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29 Sep 2010, 11:09 am

I know I hate having AS, but my mum and my nan have come up with good advice for me so I can look at it in the bestest possible way, (and I hope it helps others too who also hate having it).
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It is a daft myth to say ''Aspergers is a severe condition compared to NTs'', because that is not true. Although Aspies may get anxious a lot and find things a bit more difficult, and have lower coping skills, it still doesn't mean they have a ''severe contidion''. Aspergers is a mild condition, like Dyspraxia, Dyslexia, and other learning conditions like that. Aspies can be independent and live normal lives, so the condition can't be severe. (Hope that theory has made you feel a bit better - it has me).
People with Alzheimer's or strong Epilepsy or Down's Syndrome may need more care (but even adults with Down's Syndrome can be independent), and even people with severe heart conditions or other physical conditions may not be able to lead a full, normal life, and people with mental retardation where they can't do anything for themselves will struggle through life. I think Aspies can fair off much better than people with these conditions. And people with severe Autism can't live independent lives either. On Youtube I watched a video of a young adult man with severe Autism who just spends every day hitting himself - that's all he can do. Do you think that's a normal life? If he met an Aspie, he would just class us as NTs.
So although Aspies may have a few difficulties with various things, and find it a bit harder to interact with others, all that doesn't stop them from getting married, having children, getting a home, having a job, and even driving a car. OK, most Aspies may need help to do these things, (because I do), but we still just as much chance as NTs have. So, in the long run, Aspies are normal, and although many of us wish we didn't have it (including me!) I still think that looking at it in this way is the best way to look at it, rather than going around thinking it's a severe condition just because you think a little differently to others.
My cousin's boyfriend has a 26 year old son who is in a special care home because he literally has a mental age of a 2 year old. I bet he'd do anything to be just an Aspie! They have to give him loads of sleeping pills because every waking minute of his life causes complete disaster to other people. He will never be able to get married or drive a car or have children or get a job or live independently. He hasn't even had a friend before. Aspies have much more chance of making friends than he has.
So, please consider yourself as another normal human-being. (This applies to me too - I should really think about this properly, and it might make me come to terms with things a bit more. I may need help to do these things, but I don't think I'll require much help, as long as I try and aim for my goals as I go through life.)


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29 Sep 2010, 3:36 pm

You don't think I hate having it? It's f****d with me ever since I was diagnosed. I hate having to go to the access office on campus, just so I have to go through this pathetic bureaucratic process just to get help. Screw AS and all the processes involved with it. This my friends is why I want to off myself.



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29 Sep 2010, 4:14 pm

Ackman wrote:
You don't think I hate having it? It's f**** with me ever since I was diagnosed. I hate having to go to the access office on campus, just so I have to go through this pathetic bureaucratic process just to get help. Screw AS and all the processes involved with it. This my friends is why I want to off myself.


I know, that's how I feel about it too - even though I've just wrote a big post about it. That doesn't mean I like having it, I just put it because it might help me look at it a different way. But every day it messes my thinking around, and being happy with it will make it ''win'', which I don't want it to.

I hate it when people put ''it's who I am'' because it ain't who I am. I don't even know which way to look at it really. I will always hate myself, no matter how normal I am with having it. I just hate the unconfidence it puts in me.
But I still think my mum and my nan are right and I just had to post their advice.

But I still know how you feel.


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29 Sep 2010, 11:56 pm

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It says at the bottom of this site: "Aspergers is not a disease". It bloody well is! :twisted: Its a degrading, p*ss take, the medical world should be hiding in fear from us. I for one would give them a bloody good hiding, one they would never forget.


The world should be hiding from us. When we get our wings we are going to destroy this planet.

I mean, we are going to plant this planet.



