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15 Sep 2019, 9:32 am

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Each 'apartment' held 3 occupants. One bigger room had two people, they shared a bath. One little room had me, with a bath outside the room door. With a common living room and kitchen... If you get a pig for a roommate, or even a housemate, it can be not very fun. These were addicts, with lots of bizarre habits (aside from drugs). I had it a lot better than some. My friend's housemate had and eating disorder as well as addiction. She had the same room I had, only in a different apartment. She was a laxative abuser, when they took her laxatives away, she would make soap suppositories. She was constantly pooping with the bathroom door open, even when company was there! We called her the 'madd crapper.' God, the people who end up rooming together can be very difficult. If Patterson was like that, I feel so sorry for anyone who must go through that.

The experience did help my recovery, I stayed clean and sober because I never wanted to have to go through that again.


Hey, just a head's up, this was the best bit in the whole thread I read so far. Arresting image. Congrats on staying clean and sober. One day at a time.



Thank you... it will be 6 years on Sept 25th. One day at a time... I had never gone to a half-way house prior to the last treatment. I always thought that was for people who had no place else to go. But, it wasn't. It was to help me transition to the real world without the use of drugs and alcohol. I knew how to be on lock down, I did not know how to be free.


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15 Sep 2019, 9:44 am

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...I left the Patterson place, it seemed still operating, I was in a motel for a week testing to arrange going back, after my motel money ran out, I had to stick around Patterson a couple days mote, it was still within the month at the place I had paid for - The place had been vacated as far as the other people still being there, but it was still " Daniel's " - and it was not the only place he had.
Somehow, it had gone from being occupied to not occupied within a week That wasn't t my doing. I minimum-stayed there a night or two before the bring taken back actually happened.



My mother in law wanted to stay home, so we got in home care for her. The workers ran scams on her, until we took her ability to write checks away. If you do ever end up going to a care home, just tell the proprietor that you have a guardian and are unable to give them anything. How will they ever know if you set up direct deposit from your account to their's? Don't let anyone know your financial business, keep a minimum of cash on you (enough for public transport) and they can't take it.

Though I don't have experience in your particular situation, I am familiar with some of the scams that can be run on people in treatment. I was one of the only patients who had a car, therefore it became my responsibility to give people rides. No one offered gas money and to ask was to be made to feel like I was not willing to help someone worse off than I. Next time, I left my car at home. You live and you learn... If the people who run the place get their money and you use public transport, there is NO reason they need to know your business (unless you tell them). So, don't tell them. They can't try and take what they have no knowledge of.


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15 Sep 2019, 4:57 pm

Persephone is an excellent source of wisdom.....because she’s smart, and she’s been through this stuff.



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15 Sep 2019, 6:19 pm

...I lost a draft :( ...Persrph's narrative describes a fully-carried out version a stealing-from-the-resident situation that the " hostd " in Patterso at least could have turned into! :P - They lied to me about Patterson.luic transllf6, they charged me loads of money for a.local.trip, and " Daniel." tried to get me to.give property of MI d to.him. just for three! :cry: And.the place apparently moved out the other cline us in the week/ish I was in the most.a d I did "t know it til: I briefly. came back them!\ :? !


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15 Sep 2019, 6:51 pm

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...I lost a draft :( ...Persrph's narrative describes a fully-carried out version a stealing-from-the-resident situation that the " hostd " in Patterso at least could have turned into! :P - They lied to me about Patterson.luic transllf6, they charged me loads of money for a.local.trip, and " Daniel." tried to get me to.give property of MI d to.him. just for three! :cry: And.the place apparently moved out the other cline us in the week/ish I was in the most.a d I did "t know it til: I briefly. came back them!\ :? !


Don't tell them anything anymore. Keep your bank card in a safety deposit box somewhere along your route, stop and get just enough for whatever you need, put it back in the box. See how it goes... YOU need to investigate public transport in the area that you will be moving to, don't rely on them. Don't keep anything of value in your room... Eat your meals, do your things you like to do and minimize contact with them. If you can navigate California as a homeless person, you can do this.


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15 Sep 2019, 6:53 pm

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Persephone is an excellent source of wisdom.....because she’s smart, and she’s been through this stuff.



Thank you, kraftie. I've been through some crazy stuff, it was all my own fault. :oops:


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15 Sep 2019, 9:16 pm

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...I lost a draft :( ...Persrph's narrative describes a fully-carried out version a stealing-from-the-resident situation that the " hostd " in Patterso at least could have turned into! :P - They lied to me about Patterson.luic transllf6, they charged me loads of money for a.local.trip, and " Daniel." tried to get me to.give property of MI d to.him. just for three! :cry: And.the place apparently moved out the other cline us in the week/ish I was in the most.a d I did "t know it til: I briefly. came back them!\ :? !


