This issue still perplexes me. Seriously. Can we discuss it?
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I'm not on amphetamines.
I'm still recovering from a course of antibiotics. I ate a bit of carbs/sugar last night. I drank two large cups of coffee this afternoon. My ASD symptoms may be a bit stronger right now than "normal," but I am not high on amphetamines. I have some upstairs that were prescribed to me 5+ years ago (dextroamphetamine 5mg IR) but I haven't taken any in years because they no longer serve me - I don't need them and their side effects cause more harm than good. I'm not drunk, either. Wall of text explanations are an Aspie trait, not indicative of every WOT poster on WP being high on meth.
As for kites, the last few summers I've REALLY enjoyed getting back to flying my surf kites and kiteboarding on the ocean in Squamish. I may never be incredibly good at the sport as some are, but it's nice to have my body & coordination cooperate well enough to do it vs. dyspraxia symptoms preventing me from mastering the basics despite my knowledge of the physics etc. Even flying kites has drastically improved for having followed this medicinal protocol.
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I'm not on amphetamines.
You really don't get this do you?
I'm saying it seems like this diet thingy you're on has you hyped up sky high.
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Your pitch sucks. You don't have a good handle on how you present yourself to people. Awhile ago, you were asking why people were put-off when you "corrected" them on their use of the brand names of medication with the scientific name. It's because you come across as a condescending know-it-all. Work on your compassion and empathy, and folks might be more inclined to listen to you.
You'll win more converts that way than getting in their face and yelling, "MY DIET IS AWESOME. YOU'RE LAZY IF YOU DON'T TRY MY DIET. COME ON, IT'S AWESOME! JUST TRY IT!! ! !"
I don't recall whatever medication conversation you're talking about.
I've never used those words. Again, at least twice in this thread, you're making up false quotes & accusations putting words in my mouth saying that I've said things I've never said.
And you wonder why my reactions to your fabricated quotes aren't so positive in nature.
I may be mis-rembering things, but my point still stands.
Listen to KK if you want to appeal to the masses. Learning something new is noble, not a failure. At the end of the day, we're all autistic, and we're trying to help you.
Spread your good news, just don't do it in a way that alienates your audience.
So, your potentially faulty memory is your explanation for blatantly misquoting me saying that I said things I never have? Ooookay there..
You're not trying to help me w/ a damned thing. You're collectively suggesting I'm the sort of "stable genius" that Donald Trump is and shouldn't be sharing what I do because you don't believe I'm telling the truth.
There's no other way I know how to convey what I've done besides sharing how night and day different it's positive impact has been on my entire life. I think we can both agree that you think I'm a liar and in the end I don't really care what you think of me because I'm going to continue living my life as I see fit to do so, pursuing greater goals & challenges, and become ever healthier & wealthier for it and y'all are welcome to continue doing your same ol' same ol' to your hearts' content. One of us will live a fuller, happier, more socially connected life with greater financial prosperity, and the rest, in general, will not. I am A-okay with being the odd one out if it means I get to be the happier, healthier, guy with more friends, a better quality of life, & more money. (I don't even care about money, only about the things it enables me to do with my time.)
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I'm not on amphetamines.
You really don't get this do you?
I'm saying it seems like this diet thingy you're on has you hyped up sky high.
You really don't get this do you?
I'm not high on anything. I'm not manic. I'm not tweaking out on amphetamines. I'm calmly sitting in my kitchen finishing a meal and replying to these posts.
The part you really don't get is that the difference all of this has made in my life IS worth being STOKED about sharing. Pretend, imagine, make believe for just a moment that e v e r y t h i n g I've posted over the last ~5 years is 100% true & that I'd say every last word of it in sworn testimony (because it is true) and then maybe you'll have a fighting chance of understanding why I'd be as optimistic & share it with such enthusiasm as I have. This is not the sort of suff that's conveyed via a boring monotonous tone of "I had a headache. I took Tylenol. My headache symptoms were relieved. I can get some rest now. Tylenol is good for headaches." No. Not at all. Instead, this is more: "I had off the charts strong ASD symptoms like the rest of you. I read more than 10,000 pages about this stuff. I learned some things & started tying them, and then more things - AND THEY WORKED! They've been MIRACULOUSLY successful at treating what ails me, and all of you, and I am BEYOND STOKED to share this with the people it could help most!!"
And then those people go: "There's no known treatment, must be lying."
And I sit here and go: *blink* Are you f*****g kidding me? I just gave you LIFE CHANGING information and instead of trying one bit of it you accuse me of being a liar, perpetuating a lifelong hoax for my own amusement, or being a snakeoil salesmen who hasn't actually ever offered anything for sale nor attempted to personally profit or benefit from any of this? BIZARRE!