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14 Dec 2010, 8:32 pm

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I sometimes wish i was an NT but, i then think if i was an NT i would never have figured out how screwed up the world is and i never would have known so to speak the "truth" about many things, i mean if i was an NT i would be going about talking about useless things caring about clothes and who did this and why, when i should be doing what im doing now studying, learning, and figuring everything out :)

:lmao: That's basically a stereotype of NTs, that they don't know the "truth" and don't speak it. Trust me, I know many honest (even to the point of being blunt) NTs who do know how screwed up the world really is, and I learned alot later, so I'd say I'm the opposite of the first bolded statement.

I don't think caring about clothes is such a bad thing, since I do, but I don't impose it on everyone.



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15 Dec 2010, 12:48 pm

I only care about clothes in so far as they make me look presentable and keep me warm. Fashion is of no interest to me. It seems to interest some people but it is the babbling of a foreign language to me.

My AS has given me a pretty special view of the world. It took me a long time, but I'm now in a very privileged position of knowing how I think and why I think it, and sometimes applying this to NTs. Psychology and sociology fascinate me. Most people have absolutely no idea why they really do anything.

Asperger's is as much as disease as homosexuality. Hey, I have the joy of being in both camps. It's just who we are. Both states of being can cause severe problems, but not because of us - because of the Norms. It is they who cannot understand us, whose ignorance causes such difficulty. We struggle to understand them, but we know they are different. They assume we are like them, and blame us when they realise they are wrong.



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15 Dec 2010, 12:51 pm

Thom_Fuleri wrote:
Asperger's is as much as disease as homosexuality.


The two are very different. Asppergers itself causes problems. The only problems related to being gay are external - homophobia



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15 Dec 2010, 5:00 pm

Volodja wrote:
Thom_Fuleri wrote:
Asperger's is as much as disease as homosexuality.


The two are very different. Asppergers itself causes problems. The only problems related to being gay are external - homophobia


"You don't suffer from Asperger's, you suffer from other people” -Tony Attwood



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15 Dec 2010, 5:02 pm

My sensory problems etc definitely have nothing to do with other people.



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15 Dec 2010, 5:04 pm

Volodja wrote:
My sensory problems etc definitely have nothing to do with other people.


Having above average senses is only a "problem" because of other people.



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15 Dec 2010, 5:57 pm

Wrong.

Maybe that is true in your case, but not for everyone with AS



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16 Dec 2010, 11:28 am

Volodja wrote:
Wrong.

Maybe that is true in your case, but not for everyone with AS


Exactly what sensory "issues" do you have and why are they problems, then?



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16 Dec 2010, 3:49 pm

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Having above average senses is only a "problem" because of other people.


Exactly my point. I'm glad someone got it!



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23 Jan 2011, 3:31 am

I definitely agree with the OP. If someone said they could "cure" me completely of Aspergers but I'd die 10 years to the day of taking the "cure", I'd do it in a heartbeat. Aspergers holds me back from everything, making friends, forming relationships, keeping jobs, making money, etc.



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23 Jan 2011, 5:48 am

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I definitely agree with the OP. If someone said they could "cure" me completely of Aspergers but I'd die 10 years to the day of taking the "cure", I'd do it in a heartbeat. Aspergers holds me back from everything, making friends, forming relationships, keeping jobs, making money, etc.


Fifteen years ago, I've have agreed completely with this. Even ten years ago, I'd certainly give it consideration. But not now. I understand myself and my condition now, and I know how to get around it. All this social stuff is effort and scary, but I know how to do it and, if I feel it worthwhile, I will do it.

Aspergers doesn't stop you from doing these things. It only makes it harder, so we need longer to learn.



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23 Jan 2011, 5:54 am

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First of all, you don't "learn" talent. And not everything wrong with my life is attributed to aspergers, but most of it is. I have narrow interests, and I just don't wanna play sports, which people bug me about. And second of all, no, It's not my fault that I don't have a half decent social life. It's Aspergers. Don't tell me what I failed at when you don't know me.

There's no good reason to be an aspie. I'd rather just be a sheep.

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