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18 Feb 2011, 8:32 pm

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This thread is (inadvertently) hilarious.


Thanks... I'm trying my best.

Going to bed, now. Goodnight.

Sleep well, and we will all try to talk softly as you do!


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18 Feb 2011, 9:49 pm

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I am curious: Where did you hear "god" is "a supporter of rape and whatnot"?

I have never before heard anyone say that.

In one of the old testament stories, almost certainly an after the fact justification, the ancient Israelites believed they were commanded by "god" to go into a new land and kill every man, woman, and child there, even the beasts of the fields and the other animals kept by these people. Except the Israelites were "disobedient" and took some of these women as "wives." And, Yeah, in part of describing what's so horrendous about this course of conduct, I think it would be accurate to include rape. Yeah, you could check that box.

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Christian "god" (old testament) not very ethical
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3388327 ... t=#3388327
I briefly talk about how this was presented to my high school Sunday School class without the slightest bit of irony. This was during my post-Christian period in 10th or 11th grade (age 16 and 17). I am now atheist/agnostic thank you very much. :D The biggest reason is that religion did not work for me personally. But all these other reasons, the intellectual side, yes, it does make me more comfortable with the decision. And of course we can do a better job of ethics, mere by scribbling a few random thoughts on a napkin! (and then build from there, get some interchange going between theory and practice, etc )



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18 Feb 2011, 11:34 pm

I think I believe in both true love and wild fantasy. :D When I was younger, I believed in swinging, at least it's honest! it's an honest way to do what I want to do anyway, but then, really felt like more self-imposed obligation because someone says I should (some writer of a book, or Penthouse letters, sure you've heard of them, but the heyday, ah, that was probably before your time). I might more like to get into one woman and share wild flights of fantasy with her.
Some of my fantasies are of spanking and dominance and submission. Well, spanking, that's so common, that's almost mainstream! Except it's not. It might seem that way, Madonna's 'Hanky Panky' (esp the video, esp the 'Truth or Dare' version, such good fun), the movie 'Secretary,' so on and so forth. But, in point of fact, no, not everyone likes spanking, but I sure do! Including written fantasies of nonconsenual, which can make me feel guilty as s**t.
I used to quote the philosopher Jeremy Bentham, 'Wars and storms are best to read of, but peace and calms are better to endure.' That fantasy is one thing, real life is another.

But now, I kind of view it as a gift, kind of as a language I understand that not everyone does. So, for example, I see through a lot of the workplace authoritarianism as stupid. Gee, if you're going to do this, do it tongue in cheek and do it right. It's a game. It's fantasy (and a delicious one)

I have had three separate girlfriends into wild stuff! :D I just wish that I communicated better, in particular that I need more alone time. Well, now I am more in tune with my Aspie side and can be honest and forthright about that. I had one girlfriend who was very sweet and plain vanilla. I wish I would have taken more medium chances. She might have gamely gone along with some of this. Not just one dimension to play, but any of the above five (so to speak) or she can perhaps suggest an adventure of her own choosing. That's kind of where I am now, medium risk, feedback, another medium risk. The implementation can be tricky. I also enjoy really great make-out sessions and cuddling in the movies.



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19 Feb 2011, 2:58 am

Do you really want to kill yourself, or do you just want out of what you're going through? Is there nothing you want to do before ending your life? An accomplishment, a task, anything, while you're still here? There's no future to live for, or do you perceive yourself to be unable to create a future to live for?

If you still want to kill yourself, then why? It's challenging, but if you're in such a position, I have to ask you to ask yourself the challenging questions first. Why do you want to die?

You haven't specified your age, but unless you're really old, there's always something that you can do so that you don't leave the world with any regrets. An artistic output. A vacation. A friend. Extra sleep to catch up on. The list could go on. There's something - at least one thing - you still want to do, and you deserve to make it happen, whatever it is. It may or may not be difficult, but it's worth at least another effort. If that fails? It's worth another effort. And another. And so on. If you cut your life short, if you don't believe there's anything after, then there really is nothing after. That's not ending on a good note; you couldn't come back ever again, you're ending your life at a point you're not happy with, and

Just so you know, true love is hard to come across for many people. I'm probably not the best to speak in this topic, as I've never been in a relationship or even tried. Nevertheless, you're not the only person who's been in that boat, and it's not a good reason to kill yourself, nor is it a good reason to think you should.

