Can they have a trial behind your back

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05 Apr 2010, 9:25 pm

Ok -first, was the act that you think might be criminal with someone around your age - how close to your age was he or she?

Second- looking at porn or anime, even the hardcore hentai, does not make you a deviant or criminal. A lot of people look at that. It isn't illegal and it isn't an indicator of anything really. It does not make you more likely to be a child molester or rapist. If anyone said that they are just uptight.

Third- I don't think I can convince you that you were never implanted, but you weren't. Even if you were, it would not be admissible in court. Lie detector tests and voice recordings are not admissible, so that would not be, as it is unknown technology that no one could prove was accurate.

Fourth- If 1st-3rd degree rape has only a 6 year statute of limitation, don't you think whatever experimenting/touching you did would be less?

Fifth- No one can be arrested or tried for "dirty thoughts". Even in your distressed state right now, I think you understand that, right?



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05 Apr 2010, 9:42 pm

the statute of limitations is until the 'victim' is 24 in the cases of anybody under age 18

they keep suggesting that I have been convicted of child molestation or somthin like that.



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05 Apr 2010, 9:42 pm

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I am a virgin I have never put my male part in any orfice of any person what so ever. I am not a rapist therefore. I havent done anything like rape. i have experemented with people. the first time I have ever had any experementation like event was whene I was in edgfeild and one of the things we did was have a dare session every night before we went to sleep in the room that we shared. one of them dared me to suck his dick. I was only 8 or 9 then and They where a little older. I also had flashing sessions with the girl that was in the naiboring room just across from our room. I didnt realize people had feeling until I started to hit puberty in full force in junior high. but I had puberty earlyer than most. at around 11 years old. I got really fat and was in a deep depression all the way through to the middle of highschool. in highschool I didnt talk to anybody exept teachers. I didnt know that I was hurting anybody I didnt know what I was doing was a crime. I thought that anything under 18 was alright if you where under 18 too. I didnt know that it was a crime. I didn know that I was hurting anybody. I didnt know. but they look at me and think that I am a big threat because I look at porn as an adult and that proves that I am a threatt. the worst part is that they implanted me with a device that lets them mesure erections. they used that to see if I reacted to childeren in public. I only started to react whene I realized what they where doing. I never reacted until they started doing the test and I knew that they could tell. I know that you are going to say that I am crazy but whene You are doing your thing at home and sombody makes an extasy noise the moment you get to "that point"outside your window a couple times you get the drift that they can tell what state you are in.

Absolutely nothing you have described would be considered a crime and the statute of limitations ran out on anything you have mentioned a long time ago. There is absolutely no potential crime mentioned here that you can be charged with.


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05 Apr 2010, 9:46 pm

I cant talk about what I did. I feel too scared to talk about what I did. I dont think I deserve fourty years but they might think I do. I dont understand how they came up with fourty years in the first place. there is just no way that I did anything that would get me fourty years. I am not a rapist and I am not a murder. I never did anything that would get me fourty years period.



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05 Apr 2010, 9:51 pm

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I cant talk about what I did. I feel too scared to talk about what I did. I dont think I deserve fourty years but they might think I do. I dont understand how they came up with fourty years in the first place. there is just no way that I did anything that would get me fourty years. I am not a rapist and I am not a murder. I never did anything that would get me fourty years period.


If you know this then why do you insist that the things you hear are true?

Was the other kid experimenting too? If so there is no crime here.



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05 Apr 2010, 9:54 pm

Please if any party that is connected to this case is wire tapping me please talk to me. type on this forum if you can. just tell me what is going on and why such a sever punishment. please.



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05 Apr 2010, 10:19 pm

I know my last post was lame but I just wish those who I can hear talking in the other room at times would contact me instead of upset me. I know now that it is agenst the law to put a person to trial without letting them be apart of it. they told me nothing about a trial so they cant have had one. I just wish I could get some reassurance that everything was not going to spiral out into some horendous mess with me going to prison for fourty years and all the talk deosnt give me the one awser. what about my indevidual case? what about my particular cercomstances and the legal merit sorrownding it. I keep trying to get a legal Opinion on is it possible in oregon to have a trial behind my back but I havent seen a lawyer in hear to tell me wether or not. I just wish there was a practicing lawyer for oregon that could allay my fears. If anybody that has hit this forum knows please direct them too me please.



