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01 Jul 2009, 2:20 am

Best of luck, BrownBear. I think you should try talking with other people here who know a lot more than me, though.



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01 Jul 2009, 2:23 am

My reasons for going are nothing to do with you, I've read more of this forums and I fear that few if any actually consider AS to be an illness and seeking a "cure" for it is wrong since there is nothing wrong your just "different"



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01 Jul 2009, 2:33 am

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Yeah I dont think this place is for me, I am screwed up mentally, My brain doesnt work the same way as everyone else, It's defective.

"-What the hell is wrong with you TV, it doesn't respond to the remote!"
"- That's not a TV, it's a computor..."

Time to clear up some things, there are no default brains and it shouldn't be. Humanity needs variations in order to survive, as any species does. No right or wrongs, only differences, becouse the species with the most differences are the ones most likley to last the longest.

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I'm defective because the part of my brain that would make me fit in, give me normal social skills either isnt there or is messed up. To that degree I do belive that I am defective/broken

Everything comes at a price. You can't have it all.

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Yeah I dont think this place is for me, I am screwed up mentally, My brain doesnt work the same way as everyone else, It's defective.

Naw... poor you... all so lonely, we could never understand how it would feel to be different from everyone els... :roll:
Get a grip man! Here we're all like that, that's why we're here.

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But to answer your question, yes, I've been bullied all of my life by kids and adults alike. I have attempted to practice the eyecontact and smalltalk with "friends" It only drove them away, I dont dare ask my family. To them i'm their crowning glory being the only child and only grandchild and they see my job and life as being good, I will not shatter that.

Yes yes, buhu, we've been there too most of us. Talk to your mum, you said she knew (and understod/accepted?).

Take a good look at nature, as soon as a predator comes by all others either runs or (if they feel safe) starts to harass it.
A hawk can't be a seagull. So don't try, you're doomed to fail. We're hawks, we're meant to fly alone, but we can learn to act as seagulls if we need it.


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01 Jul 2009, 2:35 am

AS ISN'T an illness, as such- it's a neurological condition. You can't "cure" it- it's just the way your brain has been wired.

You can learn how to adapt to it, though. A lot of people on WP are unhappy about having AS and try to work out how to deal with the demands of family life and the workplace. You could probably learn a lot here, particularly from some of the older people.

Edit: That wasn't very helpful, Silvervarq- why attack someone who's unhappy? That's not really in the spirit of Wrong Planet, is it?



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01 Jul 2009, 2:41 am

Thanks but no thanks, If i'm still breathing I will always be trying to find a way to cure AS and rid the curse from me. Nature likes things different but we as humans are social creatures, AS strips that from us and thus AS is an evolutionary deadend

Like I said I dont want to accept this illness/defect/thing, I'd rather focus on changing myself to fit in



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01 Jul 2009, 2:49 am

You can work on your social skills here, and at least you'll get some support. I certainly understand the need for social skills- I'm NT, remember? It worries me that you see yourself so negatively, though. If you're going to cope socially, you're going to need some self-esteem, and finding some like-minded people here may help you with that. At least think about it, ok?



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01 Jul 2009, 3:00 am

jennyishere wrote:
That wasn't very helpful, Silvervarg- why attack someone who's unhappy? That's not really in the spirit of Wrong Planet, is it?

Some people need a slap of reality when pity get the better of them. ^^

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Nature likes things different but we as humans are social creatures, AS strips that from us and thus AS is an evolutionary deadend

None is happy being someone they're not. This is very intersting, you've been trying to act NT all your life and end up miserable whilst people who accept themselves as they are are content with life, and you refuse to make peace with yourself.
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01 Jul 2009, 3:28 am

"Slapping" people who need support isn't really useful, Silvervarg. He already felt bad about himself and your comments were very negative. YOU might be content with "being yourself" but he clearly ISN'T at the moment- try to see things from his point of view for a minute. I suppose you may have trouble doing that, though- I don't know what your grasp of "Theory of Mind" is like.



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01 Jul 2009, 4:16 am

Yes it is, when they're simply refusing to see the world for what it is.


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01 Jul 2009, 6:12 am

And how DO you see the world, Silvervarg? People aren't just hawks and seagulls- it's not that simple. Are you so sure your view of things is the only right one? Maybe he sees the world differently- I know I do.



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01 Jul 2009, 7:58 am

I may end up miserable but atleast i'll belong with the norm, i'd rather that than be happy and live in my own world where AS is accpepted and normal


This is why i dont think WP is for me, I see this as something thats wrong with me that needs to be fixed, I will never accept it as who I am and unfairly expect people around me to work around AS. Im not the norm and thus the norm should never have to change things for me



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01 Jul 2009, 8:17 am

I don't think you have to choose between the people here at WP and the "norm". There IS no real "norm", anyway, there are just people- but I know that's all too easy for me to say. There are a lot of honest, intelligent and nice people here at WP- that's why I pop in regularly, even though I belong fully to your "norm". Besides, you don't really feel like you belong with the norm at the moment, do you?

You need people to talk to about your AS and if you can't talk about it with your family, friends or workmates, here is a safe, anonymous place to do it. I think you can learn a lot here, BrownBear- I know I have.