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06 Sep 2011, 9:25 pm

That is definatly abuse.



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07 Sep 2011, 12:07 pm

Giftorcurse, at this point you are more mature than your parents. In theory, you could now coach them but that would be a terrible dynamic and would not work more than occasionally. In general, until you can find another place to live on good terms and your own terms, you want to live in the house but not live there so to speak. Do your own thing and at times engage in a medium way and leave it at that. One tactic is the method of measured disclosure. For example, if you've decided that you like the field of environmental engineering, tell your parents you are considering different fields in engineering. You are being private but not secretive. You are running one behind the curve as far as what you reveal to them. (and if they aggressively push, matter-of-factly deflect.) Please keep your eyes on college as both good for your own future, on your own terms, and as a perfect opportunity/excuse to get decent living arrangements away from your parents.

And, as discussed yesterday, living with your grandmother is a definite possibility, but for various reasons may not work out. And it sure helps to have a back-up.



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07 Sep 2011, 2:47 pm

There's often a biochem component to depression, which I have bouts with myself. I have not tried any antidepressants yet although I am warming to the idea.

The book seems to be that something like Cymbalta or Zoloft might work great for some people, not do a thing for other people, and no doctor in the world can predict in advance. It's just that human biochem, esp of neurotransmitters, is both complex and highly individual.
Treating depression can be hit or miss (2009 article)
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt163505.html

One upshot is that you can use either a psychiatrist or a 'regular' doctor like an internist, and that choice is up to you. I personally have found so-called mental health professionals to often be big egotists. Other people have had more positive experiences and more power to them.



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11 Sep 2011, 9:47 am

A lowlife teacher told my parents that I'm missing a couple of assignments, and they've been guilt tripping me.


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12 Sep 2011, 12:51 pm

tomboy4good wrote:
AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
Giftorcurse wrote:
. . . -Father showed no empathy when I ended up in a psych ward for attempting suicide. . .

With all due respect, the two previous posters are mistaken. This is arguably the most abusive one of all.


empathy: –noun
1. the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.
2. the imaginative ascribing to an object, as a natural object or work of art, feelings or attitudes present in oneself: By means of empathy, a great painting becomes a mirror of the self.


Empathy is also a symptom of Aspergers. It doesn't mean the dad didn't feel bad about his son, it just means he didn't react. It can be abusive, but it depends on the person. Lacking empathy can be a serious personality defect. I left out whether it's abusive or not because unfortunately the situation makes it subjective. Obviously his feelings were hurt by lack of empathy. I can see why. Feelings are never wrong...you'll notice that I did not question his emotions.

Being compared with his brother I think is just as bad. All people are individuals....related or not. You cannot even expect identical twins to act in the identically same way though some do. They are still individuals. My dad used to compare me to his favorite too (his dog). He told me I should be more like him. That's very damaging because it tells the child that he/she doesn't measure up to their standards. It can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Also neither parent shows any sympathy towards this young man, & the fact that they torment him could leave lasting affects. (Not their fault? Oh yes, it is, but they'll never admit it.) I also included the definition.

sympathy: noun, plural -thies, adjective
noun
1. harmony of or agreement in feeling, as between persons or on the part of one person with respect to another.
2. the harmony of feeling naturally existing between persons of like tastes or opinion or of congenial dispositions.
3. the fact or power of sharing the feelings of another, especially in sorrow or trouble; fellow feeling, compassion, or commiseration.
4. sympathies,
a. feelings or impulses of compassion.
b. feelings of favor, support, or loyalty: It's hard to tell where your sympathies lie.
5. favorable or approving accord; favor or approval: He viewed the plan with sympathy and publicly backed it.


An NT has no excuse for lacking empathy other than being a selfish jackass. These types of people deserve the worst kind of torture.



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15 Sep 2011, 12:00 pm

Giftorcurse wrote:
A lowlife teacher told my parents that I'm missing a couple of assignments, and they've been guilt tripping me.

I myself like the method, that even if behind in a class, jump ahead anyway. And if you really know a subject, you can aim for a B (actually have to know a subject better to aim for a B!), then your parents won't have much of an opportunity to play stage parent either.

Of course, you shouldn't have to do all this. I hope in the relatively near future you can get a better living arrangement. :D



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15 Oct 2011, 10:50 pm

There's no reasoning with them. They're clever, so that the law can't touch them. They're well connected and respected in the community. One time, by dad told me upfront he was involved in the drug trade back in the seventies. Never got caught.


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16 Oct 2011, 4:01 am

Are there jobs available in your area that you could handle? Could you support yourself on 1 or 2 part-time jobs? Would any friends' families let you move in until graduation? If 'yes ', go STRAIGHT to a school counsellor, tell everything, and start the proceedings to become an 'emancipated minor'. Counsellors have more legal connections than you may be aware of, and they can guide you through what you need to do to GET OUT OF THERE! Sylkat



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17 Oct 2011, 9:50 pm

You should get out of that situation as soon as possible.


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