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24 Feb 2016, 11:45 pm

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Don't be a f*****g ass to people in the Haven. If it's ever directed towards me I don't lay down and tolerate it. You don't sound like you even know what depression is. It isn't the same as low self-esteem or negativity. It literally saps your energy and makes it impossible to enjoy activities. You can't think your way out of it. It is physical. To indicate it is something I choose is beyond offensive. I'd smack someone in the face for implying it as I'd smack them for implying cancer is something someone chooses. That's how much it pisses me the f**k off.


For what it's worth, i don't think this comes from not knowing depression, but from the exact opposite. Having been through that time and again means you can spot it in another a mile away, and can also see when they're so stuck in it they can't even tell its going on. And from which comes the feelings and attempt to communicate that for a few, they have tried Everything and even ect won't help, but for some, especially those who haven't exhausted resources, it doesn't Have to be like this and sometimes choices are being made that only perpetuate the cycle.


No. If you had depression you would know that verbal abuse will not make you "snap out of it". It will only make a depressed person extremely angry. Also, if your depression was all about thinking then it isn't the same as my depression. Everything can be going fine in my life and I still feel depressed. Maybe we use the same words for different phenomenon. Just because you've "had it" doesn't give you permission to assume what works for you automatically works for everyone. From my experience most people don't even know what it is that helps. Sometimes depression can just go away mysteriously. It isn't that "positive thinking" makes the depression go away, but that the depression going away makes it possible to "think positive" again. Just because you've recovered doesn't mean you have the wisdom to truly understand how to help anyone. It just doesn't. It especially doesn't help to be abusive as Wilburforce was to Sly. That's what I was reacting to. I don't know why people are even allowed to be abusive in the haven.


I guess I was hospitalised (twice) for no reason then, because I wasn't actually depressed and suicidal. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Could you tell my psychiatrist that I don't need treatment or medication anymore then, since I don't have depression and his diagnosis was apparently wrong? Good thing you know better than anyone else what depression is like to set us all straight. :roll:

It wasn't just "positive thinking" that helped to treat my depression: it was medication, and a change in diet, and a change in lifestyle (exercising more and eating better), and years of talk therapy, and a change in my own attitude (which used to suck and be very negative and self-defeating). All of this stuff took tremendous effort and years of work on my part--it was not easy. BUT IT WORKED. So once again, f**k you for thinking you somehow know better than anyone else what depression is and can tell people their experiences are irrelevant.


Marshall, on the flip side has had to face difficult obstacles in life that you are in all likelihood completely unaware of and probably never had to contend with.

The arrogance.


Was Marshall raped and abused as a child? That was a big source of my depression. "Arrogance" indeed. :roll:


Do you know of Marshall's difficulties in the past in order to adjudicate the strength of either his or yours depression? From what echelon of authority?


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24 Feb 2016, 11:48 pm

this seems like it is getting out of hand

I'll defend wilbur a bit here and say I don't think she was trying to be abusive, she just was reiterating the same old 'power of positive thinking' mantra so many here like to parrot and was stating that there are more than just romantic relationships to be valued which is all fine and true but I think she a bit of a persecution complex and has trouble communicating in a way that isn't condescending which in turn brings attacks back upon her.

I think people need to understand the advice given on this forum is mostly just throwing words out into the void, the reality is you can't solve someone else's issues no matter how rational and correct your advice is so the single most important function of this site is just support and it kind of defeats to point to browbeat someone for venting their depression on here. I feel like the some of those that preach the gospel 'positive thinking' here are more trying avoid reading things that upset them personally rather than actually trying to help. "Just don't do that" is never good advice either for pretty much anything really, if only it were that simple. Perhaps start somewhere more practical and communicate in a less combative manner, this shouldn't be a competition on who has it the worst.



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24 Feb 2016, 11:51 pm

My brother just came from a car accident. Am I depressed? A little I guess, but that is the nature of the beast. It is critical that we all be resilient to some degree and accept the nature that life is indeed in a constant flux.

I get angry too once in a while, but then I think things through and return to a rational frame of thought.


