Jan 2021, 11:28 am

BeaArthur wrote:
Ball wrote:
16 years isn't a few

Oh, so your coding skills are out of date.


So you're telling me drivers are no longer written in c/c++, nobody uses python, java, ruby, or PHP. Everybody now uses, what, Haskell?



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01 Jan 2021, 11:29 am

Being a guide is 90% people skills 10% holding your client's dick BTW.



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01 Jan 2021, 11:59 am

Sarahsmith wrote:
I'd only live outside with a boyfriend that I trusted though.


You highlight another problem with my lifestyle in that there aren't any women, lol.

Edit: either an upside or downside depending on your frame of mind



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01 Jan 2021, 5:36 pm

If you have money, or can get a donation, perhaps you can use a library to code online for some company? The outdoor skills could be used for working on an independent farm, there might be a farm commune or an organic farm and hostel that might employ for room and board and/or a wage.

Describe your lifestyle in more detail. Where do you sleep? Money for clothing, showers, etc? Food? Water? Teeth and dental work? Bathroom? Amount of belongings you have and where do you go?



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01 Jan 2021, 5:56 pm

When I was a young lad of about 21, I went down the Grand Canyon on a rubber raft. There were 6 rafts. Each raft had a guide who rowed and steered the raft and four passengers. It was a two week trip and was a lot of fun. The guides handled the boats and prepared the meals. Each one had a special skill. One was a geologist, another was an American Indian, another one was an anthropologist. As we floated down the canyon, they will tell us about the canyon. Of the early pioneers that went before us. They steered us through the rapids.

I thought perhaps I might find romance during the trip. There were several eligible young ladies on the trip. But they were all drawn to the boat guides. They had massive muscles because of rowing. They were well tanned because they spent their lives outdoors. And they were much more interesting that the other males on the trip.

So I think you have earned several skills, several survival skills. And there is only one more skill to be learned - that of a story teller.


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