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05 Apr 2010, 10:29 pm

HelloMeD wrote:
Please if any party that is connected to this case is wire tapping me please talk to me. type on this forum if you can. just tell me what is going on and why such a sever punishment. please.


Darrell, I don't think anyone could tell you about the punishment, really. All we can do is our best to convince you that this whole thing is just not likely. Pandd and Metal_Man have given you a lot of information that should have given you some relief. Because you insist on believing people who cant be talking about you (people you cant see) instead of the people typing on this forum with real information it is almost impossible to give you any information that can help.

Even if a lawyer got on here and told you they cant have a trial without you knowing about it, I think you would still believe the voices.

I found something online here: http://law.jrank.org/pages/18569/Fair-T ... minal.html

I want you to read this because it outlines your rights to a trial by jury. Having a trial behind your back violates that right.

and this:
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in absentia (in ab-sensh-ee-ah) adj. or adv. phrase. Latin for "in absence," or more fully, in one's absence. Occasionally a criminal trial is conducted without the defendant being present when he/she walks out or escapes after the trial has begun, since the accused has thus waived the Constitutional right to face one's accusers. During the War Crimes trials following World War II, it was employed against Nazis who had committed atrocities and then disappeared, the most famous being Martin Bormann, Hitler's closest aide.


From an online legal dictionary: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictiona ... n+absentia

This article also discusses trial in absentia: http://www.slate.com/id/2084605/
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Trials in absentia are exceedingly rare—most judges and attorneys will never be involved with one. The procedure doesn't jibe with the notion of due process, especially the constitutional right of the accused to confront witnesses. So, judges are careful to make sure that a defendant's absence is truly voluntary, rather than the result of foul play, ill health, or lack of notice, lest they create grounds for an appeal.


If you would go to the hospital with your current medicines you would get much more help and relief than agonizing over a trial that has not occurred. I know you don't like it when I go back to the medical thing, but this is what you need.



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05 Apr 2010, 10:38 pm

And I want to repeat- you can get a lawyer to consult with you in your area. They can tell you what your rights are and if this is possible. You will probably get a lawyer on the phone before an practicing lawyer on this forum sees this thread.

I just done think you will find trial lawyers on a forum of people with Aspergers and other social issues. Lawyers who do trials are good at talking in front of crowds and talking to people in general. Maybe some NT family members read here, but the odds of one being a lawyer and getting to this thread int he next 24 hours are slim. You can probably get up and start calling around law offices in the morning and get an answer by the end of the day.

When the lawyer tells you that there is no trial will you go to the hospital?



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05 Apr 2010, 10:54 pm

You do not need a practicing lawyer to tell you that no trial could have occurred, anyone with rudimentary legal training can tell you this, I have such training and I have told you this. There has not been any trial the likes of which you describe.

It is not permissible to implant things in your body without your consent. There is no technology available capable of doing what you describe in respect of this implant. The closest technology entails an external device that is not portable. The person being tested must stay in the same chair throughout the exam.

Your own beliefs about this issue are self contrary. You claim there has been a trial and you have been sentenced to 40 years but are scared to type what you did for fear that "they" might find out about it. What would that matter if the trial had already happened. Double jeopardy prevents the State from being able to try you again in respect of these issues, so there is no point hiding anything if you genuninely believe a trial has already occurred.

You claim to have gotten 40 years, but either you got 40 years and would be in prison right this minute, or the 40 years is simply untrue.

As you point out, 40 years is simply excessive, to the point of being unbelievable, so you probably should not believe it.

Things that cannot be true
A trial behind your back (cannot happen)
Your mother agreeing to a plea bargain on your behalf (cannot happen)
Chemical castration atttempted without your informed knowledge and consent (cannot happen)
An implant to measure your sexual excitation (cannot happen)
Your neighbours and people passing by your window knowing about these matters and being able to give you the information you claim they are conveying (cannot happen).