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24 Feb 2016, 11:51 pm

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I guess I was hospitalised (twice) for no reason then, because I wasn't actually depressed and suicidal. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Could you tell my psychiatrist that I don't need treatment or medication anymore then, since I don't have depression and his diagnosis was apparently wrong? Good thing you know better than anyone else what depression is like to set us all straight. :roll:

It wasn't just "positive thinking" that helped to treat my depression: it was medication, and a change in diet, and a change in lifestyle (exercising more and eating better), and years of talk therapy, and a change in my own attitude (which used to suck and be very negative and self-defeating). All of this stuff took tremendous effort and years of work on my part--it was not easy. BUT IT WORKED. So once again, f**k you for thinking you somehow know better than anyone else what depression is and can tell people their experiences are irrelevant.

You started this by being abusive to another person. I'm sure telling you you were, lazy, not trying, and purposely not taking any advice when you were depressed would have helped you. :roll: Especially if the advice was basically "don't be depressed". "think positive" is basically equivalent to "don't be depressed". Why don't you go tell someone with cancer "stop having pain", or "try harder to get better". You also admit you took medication so it wasn't all "will power".



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24 Feb 2016, 11:53 pm

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this seems like it is getting out of hand

I'll defend wilbur a bit here and say I don't think she was trying to be abusive, she just was reiterating the same old 'power of positive thinking' mantra so many here like to parrot and was stating that there are more than just romantic relationships to be valued which is all fine and true but I think she a bit of a persecution complex and has trouble communicating in a way that isn't condescending which in turn brings attacks back upon her.

I think people need to understand the advice given on this forum is mostly just throwing words out into the void, the reality is you can't solve someone else's issues no matter how rational and correct your advice is so the single most important function of this site is just support and it kind of defeats to point to browbeat someone for venting their depression on here. I feel like the some of those that preach the gospel 'positive thinking' here are more trying avoid reading things that upset them personally rather than actually trying to help. "Just don't do that" is never good advice either for pretty much anything really, if only it were that simple. Perhaps start somewhere more practical and communicate in a less combative manner, this shouldn't be a competition on who has it the worst.


It is not so much as a mantra than as mere platitudes.


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24 Feb 2016, 11:54 pm

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this seems like it is getting out of hand

I'll defend wilbur a bit here and say I don't think she was trying to be abusive, she just was reiterating the same old 'power of positive thinking' mantra so many here like to parrot and was stating that there are more than just romantic relationships to be valued which is all fine and true but I think she a bit of a persecution complex and has trouble communicating in a way that isn't condescending which in turn brings attacks back upon her.

I think people need to understand the advice given on this forum is mostly just throwing words out into the void, the reality is you can't solve someone else's issues no matter how rational and correct your advice is so the single most important function of this site is just support and it kind of defeats to point to browbeat someone for venting their depression on here. I feel like the some of those that preach the gospel 'positive thinking' here are more trying avoid reading things that upset them personally rather than actually trying to help. "Just don't do that" is never good advice either for pretty much anything really, if only it were that simple. Perhaps start somewhere more practical and communicate in a less combative manner, this shouldn't be a competition on who has it the worst.


IT WAS NOT JUST POSITIVE THINKING THAT HELPED MY DEPRESSION. How many times do I need to state that? It took f*****g YEARS of WORK. HARD WORK. I had to go through all the things that were dragging me down, talk about all my fears and old wounds and sort them out so they were no longer ruling me. PLus it took years of trying different meds until I found the right ones that worked for me. YEARS of trying one medication after another, dealing with all the various side effects and the disappointments of ones that werent' effective, until I finally found one that worked. IT WAS NOT POSITIVE THINKING.

Jesus f*****g Christ. No one reads my actual words, but you're all happy to judge me without reading what I acutally say. You can all take your positive thinking and shove it.