And meh, if you're feeling low on energy, and you're sure you're getting enough sleep (lack of sleep, after a certain point, certainly doesn't help this line of thinking), eating/exercising healthy or whatever, all that, and you feel you have no issues to work out or come to terms with, (I know this is asking a lot, as I'm not even 100% on all this myself, and I've been depressed lately) then likely, seeing a psychiatrist and/or therapist would help.

Just don't make any irreversible decisions. :wink:

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God loves you. This is what God says about you! You are honored, you are precious in His eyes (Isaiah 43:4). Isn't that an amazing thing?

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I don't know if you know, but when you come across someone who says they're going to kill themselves, and try to stop them, that isn't the way to go about it. Speaking from personal experience, when someone is suicidal, even if they are Christian, spitting bible verses left and right at them and repeating the same thing that's always been said over and over before are rarely ever helpful.



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19 Feb 2011, 5:59 am

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I give up.


I found a girl over the Internet, in April of 2008, that I loved. But the love was not fated, true love. It was fake. She was unfaithful to me in July, the following year. "At least we never met", I later thought. "At least I'm still a virgin', I cheered myself with.

>>> Had sex it's not all that it's overated to be. quite disappointed really.

Then I now have found out that mildly to very sexual manga and anime won't just get illegal in Europe, but in Japan, too. My only interest that remains is taken away from me. It is, in fact, my *only* remaining interest.

>>> This law is unenforcable. The internet is a nationless frontier. Visit American hentai sites. And watch the s**t hit the fan, once Japan or Europe tries to block their Ips.


I just don't want to live in this world, anymore. I have really tried to find true love. I really have. It's just enough, now. It's enough. If some "higher power" has been testing me, it has tested me past my limit. I have always tried to stay strong. Always tried to remain optimistic. I always am kind to people around me. Most people end up liking me. But of course, behind the kindness and extroversion that is mixed with my introversion is a pure sadness and bitterness, and hatred. I am always right at the edge. Always. But all the time I have managed to convince myself of a bright future with my true love... so I have managed to lie to myself. I was not born here for any other reason than this one: I was just meant to unhappily end my life. That is all there is for me. I see it, now.

>>> So essensially you're going to kill yourself over Hentai?!?!?! !. Well I get to finally say this adage of the elderly "kids these days", and "things will improve". They will, People will actually condemn the legislatures for wasting valuable time and tax dollars coming up with these trivial laws. And these old prudes will end up having Bleep on their faces...


I wonder how my mother will react when she finds my dead body? How much will she cry? Will she hit my dead body out of sorrow? Will I be able to make my spiritual presence known?

>>> ha ha ha ha Strausborg school of acting?


I just have to move out, before I do it. Move to my apartment that I've had for years. Haha, yes, years - haven't had the energy to move out for four years. Still live with my parents, haha. Well, I know many do, here; you here who do do not have to be ashamed - I understand how hard it can be. The damned routine of doing nothing. Haven't had a working computer for years, either.... five years and eight months, actually. I know perfectly well how to put one together, but no energy, and I don't like laptops.

I guess that's all I have to say.



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19 Feb 2011, 6:02 am

Beauty_pact wrote:
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What is a loser?

Someone who quits too early, and you still have way too much energy to stop doing what you do!


I don't have energy, though. Why do you think I still live at home, despite having an apartment? Not because I like it.

I just want to die. Die die die die die. Die. Die.


>>> could be worse you could be doing this in China, in an apartment with no heat.



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19 Feb 2011, 10:11 am

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[Pointless evangelism]


Go away. He does neither need or want you forcing your faith upon him.

On a somehow even more ranting note: Jamenvafan då. :(



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19 Feb 2011, 12:31 pm

Postures wrote:
This thread is (inadvertently) hilarious.


*nods*

He's a Swede there is no way he's going to buy in to your religious BS.

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I know who loves you more then anyone. GOD.

blah blah blah blahde blah etc.


Please shut up.


Haha, golden.