Don't tell them anything anymore. Keep your bank card in a safety deposit box somewhere along your route, stop and get just enough for whatever you need, put it back in the box. See how it goes... YOU need to investigate public transport in the area that you will be moving to, don't rely on them. Don't keep anything of value in your room... Eat your meals, do your things you like to do and minimize contact with them. If you can navigate California as a homeless person, you can do this.







...I am now indoors bavk st the shelter rather than oitfoord with lotsa sunlight :D , and I see a lot of mis post got through on the post you quote. This sort of thing happens to me a lot :( . I presume my intended meanings got through anyhow 8) :D ?
You do not trust backs ad a prospect. Ezra does :| . Perhaps Ezra has averaged better experiences with tjrm :? . That is good for him :wink:.
When I went to Ps t person. I did picture myself staying in the place a lot of the time, though mote. and more easily, than it turned out to be in the weeks there ' I was going to " cocoon ". :| You seem.to suggest that would be quite, anyway, unlikely, having a safe. decent, good stability spot :(. Perhaps we ate old fohoed and should foe. out opinion or ecperience worthless, as Rxrs"s youth gives him real know 8) ledge! Anything we experienced is.irrelevant :evil: !


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My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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15 Sep 2019, 10:02 pm

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You do not trust backs ad a prospect. Ezra does :| . Perhaps Ezra has averaged better experiences with tjrm :? . That is good for him :wink:.


I know a few autistic adults who live in the average care home, whom I have corresponded with. One is a fairly frequent WP poster.

They all have had unremarkable experiences living in them. Just regular day to day life like I experience at home. No melodrama.

They like me have a lot of experience with caregivers. At school, at camp, at daycare. I've had 101 caregivers come and go in my life. And no abuse. No melodrama. There have been a few I did not like much, but that is about it.

But I guess for some folks every experience and just life in general has to be pure melodrama.

Huge melodrama over getting transcripts when a simple phone call was all that was needed.

Huge melodrama over no one to teach you tech skills, when all you ever had to do was ask a librarian for assistance.

I am sure Patterson was 10 times more melodramatic for you than it would have been for anyone else here.

Some folks thive on melodrama and you are obviously one of them.

Once again what is written below is a prime example of it:

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Ezra say that I am not allowed to try and get any tech information beyond " Watch this video! " - he says that J am totally helpless and should have all freedom taken away from me because I would like some help in improving my tech knowledge! 8O. I think that's really hateful of you, Ezra :cry: . I am hurt by that :( .

Of course, Ezra says that if I ask for help in anything at all, I should be locked away from freedom forebet :cry: .

And Ezra feels I should be stage mental hospital-level locked away for desiring some help in anything :cry:.



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15 Sep 2019, 11:35 pm

...You haven't experienced the bad things thusly I have, Ezra# :x # I have! I have! :cry: (Do, from what she says. has Perdrph.) Don't f*****g act superior to me :evil:.


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16 Sep 2019, 12:41 am

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...I left the Patterson place, it seemed still operating, I was in a motel for a week testing to arrange going back, after my motel money ran out, I had to stick around Patterson a couple days mote, it was still within the month at the place I had paid for - The place had been vacated as far as the other people still being there, but it was still " Daniel's " - and it was not the only place he had.
Somehow, it had gone from being occupied to not occupied within a week That wasn't t my doing. I minimum-stayed there a night or two before the bring taken back actually happened.



My mother in law wanted to stay home, so we got in home care for her. The workers ran scams on her, until we took her ability to write checks away. If you do ever end up going to a care home, just tell the proprietor that you have a guardian and are unable to give them anything. How will they ever know if you set up direct deposit from your account to their's? Don't let anyone know your financial business, keep a minimum of cash on you (enough for public transport) and they can't take it.

Though I don't have experience in your particular situation, I am familiar with some of the scams that can be run on people in treatment. I was one of the only patients who had a car, therefore it became my responsibility to give people rides. No one offered gas money and to ask was to be made to feel like I was not willing to help someone worse off than I. Next time, I left my car at home. You live and you learn... If the people who run the place get their money and you use public transport, there is NO reason they need to know your business (unless you tell them). So, don't tell them. They can't try and take what they have no knowledge of.


I doubt all the shelters he has stayed in have been any safer than a care home in those respects.

And from what I know of them, which is quite a bit by now, a care home is not like a halfway house. Most if not all of the residents in care homes are simply disabled or retired elderly folks.



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16 Sep 2019, 2:03 am

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...You haven't experienced the bad things thusly I have, Ezra# :x # I have! I have! :cry: (Do, from what she says. has Perdrph.) Don't f*****g act superior to me :evil:.


I was not comparing myself to you. And in what way could I possibly be superior? More melodrama.



