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05 Apr 2010, 1:19 am

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Hi Darrell, I'm awake again for a while. It's 2am here.

I wrote to my friend about you. She's a PhD psychologist. She says you need to talk to the person who prescribed the Risperdal.

Darrell, I have tried to stick with you as long as I was awake, I googled things that might help you, I even prayed a rosary for you. Listen to me, please: there is only one place that you will be safe, and that's the hospital. Call 911 and they will take you.

What happens if you stay where you are? Everything goes on the same.
What happens if you call 911? They will take you to a safe place where you can rest.
If you don't like it, you can leave, because you went voluntarily.
It's really, really worth a try. Please! Do this thing to help yourself, it will work.


I dont think I actually met the first person that prescribed the risperidon. I went to the emergency room my mother took me there for 24 hour observation and they gave me the pill and a prescription to take to the pharmacisist for a weeks worth. then I whent to my doctor and got the prescription for a full months worth. the psycologist I am seeing right now did not prescribe it to me. I dont even know who originally prescribed it to me. I think it was somone called tiffiny gromlich . I looked at the name so many times that I actually remember it. I didnt have bad problems with the risperidone exept it made it hard to stand/walk once I got to the two pills twice a day. it was the celexa that I had a problem with it hurting really bad and I got it from the current psychologist and he said that I had bad side effects from it. I hope that I dont have to go to prison for the rest of my life.



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05 Apr 2010, 4:37 am

Do you still have the bottles for the Risperdal and/or Celexa?



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05 Apr 2010, 10:29 am

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Do you still have the bottles for the Risperdal and/or Celexa?
yes I dont have anymore of the risperdal pills but I have some of the celexa pills I still have the bottles for both



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05 Apr 2010, 11:12 am

-get bottles and sit by phone with phone book, paper and' pen
-the doctor's name is on bottle at the bottom.
-look up doc's phone number, write it down in case you need it again.
-phone doctor who is probably with a client or took the day off
-leave a message, you could say "This is urgent-please call me" and say your name and number.

then rest a bit - that was a lot of doing. when you feel like you could keep going, take the Celexa bottle, look and see if it's the same doctor. if yes, put the bottle down and forget about it.

the last thing to do is phone your psychologist. i hope all this doesn't make you nervous - you'll only be talking machines.



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05 Apr 2010, 1:03 pm

You know Darrell, it doesnt make you a bad person to look at porn. It doesnt make you bad to have a lot of porn. Even if you are addicted to it, it doesn't make you a bad person. Child stuff is illegal, of course, and you should seek help if that is your thing.

I honestly think you feel bad about whatever happened when you were a teenage. It could have been just a sexual experimentation for all I know, and you feel bad about it. If you were two kids experimenting then it isn't against the law anyway, so all this about a trial would be untrue in that case anyway.

Maybe your mind is fabricating these things because you feel bad. I am not saying you are crazy either.. I have not been saying you are crazy. Seeing things or hearing things that are not there is not crazy- it is just called being ill, and there is help out there for you.

I am mentally ill myself, supposedly, but I no one is locking me up.

You are not a criminal.

If I was your neighbor messing with you I would be saying what they are saying, but I am telling you the opposite of what they are saying.

Do you still take any of the medications right now? If so, which ones?



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05 Apr 2010, 1:46 pm

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You know Darrell, it doesnt make you a bad person to look at porn. It doesnt make you bad to have a lot of porn. Even if you are addicted to it, it doesn't make you a bad person. Child stuff is illegal, of course, and you should seek help if that is your thing.

I honestly think you feel bad about whatever happened when you were a teenage. It could have been just a sexual experimentation for all I know, and you feel bad about it. If you were two kids experimenting then it isn't against the law anyway, so all this about a trial would be untrue in that case anyway.

Maybe your mind is fabricating these things because you feel bad. I am not saying you are crazy either.. I have not been saying you are crazy. Seeing things or hearing things that are not there is not crazy- it is just called being ill, and there is help out there for you.

I am mentally ill myself, supposedly, but I no one is locking me up.

You are not a criminal.

If I was your neighbor messing with you I would be saying what they are saying, but I am telling you the opposite of what they are saying.

Do you still take any of the medications right now? If so, which ones?

invega and clonazepam



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05 Apr 2010, 2:13 pm

Well I think that theory of you guilt causing yu to hear things is not very practical here. Invega is a drug used to treat schizophrenia. Have you been diagnosed with this condition? If so, you could be having this issue of hearing the voices and all (I know you don't believe me when I tell you that you are hearing things) because the Invega is not as effective as it was before.

If it was prescribed for Autism then your doctor should know a little more why it could be doing this. Bottom line- the meds are not as effective as they should be. The Risperidone was prescribed for you for the same reason as the Invega, more than likely, so the doc switched you for some reason- maybe side effects?

All psychotropic drugs run the risk of becoming ineffective so that you need a larger dose. It could be you need more of the Invega. Also, it could be that the clonazepam reduces the amount of Invega in your bloodstream. There is that risk when talking more than one mind altering medicine.

If you get a medicine adjustment and you stop hearing these people it will prove to you that there was no/ ins no trial. If I am wrong then it should also disprove my theory.

SO there is no harm- only help in going to the hospital.



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05 Apr 2010, 4:47 pm

hears a link to what they have 99% acomplished in me. http://www.atsa.com/ppantiandro.html



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05 Apr 2010, 5:09 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiandrogen:
Antiandrogen drugs

They don't use anti-psychotics for that. You were given anti-psychotics because you had unhealthy thought pattern of some type. I have taken them for racing thoughts. I used to take Risperidol. If you noticed your testes shrinking after taking it then it may have been a very rare side effect. In that case, a doctor could not have anticipated such a thing and would not use it "off-label" for that purpose (chemical castration).