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24 Feb 2016, 11:56 pm

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I guess I was hospitalised (twice) for no reason then, because I wasn't actually depressed and suicidal. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Could you tell my psychiatrist that I don't need treatment or medication anymore then, since I don't have depression and his diagnosis was apparently wrong? Good thing you know better than anyone else what depression is like to set us all straight. :roll:

It wasn't just "positive thinking" that helped to treat my depression: it was medication, and a change in diet, and a change in lifestyle (exercising more and eating better), and years of talk therapy, and a change in my own attitude (which used to suck and be very negative and self-defeating). All of this stuff took tremendous effort and years of work on my part--it was not easy. BUT IT WORKED. So once again, f**k you for thinking you somehow know better than anyone else what depression is and can tell people their experiences are irrelevant.

You started this by being abusive to another person. I'm sure telling you you were, lazy, not trying, and purposely not taking any advice when you were depressed would have helped you. :roll: Especially if the advice was basically "don't be depressed". "think positive" is basically equivalent to "don't be depressed". Why don't you go tell someone with cancer "stop having pain", or "try harder to get better". You also admit you took medication so it wasn't all "will power".


STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I never called anyone lazy. I JUST TRIED TO SAY THAT TREATMENT IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT WORKED FOR ME, WITH LOTOF EFFORT ON MY PART. f**k OFF!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !


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24 Feb 2016, 11:58 pm

wilburforce wrote:
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this seems like it is getting out of hand

I'll defend wilbur a bit here and say I don't think she was trying to be abusive, she just was reiterating the same old 'power of positive thinking' mantra so many here like to parrot and was stating that there are more than just romantic relationships to be valued which is all fine and true but I think she a bit of a persecution complex and has trouble communicating in a way that isn't condescending which in turn brings attacks back upon her.

I think people need to understand the advice given on this forum is mostly just throwing words out into the void, the reality is you can't solve someone else's issues no matter how rational and correct your advice is so the single most important function of this site is just support and it kind of defeats to point to browbeat someone for venting their depression on here. I feel like the some of those that preach the gospel 'positive thinking' here are more trying avoid reading things that upset them personally rather than actually trying to help. "Just don't do that" is never good advice either for pretty much anything really, if only it were that simple. Perhaps start somewhere more practical and communicate in a less combative manner, this shouldn't be a competition on who has it the worst.


IT WAS NOT JUST POSITIVE THINKING THAT HELPED MY DEPRESSION. How many times do I need to state that? It took f*****g YEARS of WORK. HARD WORK. I had to go through all the things that were dragging me down, talk about all my fears and old wounds and sort them out so they were no longer ruling me. PLus it took years of trying different meds until I found the right ones that worked for me. YEARS of trying one medication after another, dealing with all the various side effects and the disappointments of ones that werent' effective, until I finally found one that worked. IT WAS NOT POSITIVE THINKING.

Jesus f*****g Christ. No one reads my actual words, but you're all happy to judge me without reading what I acutally say. You can all take your positive thinking and shove it.


Sorry to break it to you wilbur, but Jacoby is correct. You are attempting to standardize different life experiences of different individuals and attempt to propose the same solution for each of them, thinking that they will work for each case to the same degree of magnitude. It is not that simple.


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25 Feb 2016, 12:01 am

Deltaville wrote:
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this seems like it is getting out of hand

I'll defend wilbur a bit here and say I don't think she was trying to be abusive, she just was reiterating the same old 'power of positive thinking' mantra so many here like to parrot and was stating that there are more than just romantic relationships to be valued which is all fine and true but I think she a bit of a persecution complex and has trouble communicating in a way that isn't condescending which in turn brings attacks back upon her.

I think people need to understand the advice given on this forum is mostly just throwing words out into the void, the reality is you can't solve someone else's issues no matter how rational and correct your advice is so the single most important function of this site is just support and it kind of defeats to point to browbeat someone for venting their depression on here. I feel like the some of those that preach the gospel 'positive thinking' here are more trying avoid reading things that upset them personally rather than actually trying to help. "Just don't do that" is never good advice either for pretty much anything really, if only it were that simple. Perhaps start somewhere more practical and communicate in a less combative manner, this shouldn't be a competition on who has it the worst.


