I feel hopeless and wann just stop living.
Sly, you are trying to find whatever thing you can to make your life happy, and as a result you fail, and it doesn't make you happy.
Let me tell you the things that will result in you living an unhappy life if you focus at whatever the cost to make them succeed: Having company, having a family, living independently, how we are labeled, having the dream job, getting rich, getting famous, and etc.
When we rely our happiness on those things, we end up hurting ourselves in the end, because we compare ourselves to what the majority. Sly, when you get older you have less friends. Some people when they get old enough only have their children and parents as company.
Sly stop looking at people for once. Let yourself be wrong and move on with being wrong.
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you can't find happiness on the outside anywhere, any that you think you find is not really a warm fuzzie but more like a cold pricklie which only superficially resembles happiness. you can't chase after it either as it will always outrun you. no single human has the power to make you happier than you are, only you yourself have that power over yourself. no, you must let happiness find you, wherever you are at, it has that capability, if one doesn't chase it away.
I dont know it’s hard not to believe something so many people all say.
Something’s can’t be changed. I am disabled and it prevents me from working most of not all full time jobs. So I can’t change my income status.
Maybe with some depression but situational depression only changes when the situation does.
I’m about to be 30 next month all the good years(we’ll what should been good ) are behind me forever
The idea of having to wait til I’m 80/90 to have Love is super depressing. No thanks.
The rest of what you said confused me
You don't have to be sorry. I'm just trying to help you, not judge you or tell you what you did wrong.
I understand it's hard when everyone/the majority around you is saying the same negative things to you. It's hard, but not impossible. Be better than someone who gives in. You can do it.
Not necessarily. I'd recommend looking up Cognitive Distortions. Once I was done being mad about it, it made a lot of sense and I try to keep it in mind, myself.
I'm 30, Sly. Going to 31 very soon. The best years are definitely not over. And there's really no such thing. There's best years for physical health, but the rest is all mental, and if you're not in a state to appreciate or enjoy the time then it doesn't matter what age you are, it'll be wasted. It's all perspective.
That's just greed talking, telling you it's not good enough if you don't have it now. That's not true. Life may not be what you want it to be, but that doesn't mean it's not good in its own way. Not to insinuate I know anything about your life or circumstances, but all the same it's better to try to enjoy what you've got that's good.
Self evaluation. Even if you're a perfect prime specimen, even if you're in a happy stable relationship, it's still important to evaluate yourself, to ask yourself "If the person I was with or was interested in acted like this/said these things/did these things/thought like this, would I want to be with them?" and answer honestly. And if the answer is ever no, it's time to change that thing about yourself. Because it's important to always at least do your best to bring your best self to the table. It's only fair.
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You don't have to engage with people who are combative. It's 100% okay for you to walk away from or choose not to respond to people who are being aggressive/combative/rude/mean/argumentative etc. It's actually better if you don't keep the fight going, for all involved. Any significantly disruptive/distressful interaction causes not only a rise in the blood pressure of both parties but it typically engages your sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight response) and causes cortisol and adrenaline to flow through your blood, which damages your cells in your body and deteriorates your overall health. So if you remove yourself from it, you're helping yourself and the other person to live a healthier life physically, not to mention emotionally/mentally.
I think for most of use it’s hard not to though. I try not to read their posts but if I do it pisses me off so I wanna respond. Suppose it’s th obsessive compulsiveness.
I’d have to remove myself from wp but that’d be hard and then I’d be alone, atleast here there’s s few people who’ll talk to me.
You have to look at it this way... You know it burns and hurts you to touch the hot stove, right? You keep touching the stove. It doesn't really matter why, what reasons you have for doing it, it won't change that it's going to keep burning you and hurting you. So you have to make the choice not to touch the stove, because you know what the end result will be. You have to say to yourself, and mean it, "It's not worth it." and walk away. It's a choice we all make for ourselves in many facets of our lives, for our own health and peace of mind.
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he has the aspie hangup about fairness, he feels life has been unfair to him, in that he sees everybody else BUT himself with life success. he has the very common [among aspie males] tendency to be oblivious to those who score beneath himself. I am the same way. i don't know what anybody could have said to me to allay my chronic upset, and i fear i similarly lack the properly comforting words for sly. "just hang in there" seems awfully inadequate when one feels one is already hanging by a thread.
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Mmmhm. He also discounts his own successes as being worthless, too. He's successfully gotten & held a job for over 2 years - hell, he's had at least 2 jobs!
Pretty sure from his posts he's also had a girlfriend at least once. I've dated people kinda sorta & had fwb, but I have never ever had a romantic relationship.
He's successfully amassed a collection of guns, too! Some gun people may in fact be envious of his collection & knowledge.