I know this is a personal question, but I don't know you so need to be ashamed. What exactly do you think you did as a teen- specifically. No names or anything. How old was the other person and what did you do? I wont judge- I just have a feeling you didn't even do anything punishable and I want to get that out of the way once and for all.



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05 Apr 2010, 5:28 pm

im afraid to say it cause there watching. all I can say is what I have read its a crime and that is all all say. I made a mistake thinking that it was just experementation. I didnt know that it was a crime and because of my porn addiction and some upset words about people who are against my likeing dojinshi and anime porn that I watched with my anime obsession I think that they think I am an A number one risk factor. It made me so mad to find out that people where being arrested because of drawings. I may have made a threat saying that they should bring the swat team to get me cause I would fight and that I would bite somones nose off. But I only typed it and I Was really upset at the time that dirty drawing where made into a crime.



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05 Apr 2010, 6:19 pm

I have to mention that my life for the past couple of days has been this thread. I cant help but sleep then come back hoping that somone is a lawer and knows for a fact that no trial could have happened and more than that that no person by the name of darrell is on the roster to be brought to court in sthelens oregon. I just pray that there is an awnser that proves 0nce and for all that there is no trial and there is not threat of one emenently.



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05 Apr 2010, 6:48 pm

HelloMed, they are not allowed to try to chemically castrate anyone who has not consented to be chemically castrated. The website you linked to even states this:
...As with any treatment intervention, appropriate informed consent must be obtained when anti-androgen therapy is implemented.
Remember, there cannot have been a trial without your knowledge and participation, your mother cannot plea on your behalf or agree to a plea bargain on your behalf, you cannot be deemed legally incompetent without your knowledge and participation and you cannot be presecribed anti-androgen therapy without your knowledge and consent. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying or mistaken.



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05 Apr 2010, 7:08 pm

the site I think was talking about ethics on the advocate side of things not on the oregon the most likly to do it that way. I have read that my home state of oregon is one of the last to give up on eugenics and there is still a faction today that tryes to get some sort of law passed to sterilize people. Oregon was always heavy on the eugenics movment and even it is said that portland oregon is a heaven for neo nazi's. this makes me scared.



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05 Apr 2010, 7:25 pm

HelloMeD wrote:
the site I think was talking about ethics on the advocate side of things not on the oregon the most likly to do it that way. I have read that my home state of oregon is one of the last to give up on eugenics and there is still a faction today that tryes to get some sort of law passed to sterilize people. Oregon was always heavy on the eugenics movment and even it is said that portland oregon is a heaven for neo nazi's. this makes me scared.

It need not concern you. Even in Oregon this medication must be administered by a registered physician. Registered physicians must maintain certain standards in order to remain registered, including respecting your right to consent. Even in Oregon they cannot under any circumstances administer chemical castration without the knowledge of the patient. No one anywhere in the US may administer chemical castration without the knowledge of the patient. It is illegal and it would be illegal for the courts to participate in such activities.

There has been no trial. That is a fact.



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05 Apr 2010, 7:43 pm

Darrell I have a feeling whatever you did in the past is not even provable. Even if the other participant were to come forward and say that you forced them, too much time has gone by and there is not proof. Have you looked up applicable laws at all on the Internet? The information must be available.

The only porn that is illegal is child porn, and when it comes to hentai or dojinshi, well, it has to be very obvious it is a kid. Most of that stuff has adults in it unless you are talking about some seriously underground stuff, and the FBI would have sites like that under watch. You would have been busted already if this is what you were talking about.

Quote:
2001 OR H.B. 2359 –
RS § 131.125
Oregon
Prosecution for rape in the 1st – 3rd degree may be commenced within six years
after the commission of the crime.

From
http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/sexual_assault_statutes.pdf

I would like to add that I do not have sympathy for rapists or child molesters. I really dont believe that you are in that category, and that is why I have been helping you Darrell. I think you were probably experimenting, as you had thought, and maybe someone told you it was a crime. Of course, that someone may not be a real person. I am giving you information because I think you need medical help more than legal help, and if proving to you that you are not in trouble will get you to the doctor than I will find legal help the best way I can- by doing research.
You can get a legal consultation for free from a local lawyer, too. They will be honest, and if there really is a need for a lawyer you can hire them. You will have to disclose to them exactly what you did, though. That is part of the deal. They have to know everything.



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05 Apr 2010, 8:55 pm

I am a virgin I have never put my male part in any orfice of any person what so ever. I am not a rapist therefore. I havent done anything like rape. i have experemented with people. the first time I have ever had any experementation like event was whene I was in edgfeild and one of the things we did was have a dare session every night before we went to sleep in the room that we shared. one of them dared me to suck his dick. I was only 8 or 9 then and They where a little older. I also had flashing sessions with the girl that was in the naiboring room just across from our room. I didnt realize people had feeling until I started to hit puberty in full force in junior high. but I had puberty earlyer than most. at around 11 years old. I got really fat and was in a deep depression all the way through to the middle of highschool. in highschool I didnt talk to anybody exept teachers. I didnt know that I was hurting anybody I didnt know what I was doing was a crime. I thought that anything under 18 was alright if you where under 18 too. I didnt know that it was a crime. I didn know that I was hurting anybody. I didnt know. but they look at me and think that I am a big threat because I look at porn as an adult and that proves that I am a threatt. the worst part is that they implanted me with a device that lets them mesure erections. they used that to see if I reacted to childeren in public. I only started to react whene I realized what they where doing. I never reacted until they started doing the test and I knew that they could tell. I know that you are going to say that I am crazy but whene You are doing your thing at home and sombody makes an extasy noise the moment you get to "that point"outside your window a couple times you get the drift that they can tell what state you are in.