Alternatives to Suicide

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Yes, CockneyRebel, a truer word was never said.

I might not mind taking my own life, but leading somebody else to take theirs? Nope. If I can't do anything right, at least let me not do something so heinously wrong.

Suicide is only a permanent solution to a temporary problem if you're having temporary problems. I will never be female no matter what I do...

Is it that difficult round where you live?

That does not sound comforting at all, especially to a suicidal person; the worst part is that it makes light of the misery that person is feeling. To them, choosing life = choosing misery. I also had people tell me "you'll go to hell" when I mentioned suicide in the past. Even to this day (when I'm nowhere near suicidal), I'm fully convinced that whatever happens in hell can't possibly be much worse than the circumstances that drive people to suicide.

Suicide isn't an escape it's an end. Alternatives would be finding something you'd enjoy doing and then doing those things. Maybe talking with family would help or a counselor, I don't really know specifically but suicide doesn't help people escape anything it just ends any chance that they'd enjoy life later on. I've thought about it many times and I'm glad I didn't ever act b/c while I thought about it I worked and went to school, I planned a future even though it was a sad life I didn't want it to end. Also something that helped me deal with it and may not be the best advice I'm sure but I decided to hate the world that treated me so badly and I lived on in spite of it's attempts to ruin me.....

Oh, my gosh. Partial moment of clarity there, thank you. I don't suppose there's a method to prevent one's self from continuing down this path, one that does not involve medication seeing as I'm fifteen years old and, as of a few minutes ago, living a lie? =D

Quote for truth.

I'm surprised nobody made more of this. I did some similar things when I was thinking of suicide - not giving away money (didn't have any) or hanging out with the homeless, but same idea. I walked a lot of train tracks (just to explore, not to get hit by a train), checked out neighborhoods on the bus I never went to before, ate in some new restaurants, some slightly riskier things I won't go into. But the gist of it is, since suicide is permanent and suffering in this life might not be, try EVERYTHING else first, even weird or dangerous things. What happened to mjs82 happened to me as well - the odd, new things I had seen and done gave me a bit of a new perspective. They were even kind of fun, a little bit. And noticing that they were fun led to realizing it was still possible to enjoy being alive, even if the enjoyment was mild or fleeting and easily interrupted by pain and depression.
Some other people listed some logical downsides to suicide already: hurting your loved ones, how it'll suck if you don't die but only get seriously mangled, etc. But the one I would reiterate the loudest is, it doesn't solve all of your problems, just the need to deal with them. If I had killed myself over depression about being an old virgin, I would have died a virgin - problem not solved, just avoided forever. I hung around and managed to solve that problem for real. Maybe I can do the same for my other problems, despite the recurrence of poverty, depression, etc.
I have my days, don't get me wrong. I sleep a lot and love sleeping and going to bed and going back to bed, and death sometimes sounds tempting in the sense of going to sleep and never waking up to face more BS. But each time I skipped suicide and hung around another year or two, I had some interesting and worthwhile experiences.
On an entirely different note, I found a way for hatred to keep me alive. I live next door to some worthless s**theads, intolerable white trash who keep f*****g with me, and we've almost gotten in fistfights. Whenever I think of suicide now I realize what a travesty that would be if I offed myself while those walking, talking cockroaches continued to waste oxygen and other resources. I need to outlive them so I can piss on their graves.

Suicide is actually a very individual thing. For most people, it meant the pain of their situation exceeded their ability to cope with it. You're assuming others who kill themselves are doing it with the same frame of mind you'd have.

I'm sure if you were to commit suicide, it would be extremely ego(t)istical.

At one point I was suicidal. I figured the only way to make my family / friends/ everyone who kept dumping emotional baggage on me happy would be to kill myself. I also didn't like who I was very much. Thinking it through I decided the better alternative would be to "fake suicide" I stopped talking to everyone who kept putting me down. I moved and didn't give out my phone number. I decided to take some time out figuring out who I wanted to be and how I could become that person. Now I'm married, have 2 beautiful kids and a nice future ahead of me. Aside from some health problems I have achieved becoming the person I wanted to be. Moral of the story, don't physically kill yourself, - reinvent yourself.

The only thing that deters some people is that most methods of suicide are brutal and not guaranteed success.

I have a collection of several hundred pills of amitriptyline to overdose on when the time comes but I could theoretically survive and be kept on a life support machine for 50 years or something horrific of that kind. Or the process of dying itself might be drawn out and intensely painful, with convulsions, fit, difficulty breathing, and coma occurring before the Blessed Release.

Life is hell but death is even worse ....

I carry a Do Not Revive order in my wallet, along with a Power of Attorney in favor of my sister, who does not know this. I'm not actively suicidal now but have been and probably will be again. I think if you write it in your own handwriting and get it witnessed. You don't need big notarized documents. The web will have samples.

When Mom had alzheimer's we found out those were the most important documents. Same re Will - mine says: "All to my sister, with strong suggestion that she refuse the estate.") I have no assets and much debt. Why should she bother to inherit that?

Great post. I like the approach. Do 'crazy' things that you wouldn't otherwise think of. Being in a suicidal mind frame gives you the ability to make radical changes. You already want to die, so why not? In the process you may find things that make life more interesting or worth living for.

My plan is to take 15g (yes, that's 15,000mg or 300 pills!) of amitriptyline mixed with promethazine (to prevent me throwing it all back up) and 20 or so benzos (which should hopefully cause me to blackout and, fingers crossed, allow my body to die without my brain feeling the agonizing pain).

Hope to do it soon. It's the only way!

Self-actualize.

If you've gotten to the point of feeling like the world really means it, that no one's loveable or 'okay' without a good amount of achievement to back it up - pursue excellence in certain things and devote yourself to the process in such a way to where you know that you need to go on with it, otherwise life in a sense won't be worth living because the quality of what you'll get back from the world around you will legitimately be crap.

That doesn't at all mean that you need to pound on yourself to get good at something immediately or get it perfect, you just need to dedicate yourself to the learning process, let the process and the act of 'becoming' be a meditation and something to feel great about in and of itself. As you climb these hills you will feel better and better about what you've been able to stack in your favor. Even with meager means there's always something - even having internet at a minimum is enough.