To all the aspies that think they're worthless

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04 Jul 2009, 8:51 pm

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if you reduced me to the elements i an composed of, and sold each of those elements, then i would be worth about $45 i think.


You got any gold teeth, or titanium pins in your legs? :D



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04 Jul 2009, 9:21 pm

Well I feel pretty worthless right now... If I were to disappear, nobody would care...

One time I de-friended almost everyone on facebook because I wasn't feeling in a social enough mood... it took months for anybody to even notice...



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06 Jul 2009, 12:44 pm

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Well I feel pretty worthless right now... If I were to disappear, nobody would care...

Many people here would care if you did that.

One time I de-friended almost everyone on facebook because I wasn't feeling in a social enough mood... it took months for anybody to even notice...


Did you have a webcam conversation with them, or did you write? If you wrote to them, you could choose to write something else, because it's possible to do it even if you are in a bad mood.



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06 Jul 2009, 12:46 pm

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
Well I feel pretty worthless right now... If I were to disappear, nobody would care...

One time I de-friended almost everyone on facebook because I wasn't feeling in a social enough mood... it took months for anybody to even notice...


Many people here would care if you died, wouldn't it be nice to see the end of life? Did you have a webcam conversation with them, or did you write? If you wrote to them, you could choose to write something else, because it's possible to do it even if you are in a bad mood.



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06 Jul 2009, 1:02 pm

My situation is worse than feeling worthless. In spite of feeling very worthy, I'm massively rejected. And that means that I can't even support myself.


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06 Jul 2009, 1:18 pm

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Many people here would care if you died, wouldn't it be nice to see the end of life?

I'm not talking so much about dying or anything like that... I'm talking about what would happen if I were to discreetly withdraw from any social groups I'm involved in... almost nobody outside of my immediate family and a few people at my church would even know I was gone...

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Did you have a webcam conversation with them, or did you write? If you wrote to them, you could choose to write something else, because it's possible to do it even if you are in a bad mood.

I did neither, I was just surreptitiously removing friends from my friend list on facebook... it doesn't generate any notification, and unless someone tried to look at a friends list and see if I was still on it, they wouldn't have any other idea. The whole point of the project was to see if people would notice that I did that... they didn't see it...



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06 Jul 2009, 4:11 pm

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My situation is worse than feeling worthless. In spite of feeling very worthy, I'm massively rejected. And that means that I can't even support myself.


It looks like the people you're hanging around with don't give a s*** about you, so why care about them?



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06 Jul 2009, 4:17 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Many people here would care if you died, wouldn't it be nice to see the end of life?

I'm not talking so much about dying or anything like that... I'm talking about what would happen if I were to discreetly withdraw from any social groups I'm involved in... almost nobody outside of my immediate family and a few people at my church would even know I was gone...

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Did you have a webcam conversation with them, or did you write? If you wrote to them, you could choose to write something else, because it's possible to do it even if you are in a bad mood.

I did neither, I was just surreptitiously removing friends from my friend list on facebook... it doesn't generate any notification, and unless someone tried to look at a friends list and see if I was still on it, they wouldn't have any other idea. The whole point of the project was to see if people would notice that I did that... they didn't see it...


Why don't you just tell them you're an aspie and that you we're in bad mood, and you didn't mean it, if they don't forgive you, WHY CARE about them?



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06 Jul 2009, 4:27 pm

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I've made absolutely no contribution to society because i am worthless
Ladyhawke has made a contribution to society because she is a talented individual

I don't really see what this has to do with me having autism.

Not to mention you should not be telling worthless people that they are not worthless. People should not be content with being worthless, they need a motivational push that does not come from being content with the status quo, which appears to be my problem.


Which society? Society is everywhere... do you consider yourself worthless even if you change the lives of a loyal few? You need not view yourself in this way.

Just because people tell those who feel they're worthless that they're not (and they mean it you know) they're not saying you have to simply sit back and be content with something if you feel there is something to be done. It's not meant to stunt people's growth.


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08 Jul 2009, 8:21 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:
Well I feel pretty worthless right now... If I were to disappear, nobody would care...