That about sums it up. I hope you're able to understand, even ever so slightly, where I'm coming from with this by putting yourself in my shoes for a moment.
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Your pitch sucks. You don't have a good handle on how you present yourself to people. Awhile ago, you were asking why people were put-off when you "corrected" them on their use of the brand names of medication with the scientific name. It's because you come across as a condescending know-it-all. Work on your compassion and empathy, and folks might be more inclined to listen to you.
You'll win more converts that way than getting in their face and yelling, "MY DIET IS AWESOME. YOU'RE LAZY IF YOU DON'T TRY MY DIET. COME ON, IT'S AWESOME! JUST TRY IT!! ! !"
I don't recall whatever medication conversation you're talking about.
I've never used those words. Again, at least twice in this thread, you're making up false quotes & accusations putting words in my mouth saying that I've said things I've never said.
And you wonder why my reactions to your fabricated quotes aren't so positive in nature.
I may be mis-rembering things, but my point still stands.
Listen to KK if you want to appeal to the masses. Learning something new is noble, not a failure. At the end of the day, we're all autistic, and we're trying to help you.
Spread your good news, just don't do it in a way that alienates your audience.
So, your potentially faulty memory is your explanation for blatantly misquoting me saying that I said things I never have? Ooookay there..
You're not trying to help me w/ a damned thing. You're collectively suggesting I'm the sort of "stable genius" that Donald Trump is and shouldn't be sharing what I do because you don't believe I'm telling the truth.
There's no other way I know how to convey what I've done besides sharing how night and day different it's positive impact has been on my entire life. I think we can both agree that you think I'm a liar and in the end I don't really care what you think of me because I'm going to continue living my life as I see fit to do so, pursuing greater goals & challenges, and become ever healthier & wealthier for it and y'all are welcome to continue doing your same ol' same ol' to your hearts' content. One of us will live a fuller, happier, more socially connected life with greater financial prosperity, and the rest, in general, will not. I am A-okay with being the odd one out if it means I get to be the happier, healthier, guy with more friends, a better quality of life, & more money. (I don't even care about money, only about the things it enables me to do with my time.)
Share it all you want, but be aware of how you come across.
Accusing anyone who is suffering depression/anxiety of being "lazy" isn't helping your cause.
Constantly talking about how awesome you are and how s**t the rest of us are will win you few sympathizers. I truly believe you're trying to help, I'm just not sure you're going about it the right way. Again, listen to KK.
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I'm not on amphetamines.
You really don't get this do you?
I'm saying it seems like this diet thingy you're on has you hyped up sky high.
You really don't get this do you?
I'm not high on anything. I'm not manic. I'm not tweaking out on amphetamines. I'm calmly sitting in my kitchen finishing a meal and replying to these posts.
That doesn't matter. You sound manic as hell nonetheless.
When you're pitching what you're pitching, how people perceive you means everything.
How you really are, means nothing.
How you are perceived, means everything.
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At least I can sleep well at night knowing that I tried to tell you all here how ASD is able to be treated/managed/controlled and what benefit it can have on one's life. It's entirely up to each of you what you do or don't do with the information. Feel free to wait another 4, 10, 20+ years to begin your own healing processes - if ever, all you want. At least I know I didn't withhold one bit of info about how I've managed to do these things for myself & unlike many people, have actually Tried, despite the unconventional methods or gross science and what anyone may think of it. I've at least done my part for I am not one to experience such life changing benefits and then keep them to myself with thoughts that this is only for me to benefit from, for me to feel better from, feel more socially connected from, earn more money from and so on. But I cannot make anyone else want any of these things for themselves.
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I did take a look at Goldfish's original post but it was so extremely wordy that I didn't read it.
@Goldfish21 - Isn't there a condensed version you can share with the world?
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@Goldfish21 - Isn't there a condensed version you can share with the world?
Do use epsom salts on your skin to aid in eliminating food acids that mess with our executive functions, depression & anxiety levels.
Starve yourself of foods that fuel whatever gut dysbiosis (I believe it's fungal, but I do not Know.) causes or exacerbates ASD symptoms.
Fill yourself up on the herbs/oils/teas etc that kill off the bad stuff in our guts & heal the intestines.
Consume supplements that aid in brain function & heal the gut.
Consume mass amounts of probiotics as they seem to have an extremely beneficial effect on gut-brain connection & nervous system functions, via what biochemical mechanism I can only speculate.