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16 Sep 2019, 2:47 am

...Yes, Ezra, you know everything about all care/vudtofisl situations. and since nothing has ever gone wrong with you. Perseph and I are lying :evil: . Right. :twisted:
I am more than rather!.straining my esyefethese :( posting cirvimdtanced :( With me energized now, it's brtter :| . but it's lights :cry:
Ourt in this shelter but a very bright side light. :( 9SM or so. 5 SM wake-up, Don"t feel very sleepy - and it's 5 AM wake-up. I'll have the sleep rest feditrs later I supposr :( . There is a Walgreen s" near to me on Front Street if I remember and have time I'll write about what I.dix Sunday
I still.get.money.from.the.NYS lawyer.


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16 Sep 2019, 4:01 am

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...Yes, Ezra, you know everything about all care/vudtofisl situations. and since nothing has ever gone wrong with you. Perseph and I are lying :evil: . Right. :twisted:


Considing the melodramatic false accusations and distortions you have told about what me and others have said to you, it is not much of a stretch to suspect you are doing the same regarding the care home, among other things.



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...Yes, Ezra, you know everything about all care/vudtofisl situations. and since nothing has ever gone wrong with you. Perseph and I are lying :evil: . Right. :twisted:
I am more than rather!.straining my esyefethese :( posting cirvimdtanced :( With me energized now, it's brtter :| . but it's lights :cry:
Ourt in this shelter but a very bright side light. :( 9SM or so. 5 SM wake-up, Don"t feel very sleepy - and it's 5 AM wake-up. I'll have the sleep rest feditrs later I supposr :( . There is a Walgreen s" near to me on Front Street if I remember and have time I'll write about what I.dix Sunday
I still.get.money.from.the.NYS lawyer.



ASS-P the examples I gave were fairly simple to stop, we just took away ( out of sight ) the instrument of abuse. Most people are worried about being abused physically, I would think. It doesn't sound like you've been physically abused, it sounds like you were scammed. Learn from that and keep no financial records in sight...


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16 Sep 2019, 7:06 am

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...Yes, Ezra, you know everything about all care/vudtofisl situations. and since nothing has ever gone wrong with you. Perseph and I are lying :evil: . Right. :twisted:
I am more than rather!.straining my esyefethese :( posting cirvimdtanced :( With me energized now, it's brtter :| . but it's lights :cry:
Ourt in this shelter but a very bright side light. :( 9SM or so. 5 SM wake-up, Don"t feel very sleepy - and it's 5 AM wake-up. I'll have the sleep rest feditrs later I supposr :( . There is a Walgreen s" near to me on Front Street if I remember and have time I'll write about what I.dix Sunday
I still.get.money.from.the.NYS lawyer.



ASS-P the examples I gave were fairly simple to stop, we just took away ( out of sight ) the instrument of abuse. Most people are worried about being abused physically, I would think. It doesn't sound like you've been physically abused, it sounds like you were scammed. Learn from that and keep no financial records in sight...


He was not scammed in any such way that I read. I along with others would have been telling him to call the police if that had been the case.



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16 Sep 2019, 8:47 am

EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
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...Yes, Ezra, you know everything about all care/vudtofisl situations. and since nothing has ever gone wrong with you. Perseph and I are lying :evil: . Right. :twisted:
I am more than rather!.straining my esyefethese :( posting cirvimdtanced :( With me energized now, it's brtter :| . but it's lights :cry:
Ourt in this shelter but a very bright side light. :( 9SM or so. 5 SM wake-up, Don"t feel very sleepy - and it's 5 AM wake-up. I'll have the sleep rest feditrs later I supposr :( . There is a Walgreen s" near to me on Front Street if I remember and have time I'll write about what I.dix Sunday
I still.get.money.from.the.NYS lawyer.



ASS-P the examples I gave were fairly simple to stop, we just took away ( out of sight ) the instrument of abuse. Most people are worried about being abused physically, I would think. It doesn't sound like you've been physically abused, it sounds like you were scammed. Learn from that and keep no financial records in sight...


He was not scammed in any such way that I read. I along with others would have been telling him to call the police if that had been the case.


He must have felt he was about to be scammed, then. I wasn't a member here when these conversations took place, but I get the feeling that if one element of an idea of how it was supposed to be went awry, he panicked and ran. I will say that I have come across a few homeless people in my time, really spent some time getting to know them. A roof and conveniences are good for a while, but they grew tired of them. I had one really great friend who was my roommate in an actual treatment center (not the half-way house) say that 'the streets called her.' She walked off the bus one day and never looked back. I tracked her daughter down, she said her mom (my friend) passed away of addiction. But before that, someone who knew her saw her walking and called her name. She responded by saying, 'I don't know her anymore.'

I think it must get in their blood; the freedom. And you know what Janis Joplin said about freedom.


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