Framework for Care of Upset Person

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I don't do CBT so I don't need to be trained on it.
I believe those who wrote this are specialists on it. Challenging patient's beliefs happen in safe, structured settings and require patient's cooperation before they start.

I didn't know that people could shut off signatures just for certain threads? I thought if you turn them off, they disappear from all threads? Or do you mean people should manually delete (backspace) their signature when in The Haven?

I don't use a signature so maybe I've got this all confused.

I didn't know that people could shut off signatures just for certain threads? I thought if you turn them off, they disappear from all threads? Or do you mean people should manually delete (backspace) their signature when in The Haven?

I don't use a signature so maybe I've got this all confused.

I didn't know that people could shut off signatures just for certain threads? I thought if you turn them off, they disappear from all threads? Or do you mean people should manually delete (backspace) their signature when in The Haven?  I don't use a signature so maybe I've got this all confused.

It does seem a little ironic that BR seems upset and the methodology at the beginning of the Topic isn't being used, and that a conversation about caring turns into a fight.

As someone who doesn't get a lot of time to spend on here and doesn't have history with anyone I'm disappointed by how the conversation is going.

BR, you do come off as passionate, and also antagonistic (at least in this thread). I get that you have some strongly held views that make perfect sense to you and that you have thought about a lot. I happen to be quite interested in diet, exercise, hormones, receptors, etc. currently. However, I can't think what outcome you're trying to achieve though. If it is to change people's minds and have them agree with you, then a perceived aggressive approach is unlikely to have that effect. If it is to win a conversation and be right, well, I'm not sure there's much value in that, even if it were possible. If you're seeking validation for your perspective, well, putting it out there is ok but maybe people just don't agree with you, or don't understand it and don't care to. Text can be an amazing communication mechanism but rarely when someone is angry. Repeating the same message/argument in slightly different ways doesn't usually change anyone's mind either; not pleasantly. A super technical and hard to read/understand perspective isn't useful either. I know I wouldn't be able to have a specific in depth discussion about brain chemistry and depression and how it may or may not might be changed in specific ways by doing specific things. Just because I couldn't do that doesn't make me an idiot. You might be right, you might be wrong, how would I know? Also, what works for one person doesn't universally have the same effect for everyone. Things are complicated and I personally distrust anyone who 'has the answer' and doesn't approach a conversation with the humility that they might be wrong. I get that you're upset how you've been treated. What outcome do you expect/want the way you've been going about the conversation to have? I hope you don't feel attacked by what I've written; I'm genuinely confused by your behaviour and how it is likely to end in a positive outcome. Is it that this conversation is a hangover from some other conversation that has upset you previously? As I said, I'm confused.

It's quite clear that some people are annoyed by BR and his views and the way he goes about expressing them. You could just ignore BR. Nobody is forcing you to reply, agree, or engage with him in any way. Some of the behaviour has fed the flames as it were and seems as though it was intended to score points. Just seems a pointless waste of time, bandwidth, and storage.

This message is probably a waste of time too. I'd just like to ask everyone feeling irate to check yourselves.

You can turn off your signature in a specific post.
I understand, Fnord's suggestion is to always turn them off in The Haven and FXE's idea is - maybe it's possible to disable signatures in The Haven by default or even force hide them by the administrator.

Well, I don't do CBT either. But fundamental principles which are foundation of mental health you say against mainstream psychology are part of it.

magz, fnord, BeaArthur and FXE consistently attack me over my approach and create drama, that's all. Their tiny mean clique is what causes all the trouble every time.

Can you name these "fundamental principles which are foundation of mental health"?
Hint: making a person uncomfortable to force them to change is not one of them.

The only concern I have about requiring them to be turned off manually is in a community of people where executive function issues are the norm it might be really hard to find a balance between accommodating that issue and enforcing the rule adequately.

BeaArthur hasn't participated in any of the threads you've been trying to refight the battles that led to your break from the forum. I'm sorry you didn't like the outcome you got last time but making up a list of your detractors to collect and antagonize in hopes you'll get a better outcome probably isn't going to get you the outcome you'd like.

We already had this discussion in "biopsychosocial model" thread.

And I'm not making a person uncomfortable, I'm reframing what this person feels uncomfortable about. That's a huuuuuuuuuuge difference you don't understand because you have only surface level grasp in this area.

We already had this discussion in "biopsychosocial model" thread.

And I'm not making a person uncomfortable, I'm reframing what this person feels uncomfortable about. That's a huuuuuuuuuuge difference you don't understand because you have only surface level grasp in this area.

Who is "FXE"?