Plus, every single day he wakes up he breaks his own personal record for number of days alive!! ! Funny, as intended, but it's the damned Truth, too. Even the little things are worth celebrating. It's all a matter of perspective. If we all woke up thinking and feeling "WOW! I WOKE UP! IMAGINE WHAT I CAN DO WITH THIS NEW DAY!!?" we'd probably all have a pretty fantastic time of life. (possibly manic, but meh, at least you'd be smiling lol)
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this little ditty continues to give me comfort, decades after first hearing Spock [actor Leonard Nimoy] speak it on a record in my collection-
DESIDERATA
Go placidly amid the noise and haste and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world in full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is: many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.
Often attributed as "Found in Old Saint Paul's Church, Baltimore: Dated 1692."
Actually, Desiderata was written in 1927 by an obscure Indiana lawyer and poet named Max Ehrmann. Sources include: The Washington Post, November 27, 1977.
But I have and did find happiness outside just like most people do. I just want to find it again.
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But I have and did find happiness outside just like most people do. I just want to find it again.
most people THINK they find happiness on the outside. what they did find, was an external tool that helped the find their own inner happiness. the happiest people btw find their own helpful tools and don't have to rely on external tools.
Mmmhm. He also discounts his own successes as being worthless, too. He's successfully gotten & held a job for over 2 years - hell, he's had at least 2 jobs!
Pretty sure from his posts he's also had a girlfriend at least once. I've dated people kinda sorta & had fwb, but I have never ever had a romantic relationship.
He's successfully amassed a collection of guns, too! Some gun people may in fact be envious of his collection & knowledge.
Plus, every single day he wakes up he breaks his own personal record for number of days alive!! ! Funny, as intended, but it's the damned Truth, too. Even the little things are worth celebrating. It's all a matter of perspective. If we all woke up thinking and feeling "WOW! I WOKE UP! IMAGINE WHAT I CAN DO WITH THIS NEW DAY!!?" we'd probably all have a pretty fantastic time of life. (possibly manic, but meh, at least you'd be smiling lol)
Having a job for teenagers as most would put it isn’t success. Working s office job that pays 100k a year is success.
No I’ve never had a gf or romantic relationship. I’ve only had briefs romantic interests and only two of which meet up in person briefly. I’ve never had a second date.
Most gun owners have atleast 20 guns I have less then 10. Most gun owners are wel off so buy 1-2 guns a month.
When your life is lonely and pointless life is like prison time so every day you wake it’s horrible. Like another day in this tiny hard room making lines in the wall. That’s what it feels like to me and others a punishment some kind of death row sentence.
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most of us don't rate cushy $100k+ office jobs, that is for a fortunate cognitive elite and just plain lucky people. I never had more than one gun [other than my own ], that I inherited from DOD. for us aspie males, life is often lonely sure enough, but it doesn't have to, by dint of loneliness, be pointless. you find yourself a point you can call your own, and make it your life. as Nietzsche said, "He who has a WHY to live for can bear almost any how."
But I have and did find happiness outside just like most people do. I just want to find it again.
most people THINK they find happiness on the outside. what they did find, was an external tool that helped the find their own inner happiness. the happiest people btw find their own helpful tools and don't have to rely on external tools.
I think most people find happiness by being with others and doing things with others. It’s why most people have lots of friends, wife/husband, family, go to group gatherings as much as possible. Those things bring them happiness or they wouldn’t do them .
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"... by being with others of their type...." and "...doing their type of thing with others..." IOW we are not all the same, you see the greener grass on the other side of the fence but when you get there you discover you have nothing in common with those folks, they are as alien to you [and you to them] as the little green men on mars. you can't find anything approaching happiness with people you don't really see eye to eye with. so if you are wishing you were not like yourself but were just like those others you see having fun, what's the use of being somebody other than your God-given self? what purpose does life serve if only you're gonna be just another version of somebody else rather than something novel, something different? I didn't understand this until I was in my 5th decade of taking up space on earth, so I guess it is hard to translate this into something that other people grok.
DESIDERATA
Go placidly amid the noise and haste and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world in full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is: many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.
Often attributed as "Found in Old Saint Paul's Church, Baltimore: Dated 1692."
Actually, Desiderata was written in 1927 by an obscure Indiana lawyer and poet named Max Ehrmann. Sources include: The Washington Post, November 27, 1977.
I love Desiderata. I have it on a plaque above my pillow and on a poster in my office. It's the closest thing to a prayer I've ever experienced, and I turn to it often as a quasi-meditative litany that helps me stay centered.
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But I have and did find happiness outside just like most people do. I just want to find it again.
Incorrect. Just as MANY other people here are telling you, not just me, happiness comes from within - from your own thoughts & reactions to life. Stop seeking it to be bestowed upon you by someone else. It cannot happen. Accept that the ONLY way ANYONE feels happy is by happy thoughts, and then take the steps required to deal with your depression & think better thoughts. The quality of your life depends on the quality of your thoughts. Period. You will never ever EVER EVER EVER stumble upon happiness as if you can simply just go on a quest and find it somewhere sitting under a rock. It's in your head, your thoughts, that's it, that's all - same for every single human being alive.
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