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19 Feb 2011, 12:37 pm

I tried sending messages to convince him not to do it, although regardless of whether hes religious or not, at least JennyPenny 901 had at least good intentions, even if it was a tad to scripture heavy for my taste.



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19 Feb 2011, 9:42 pm

I'm doing better, now. My obsession with frequent sex with my future-found true love ended up making me feel much better, even before I went to bed, and I slept for about nineteen hours... strangely with tons of dreams... I have dreamt so little, recently, but I dreamt very much, this time...

I don't think I really wanted to die, yet. I just tried to convince myself that it's time for me to die, since I'm so fed up with how my life is. To the person who asked, I'm 29. I have it stated in my profile, instead, since this forum requires you to disclose your date of birth, as well, if you want to show your age, and I'd never disclose that, openly.

As for the ecchi and hentai becoming illegal thing, and even some shôjo and shônen... there is still hope, and even if it does become illegal in the whole EU, and not just in Sweden, at least it'll cost a lot of money to uphold the law and people can't possibly accept this - not in France, anyway, and most of us know that France has a huge impact on the rest of the EU. And I can't believe that the Japanese will accept that new law, there, either; apparently there's been a lot of protestation. Apparently, it also only is enforceable in Tokyo, but that is, of course, only temporary; it's merely starting out, there, as an attempt to start enforcing it "carefully", with it, with time, spreading to the rest of the country. Even if the Japanese, in general, don't realize what's going on, which I doubt, and even if much of regular manga and anime becomes illegal in the rest of the EU, and not just in Sweden, you can't just let these hardcore prudes win. I, personally, easily would do some very "severe" things to maybe eventually overturn it. Laws mean nothing to me. Nothing whatsoever. The law is for the weak to follow, at best. It merely upsets me that these sorts of legislations may have an impact that may become permanent. But I will not accept this. It may seem funny that someone with these views is considering a political career... but it's not so, at all. Of course, I would not openly state that I don't give a shìt what the law says...

For those who suggested therapy.... I'm already seeing a therapist, but not because it's helping me in any way. I have other, more sneaky reasons for doing it. The therapist isn't bad in any way, though; I just can't be helped in that way. True love is the only definite cure for me. I have proof for that, even, since that girl that I met in 2008, I did indeed imagine was my true love, and this made me get an energy and will to get better that I have never seen in myself, before. At least meeting her made me snap out of the routine of doing nothing, and my past exceptional obsession with keeping things clean, that went so far that it was contra-productive in so many ways; very ironic how you may act when you obsess over the avoidance of filth. I'm not yet out of it, and never will be, entirely, but I'm doing much better, now, mainly because I met her and became determined that I had to be able to take care of her, and I would indeed have been able to do it if it would've gotten to us actually being with each other, and if the love indeed had been true... so considering what this fake "true love" did for me, I know for sure that true love would be my cure, as it would be for her; just total bliss, due to us being together, as one... -_- both sexually and not sexually. And those who say that sex is overrated... you just don't get the view of people like me. With sex under true love being the most important thing in life - and that includes the afterlife - you will do everything to make it as perfect as it can be; both physically and spiritually.

For the guy who agreed and talked about "god's" condoning of rape and enslavement, in the old testament.... just to be clear, I was never a christian. I was just born into it, and baptized. Which is a bit funny, since neither of my parents seem to ever have believed in that religion. I realized it was bullshìt when I was a child, already; I heard about how god sent the wrongdoers to hell for eternity, and even as a child, I could not understand how you could punish the soul of a being for eternity, when the soul isn't responsible, anyway... and even if it had been... punishing someone for eternity is just sick, regardless what it was responsible for. I remember how very disappointed I was that it was so fake, and I disregarded the crap and never looked back.

Going to make a big cup of tea, now.... took some time to write this with my numeric keypad on my mobile. It's in the middle of the night, over here, but I woke up just five and a half hours ago so I'll just be skipping sleep, tonight, and have a really strong cup of tea, now.... maybe I can go to my apartment, in the morning, and get done some of the few things I have left to do, before I can move there. I'm almost certain that my life will get better, once I finally live by my own. Oh, and thanks to the person who felt I'm too awesome to die... I'm glad I'm appreciated.