IT WAS NOT JUST POSITIVE THINKING THAT HELPED MY DEPRESSION. How many times do I need to state that? It took f*****g YEARS of WORK. HARD WORK. I had to go through all the things that were dragging me down, talk about all my fears and old wounds and sort them out so they were no longer ruling me. PLus it took years of trying different meds until I found the right ones that worked for me. YEARS of trying one medication after another, dealing with all the various side effects and the disappointments of ones that werent' effective, until I finally found one that worked. IT WAS NOT POSITIVE THINKING.

Jesus f*****g Christ. No one reads my actual words, but you're all happy to judge me without reading what I acutally say. You can all take your positive thinking and shove it.


Sorry to break it to you wilbur, but Jacoby is correct. You are attempting to standardize different life experiences of different individuals and attempt to propose the same solution for each of them, thinking that they will work for each case to the same degree of magnitude. It is not that simple.


I KNOW THAT. I know that the same things won't work for everyone, but I also know that nothing will change at all without effort, whatever solution you try you have to put effort into it and it may take lots of time, but it is still worth it because it can get better, it's possible to be chronically depressed and then not be. THAT WAS ALL I WAS TRYING TO SAY. HELP IS POSSIBLE. THAT"S IT. What the f**k is wrong with you people????


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25 Feb 2016, 12:07 am

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I guess I was hospitalised (twice) for no reason then, because I wasn't actually depressed and suicidal. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Could you tell my psychiatrist that I don't need treatment or medication anymore then, since I don't have depression and his diagnosis was apparently wrong? Good thing you know better than anyone else what depression is like to set us all straight. :roll:

It wasn't just "positive thinking" that helped to treat my depression: it was medication, and a change in diet, and a change in lifestyle (exercising more and eating better), and years of talk therapy, and a change in my own attitude (which used to suck and be very negative and self-defeating). All of this stuff took tremendous effort and years of work on my part--it was not easy. BUT IT WORKED. So once again, f**k you for thinking you somehow know better than anyone else what depression is and can tell people their experiences are irrelevant.

You started this by being abusive to another person. I'm sure telling you you were, lazy, not trying, and purposely not taking any advice when you were depressed would have helped you. :roll: Especially if the advice was basically "don't be depressed". "think positive" is basically equivalent to "don't be depressed". Why don't you go tell someone with cancer "stop having pain", or "try harder to get better". You also admit you took medication so it wasn't all "will power".


STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I never called anyone lazy. I JUST TRIED TO SAY THAT TREATMENT IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT WORKED FOR ME, WITH LOTOF EFFORT ON MY PART. f**k OFF!! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


Take a chillpill. I simply think that the main issue is merely your lack of concern for Marshall's situation and life experience. Cussing at him will not do anyone any good. Start censoring yourself.


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25 Feb 2016, 12:09 am

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I guess I was hospitalised (twice) for no reason then, because I wasn't actually depressed and suicidal. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Could you tell my psychiatrist that I don't need treatment or medication anymore then, since I don't have depression and his diagnosis was apparently wrong? Good thing you know better than anyone else what depression is like to set us all straight. :roll:

It wasn't just "positive thinking" that helped to treat my depression: it was medication, and a change in diet, and a change in lifestyle (exercising more and eating better), and years of talk therapy, and a change in my own attitude (which used to suck and be very negative and self-defeating). All of this stuff took tremendous effort and years of work on my part--it was not easy. BUT IT WORKED. So once again, f**k you for thinking you somehow know better than anyone else what depression is and can tell people their experiences are irrelevant.

You started this by being abusive to another person. I'm sure telling you you were, lazy, not trying, and purposely not taking any advice when you were depressed would have helped you. :roll: Especially if the advice was basically "don't be depressed". "think positive" is basically equivalent to "don't be depressed". Why don't you go tell someone with cancer "stop having pain", or "try harder to get better". You also admit you took medication so it wasn't all "will power".


STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I never called anyone lazy. I JUST TRIED TO SAY THAT TREATMENT IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT WORKED FOR ME, WITH LOTOF EFFORT ON MY PART. f**k OFF!! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


Take a chillpill. I simply think that the main issue is merely your lack of concern for Marshall's situation and life experience. Cussing at him will not do anyone any good. Start censoring yourself.


I already do take pills for my depression which I apparently don't need to take according to you people because I don't have depression or I would understand how hard it is to be depressed. Is that not the right chill pill to take?????????


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25 Feb 2016, 12:10 am

wilburforce wrote:
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I guess I was hospitalised (twice) for no reason then, because I wasn't actually depressed and suicidal. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Could you tell my psychiatrist that I don't need treatment or medication anymore then, since I don't have depression and his diagnosis was apparently wrong? Good thing you know better than anyone else what depression is like to set us all straight. :roll:

It wasn't just "positive thinking" that helped to treat my depression: it was medication, and a change in diet, and a change in lifestyle (exercising more and eating better), and years of talk therapy, and a change in my own attitude (which used to suck and be very negative and self-defeating). All of this stuff took tremendous effort and years of work on my part--it was not easy. BUT IT WORKED. So once again, f**k you for thinking you somehow know better than anyone else what depression is and can tell people their experiences are irrelevant.

You started this by being abusive to another person. I'm sure telling you you were, lazy, not trying, and purposely not taking any advice when you were depressed would have helped you. :roll: Especially if the advice was basically "don't be depressed". "think positive" is basically equivalent to "don't be depressed". Why don't you go tell someone with cancer "stop having pain", or "try harder to get better". You also admit you took medication so it wasn't all "will power".


STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I never called anyone lazy. I JUST TRIED TO SAY THAT TREATMENT IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT WORKED FOR ME, WITH LOTOF EFFORT ON MY PART. f**k OFF!! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


Take a chillpill. I simply think that the main issue is merely your lack of concern for Marshall's situation and life experience. Cussing at him will not do anyone any good. Start censoring yourself.


I already do take pills for my depression which I apparently don't need to take according to you people because I don't have depression or I would understand how hard it is to be depressed. Is that not the right chill pill to take?????????


Well if you do not have depression or any other condition, it is common knowledge that one ought to cease treatment.


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25 Feb 2016, 12:25 am

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this seems like it is getting out of hand

I'll defend wilbur a bit here and say I don't think she was trying to be abusive, she just was reiterating the same old 'power of positive thinking' mantra so many here like to parrot and was stating that there are more than just romantic relationships to be valued which is all fine and true but I think she a bit of a persecution complex and has trouble communicating in a way that isn't condescending which in turn brings attacks back upon her.

I think people need to understand the advice given on this forum is mostly just throwing words out into the void, the reality is you can't solve someone else's issues no matter how rational and correct your advice is so the single most important function of this site is just support and it kind of defeats to point to browbeat someone for venting their depression on here. I feel like the some of those that preach the gospel 'positive thinking' here are more trying avoid reading things that upset them personally rather than actually trying to help. "Just don't do that" is never good advice either for pretty much anything really, if only it were that simple. Perhaps start somewhere more practical and communicate in a less combative manner, this shouldn't be a competition on who has it the worst.


IT WAS NOT JUST POSITIVE THINKING THAT HELPED MY DEPRESSION. How many times do I need to state that? It took f*****g YEARS of WORK. HARD WORK. I had to go through all the things that were dragging me down, talk about all my fears and old wounds and sort them out so they were no longer ruling me. PLus it took years of trying different meds until I found the right ones that worked for me. YEARS of trying one medication after another, dealing with all the various side effects and the disappointments of ones that werent' effective, until I finally found one that worked. IT WAS NOT POSITIVE THINKING.

Jesus f*****g Christ. No one reads my actual words, but you're all happy to judge me without reading what I acutally say. You can all take your positive thinking and shove it.


I wish you'd just chill, I was trying defend your intentions and say that you were being misunderstood but I'm not sure you even realize that. I have no reason to do this since you've been nothing but nasty towards me and most other members I've observed you interact with but I felt sorry for you feeling so persecuted and thought maybe it's just an issue of communication and things snowballing from there.