Do high volume intestinal cleanses (enemas) with diluted organic apple cider vinegar regularly to cleanse the lower digestive tract of whatever it is that results in amplified ASD symptoms.
Do also use probiotics rectally, as there seems to be a greater medicinal impact here than via ingesting them orally.
That's the extreme cliff notes version.
Everything I wrote about cooking & consuming was pieced together from my own reading & research. It was months or years later that I learned of a book called "The GAPS Diet" (Gut and PSychology diet) & while I have not read the book, from my very quick read over it, it seems extremely similar. Someone has published a book years before hand that outlines a very similar medicinal diet designed to heal the digestive tract and treat many different "mental," afflictions in the process. I say "mental," because I'd call them more.. neurological, and argue that they're largely based in the gut/digestive tract/enteric nervous system & Not in the brain.
IMO, ASD is clearly both. We know that our brains do not follow NT wiring diagrams and that has an influence on how they function. I believe that it's likely the gut dysbiosis that somehow trips the brain/nervous symptom into it's a-typical wiring during development. It's all of it together. We can't rewire the deep connections in our brains, but we Can treat the digestive component via what we ingest & medicine we take both orally (food/supplements/probiotics), topically (magnesium sulphate - epsom salts. I make my own lotion but there are several brands available at drug stores.), or otherwise internally. (rectally as in high volume cleansing enemas, or suppositories and the like.) Yes, it's gross science & unconventional, but it's medically relevant and if it wasn't as life changingly effective I wouldn't have ever shared it with you people here.
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The report I suggest you write as I clearly stated before is not for this forum. It is for the wider scientific community. Not large commercial organisations. I understand why they would not be interested. It would be for the autism charities, universities and individual researchers who are currently doing research into autism. You can easily find lots of them with a quick internet search. The report does not need to a professionally produced glossy affair. It would probably take just a few hours. You only need to explain your diet and the results it has produced for you. You do not need to explain your whole life story.
No doubt most researchers would reject it immediately or not even bother to look at it. They probably see lots of this sort of stuff all the time. You only need one to take it seriously though. I would suggest that would be a far better use of your time than keep coming back to this thread. You have already fully explained your diet to us and we can take it or leave it. Now you need to explain it to a wider audience if it is going to benefit a lot of people and you need to do that now, not in the distant future when you may or may not be a doctor of some sort.
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Autism is not my superpower.
Regardless, it IS a workable coping mechanism. I've done it. However, when I used to be HIGHLY anxious & very Aspie doing this was incredibly draining and I definitely needed time to recharge afterwards. I don't think anyone can keep it up 24/7 with ease. Now it's quite rare that I ever do this, as I feel that my responses are much more naturally, intuitively, socially acceptable vs. requiring very quick thinking to determine what I should say or do. I never get so mentally drained as I used to when relying on this, either.
Yup, that's pretty much it. I do sometimes make things up as I go, but being the slow thinker I am (I'm slow at pretty much everything... even some of my teachers used to say that while I have average intelligence my slowness often makes me seem stupid) it usually doesn't go as well as I'd like to, so I get better results thinking things through before I have to do them, not to mention having some kind of plan makes me less anxious.
True, not everything goes as planned and I end up having to improvise, which is troublesome... if it's a small thing and I'm lucky it'll only lead to slight uncomfortableness, but sometimes when things go in to a direction I didn't expect at all it leads to a meltdown. Rare, but it happens. Of course, I will try to fix things and do what must be done as well as I can, but it will be a lot harder than it would be had things gone according to the original plan or if whatever that went wrong was the kind of mistake I had considered to be a possibility. But well, I'm alive and haven't been sent to jail or mental hospital, so that means that so far I've always pulled through one way or another.
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I can't keep it up 24/7, true, but who can? I highly doubt even any NT could be at their best 24/7. And it's not like I need to do it 24/7 or even every day; most of the time I'm in a situation where I can take a break from making a huge effort when I need to and most of the things I do are the kind that can be pushed back a little if I'm not in the condition to do them... the only exceptions are official business like work and if I've promised someone I'd do something.
And of course, the more I use this method the more I learn and as I do so, these things start to become natural to me. By natural I mean a point where I don't need to make detailed plans in advance and can just more or less do things as I go... for example I can now do the weekly cleaning of my apartment on autopilot without having to think about in which order it would be smartest to do what. This works with people too; the better I know a person the better I know what I can talk about with him/her and what subjects are off limits. As I learn to know them better I no longer need to think about what's okay and what's not so much since that knowledge comes to my mind fast... but of course there are times that I mess up with this, too. Plans that involve other people are the likeliest to fail.