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20 Feb 2011, 6:40 am

Since most manga and anime now is illegal in Sweden, I'm going to test my fate. Earlier, I ordered *everything* they have on a bishôjo game website, in the US. If the Swedish customs confiscate it and I later get charged for possession of "child pornography", I'm going to kill myself... in front of my therapist, after telling the therapist what's happened... bleeding to death after having cut my throat. The bleeding won't be possible to stop since I know what substance to take to cause excessive, unstoppable bleeding.

If, however, the customs don't end up doing anything, I will make security copies of everything I bought, for future reference, for long after my death, since these games soon will be illegal in most of the world. Unfortunately, it'll be the majority of manga and anime that becomes illegal, too... I don't have the money for all that, so I'll have to start downloading everything that truly must be saved for the future.



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20 Feb 2011, 7:15 am

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If, however, the customs don't end up doing anything, I will make security copies of everything I bought, for future reference, for long after my death, since these games soon will be illegal in most of the world. Unfortunately, it'll be the majority of manga and anime that becomes illegal, too... I don't have the money for all that, so I'll have to start downloading everything that truly must be saved for the future.

I think that is your best plan!


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20 Feb 2011, 7:26 am

[quote="Beauty_pact"]Since most manga and anime now is illegal in Sweden, I'm going to test my fate. Earlier, I ordered *everything* they have on a bishôjo game website, in the US. If the Swedish customs confiscate it and I later get charged for possession of "child pornography", I'm going to kill myself... in front of my therapist, after telling the therapist what's happened... bleeding to death after having cut my throat. The bleeding won't be possible to stop since I know what substance to take to cause excessive, unstoppable bleeding.

>>> I like the part where Rick Flair goes Wooooooo when the Hurricans won the Stanley Cup.



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20 Feb 2011, 7:31 am

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I think that is your best plan!


I kind of like the thought of the first one, too. :/ Man I hate my life.

I bought it all with lended money, by the way. ^_^ It all cost over 1300 dollars. If I don't get continued disability, soon, which isn't entirely certain, then I won't be able to pay it back. But if I don't get that disability money, I had planned on killing myself, anyway, so I guess it wouldn't matter.



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20 Feb 2011, 7:34 am

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>>> I like the part where Rick Flair goes Wooooooo when the Hurricans won the Stanley Cup.


The hell are you talking about...?



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20 Feb 2011, 5:07 pm

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. . . For the guy who agreed and talked about "god's" condoning of rape and enslavement, in the old testament.... just to be clear, I was never a christian. I was just born into it, and baptized. Which is a bit funny, since neither of my parents seem to ever have believed in that religion. I realized it was bullshìt when I was a child, already; I heard about how god sent the wrongdoers to hell for eternity, and even as a child, I could not understand how you could punish the soul of a being for eternity, when the soul isn't responsible, anyway... and even if it had been... punishing someone for eternity is just sick, regardless what it was responsible for. I remember how very disappointed I was that it was so fake, and I disregarded the crap and never looked back. . .

You're ahead of where I was.! I grew up with it, America can be a pretty religious place, and the South even more so. America has many, many very good qualities, such as a sense of optimism, a large middle class, we have a pretty large percentage of our population attending at least some college, there are beliefs at least in medium circulation that people should be treated fairly and no one is better than anyone else (at the same time we worship celebrities and can have authoritarian workplaces, for we all people afterall, flaws and all), and I wish we weren't so religious. So, anyway, to me, it seemed 'normal.' And plus, my Dad was often—and can often still be--an authoritarian, blameful individual.

Religion did not work for me personally. Especially this part I read in this book about being "filled with the spirit" Then I secretly read some of my Mom’s old books on religion in the garage the summer after my first year in high school. And he fact that there were different religions each believing mutually contradictory things pretty much did it for me.

It wasn't until my 20s that I started thinking, that even if the Christian "god" existed he is not a very ethical being. For starters, he sure doesn't seem to have much of a sense of humor! Why this insistence that he be worshipped all the time and this really ill-temper if he's not. Etc.

Tricky stuff. We as humans can do better without religion or with a real loosey-goosey version!



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