Speaking about this annoyance this 'power of positive thinking' mantra is more a generalization since it is repeated so much here and that was what your original post sounded like. Yes, it is a long road and it's something you have fight against everyday in order to better yourself so I hope you can sympathetic to those that have found themselves in a bad place in life. Just being able to vent and openly express something is a start, that's why this place has The Haven.



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25 Feb 2016, 12:46 am

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this seems like it is getting out of hand

I'll defend wilbur a bit here and say I don't think she was trying to be abusive, she just was reiterating the same old 'power of positive thinking' mantra so many here like to parrot and was stating that there are more than just romantic relationships to be valued which is all fine and true but I think she a bit of a persecution complex and has trouble communicating in a way that isn't condescending which in turn brings attacks back upon her.

I think people need to understand the advice given on this forum is mostly just throwing words out into the void, the reality is you can't solve someone else's issues no matter how rational and correct your advice is so the single most important function of this site is just support and it kind of defeats to point to browbeat someone for venting their depression on here. I feel like the some of those that preach the gospel 'positive thinking' here are more trying avoid reading things that upset them personally rather than actually trying to help. "Just don't do that" is never good advice either for pretty much anything really, if only it were that simple. Perhaps start somewhere more practical and communicate in a less combative manner, this shouldn't be a competition on who has it the worst.


IT WAS NOT JUST POSITIVE THINKING THAT HELPED MY DEPRESSION. How many times do I need to state that? It took f*****g YEARS of WORK. HARD WORK. I had to go through all the things that were dragging me down, talk about all my fears and old wounds and sort them out so they were no longer ruling me. PLus it took years of trying different meds until I found the right ones that worked for me. YEARS of trying one medication after another, dealing with all the various side effects and the disappointments of ones that werent' effective, until I finally found one that worked. IT WAS NOT POSITIVE THINKING.

Jesus f*****g Christ. No one reads my actual words, but you're all happy to judge me without reading what I acutally say. You can all take your positive thinking and shove it.


But you will imply that if someone like Sly continues to complain on here he is guilty of not trying, not working hard, unlike you the "hard worker" who never complains. Fact is, he could take all the advice given to him, but if he still doesn't have a girlfriend he will still be on here complaining. That's just the nature of it. Meeting the right person has a large degree of chance to factor in. Nothing he does will get him a girlfriend tomorrow. Therefore tomorrow he will be back here complaining, giving reasons nothing will ever work. For you to just come on and lambast him for "not trying" or "not working hard" is just completely counterproductive. As far as I know he has tried things. He's told us such. So it seems the real issue is people like you are annoyed with him complaining, not that he hasn't tried anything. If that's your issue, you might as well just avoid his posts. Probably the best advice for him would be to take a break from WP because this place is mostly negative, even the haven sadly.



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25 Feb 2016, 12:59 am

wilburforce wrote:
I already do take pills for my depression which I apparently don't need to take according to you people because I don't have depression or I would understand how hard it is to be depressed. Is that not the right chill pill to take?????????

I ACCEPT THAT YOU WERE (OR ARE) DEPRESSED! Where I get the feeling you don't understand is when you INSIST the people AREN'T taking your vague advice, aren't working on their problems, aren't doing anything to better themselves, etc... and apparently get hostile with them. Because... well, even you admit it takes time.



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25 Feb 2016, 3:04 am

Jacoby wrote:
I think people need to understand the advice given on this forum is mostly just throwing words out into the void, the reality is you can't solve someone else's issues no matter how rational and correct your advice is


This is very true and i'm glad you pointed it out. I have had levels of frustration in forums when i view someone as not taking any current action to change things and repeatedly upset when things don't change. The more time and energy spent trying to help, the more emotionally invested, and then the more frustrated. But you're very right, you can't solve things for someone else. You can make suggestions and what they do from there is up to them. At which point, if it bothers me, i guess it's then up to me to let go and step away.

Thank you for saying this.


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