You do not need a practicing lawyer to tell you this. The things described by you cannot be happening. They are not lawful, not technologically possible, they are simply not happening as you believe them to be.



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05 Apr 2010, 10:56 pm

thanks pumibel I feel somwhat better. Though it still deosnt rule out that they took the extream mesure of having a trial behind my back it still makes me feel a lot better. by the way I was looking at you avitar and was wondering do you take cat naps? :D



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05 Apr 2010, 11:00 pm

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You do not need a practicing lawyer to tell you that no trial could have occurred, anyone with rudimentary legal training can tell you this, I have such training and I have told you this. There has not been any trial the likes of which you describe.

It is not permissible to implant things in your body without your consent. There is no technology available capable of doing what you describe in respect of this implant. The closest technology entails an external device that is not portable. The person being tested must stay in the same chair throughout the exam.

Your own beliefs about this issue are self contrary. You claim there has been a trial and you have been sentenced to 40 years but are scared to type what you did for fear that "they" might find out about it. What would that matter if the trial had already happened. Double jeopardy prevents the State from being able to try you again in respect of these issues, so there is no point hiding anything if you genuninely believe a trial has already occurred.

You claim to have gotten 40 years, but either you got 40 years and would be in prison right this minute, or the 40 years is simply untrue.

As you point out, 40 years is simply excessive, to the point of being unbelievable, so you probably should not believe it.

Things that cannot be true
A trial behind your back (cannot happen)
Your mother agreeing to a plea bargain on your behalf (cannot happen)
Chemical castration atttempted without your informed knowledge and consent (cannot happen)
An implant to measure your sexual excitation (cannot happen)
Your neighbours and people passing by your window knowing about these matters and being able to give you the information you claim they are conveying (cannot happen).

You do not need a practicing lawyer to tell you this. The things described by you cannot be happening. They are not lawful, not technologically possible, they are simply not happening as you believe them to be.


thank you too pendd I am constantly worryed and I keep coming back I gess just keeping this rolling takes away my unreasonable fear that continues even still. Though I worry about going back to work tomorrow cause I might hear somthing there that will upset me and make this all happen again and I hope all of you will be there for me then too. thank you all.



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05 Apr 2010, 11:25 pm

I am glad you feel better, Darrell. I just hope soon you will be completely reassured that there is no need to keep feeling persecuted.

Cat naps are great- you should try one!



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06 Apr 2010, 12:12 am

pumibel wrote:
I am glad you feel better, Darrell. I just hope soon you will be completely reassured that there is no need to keep feeling persecuted.

Cat naps are great- you should try one!
I feel good now but I still feel the boil of those words that I have heard people say. I feel that there is somthing that I dont understand going on and that is just going to make me fear from time to time. I feel that there is precious little time before whatever is going to occur is going to occur. I pray almost everyday that I dont go to prison. I dont know how things are playing out. I wonder if maby I am being showed mercy. I dont know. I feel that my next door neabors are monitoring me somehow and they respond to what I write. I worry that they are watching me because they dont want me to leave before they get me. I dont know. I am not a threat so there is little else I can feel or think.



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06 Apr 2010, 1:07 am

ooo great It is 11PM and I just go online to look at one of your links pumibel and I hear laughing next door then I refreash the page to see if anybody has written back to my last post and I get a stomp next door. am I crazy that these patterns happen? Why are they doing this? Why do they have to keep watching me. There has been no trial so why? I havent skipped on any bail or anything like that. why is it that they are still watching me so closely.



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06 Apr 2010, 2:06 am

HelloMeD wrote:
hears a link to what they have 99% acomplished in me. http://www.atsa.com/ppantiandro.html


"..As with any treatment intervention, appropriate informed consent must be obtained when anti-androgen therapy is "

None of that describes what you believe is happening to you. You don't have the therapy, the support, the "inclusion" that they describe.

You must be exhausted. Did you sleep at all?