I have discovered the hard way, that many folks have little patience with "Poor little me" and/or victim attitudes. I don't know you at all, and here you are telling me how you expect me to receive you. If that's not a glowing example of prejudice, I don't know what is. My close friends will tell you that I am very accepting, and I tend to hand out hundreds of second chances even to people who wound my feelings, but you may never discover that since you apparently have your eyes only on yourself.

I have been where you are. Not for the same reason, but feeling rejected produces the same feelings regardless of the cause. I had to learn to forgive those who bullied me, and those who mistreated me because they didn't understand me. Aspies and Auties don't have a corner on differentness.

As for Greentea's situation, I don't know enough of the particulars to give an opinion, but I have learned from experience that if you expect to be rejected, or if you expect to be fired, many people can see that attitude in you with out you even talking about it, and yes, I know, when you actually have been fired a lot it's hard to not have that attitude. I'm sorry you have had so much trouble remaining employed, but I kind of resent being grouped, as an NT, with those who have given you problems.



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09 Jul 2009, 3:21 am

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if you reduced me to the elements i an composed of, and sold each of those elements, then i would be worth about $45 i think.


If you market the different body parts well, a human body is worth thousands of dollars.


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09 Jul 2009, 12:29 pm

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b9 wrote:
if you reduced me to the elements i an composed of, and sold each of those elements, then i would be worth about $45 i think.


If you market the different body parts well, a human body is worth thousands of dollars.


THIS MAKES NO SENSE...



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09 Jul 2009, 1:09 pm

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
GoatOnFire wrote:
b9 wrote:
if you reduced me to the elements i an composed of, and sold each of those elements, then i would be worth about $45 i think.


If you market the different body parts well, a human body is worth thousands of dollars.


THIS MAKES NO SENSE...

Am I missing the intention of your statement? It's a supply and demand thing. If you need a new liver to stay alive and you have the money to purchase one, you might pay a high premium if that is the only way you can accomplish your goal.

But if your statement is a vent, please disregard my post.



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10 Jul 2009, 1:07 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Many people here would care if you died, wouldn't it be nice to see the end of life?

I'm not talking so much about dying or anything like that... I'm talking about what would happen if I were to discreetly withdraw from any social groups I'm involved in... almost nobody outside of my immediate family and a few people at my church would even know I was gone...

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Did you have a webcam conversation with them, or did you write? If you wrote to them, you could choose to write something else, because it's possible to do it even if you are in a bad mood.

I did neither, I was just surreptitiously removing friends from my friend list on facebook... it doesn't generate any notification, and unless someone tried to look at a friends list and see if I was still on it, they wouldn't have any other idea. The whole point of the project was to see if people would notice that I did that... they didn't see it...


Why don't you just tell them you're an aspie and that you we're in bad mood, and you didn't mean it, if they don't forgive you, WHY CARE about them?


I remember when ToadofSteel was contemplating that act. It was on the love and dating forum. He was irritated with all the happy couples and people dating and showing off the highlights of their life. That can make a lonely person feel more alone. I can understand why he did that. The fact that I remember shows that someone noticed you. Even though it's just me and not a real friend, it still shows that you have had some impact on someone who holds you in high regard. I think if you want to reconnect with your old friends, just add them again and if they ask just tell them the truth. It's actually quite funny if you look at it that way.


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14 Jul 2009, 7:45 am

I AM FLAWLESS, I AM THE ULTIMATE CREATION, SECOND TO NONE, I AM PERFECT, NO CREATURE IS MORE SUPERIOR THAN ME!!



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14 Jul 2009, 8:05 am

SilverStar wrote:
b9 wrote:
if you reduced me to the elements i an composed of, and sold each of those elements, then i would be worth about $45 i think.


You got any gold teeth, or titanium pins in your legs? :D


no all my teeth are normal, and i have no artificial elements in my body.

but as far as organ value is concerned, i recently found out that a human can be worth up to $500,000 as viable spare parts for transplants, and to a lesser degree, my body is worth good money to be sold as a cadaver to anatomical schools. they pay $1500 for a set of knees, and $2000 for the wrists and hands etc.

people will pay $50,000+ for a working kidney or $100,000+ for a working liver etc (for transplant purposes).

but i was saying what the raw mineral worth of my body is worth. as in raw material decomposition.

all worth is notional anyway.