How can ANYONE think like this?

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I'm sorry, i think i must be miss understanding what people are saying... They say dumb things about the dead or dying because they care about them, and are upset? as a defense mechinism, i will not show pain so i will block it out by being a complete jerk type of thing? If they care and are upset that makes the actions even harder to understand, heartless ideots who weren't thinking about the impact thier actions made made a little sense but now... can someone explain using diffrent words? i think i got something wrong.

No, those are two different things. They're talking s**t about the dead and dying because it helps to take their mind off facing the reality that we're all mortal, and will all eventually die, and it could be in some really slow, horrible, painful or tragic way that could theoretically happen at any time. Being concerned about someone's health, safety and well-being generally overrides the 'speak ill of the dead' reflex, though, in most emotionally and socially mature people, but it's usually still there.

Never forget: On a scale of one to ten, the average human being has a Humanity score of about 3.
--WhiteWolf Games, "Vampire: The Masquerade Handbook"

Are these the selfsame sort of people that seek out real life death compilation tapes like Traces of Death for instance?

As callous and insensitive as that kind of reaction may be, I personally don't think any less of those people than I do of people who undeservedly revere the deceased and refuse to acknowledge any possible faults of those who died.
I dislike both types equally.

I really like this quote. I remember in my AP(college-level) Psychology class, they were talking on degrees of maturity/empathy/morality. Apparently, only about 25 percent of people ever reach the highest stage of it. Where as they don't do things because it is simply wrong since it is harmful to themselves, and especially to others. Sadly, what tends to keep the majority of humanity from doing things like stealing, killing, etc. etc. is the fact that there are negative effects(affects?) to do it like going to jail, being socially outcast, etc.

Humanity doesn't exist. We made it up.

That's not due to Hollywood, and similar, but due to their puny minds. If you start thinking it is funny with some real, innocent person's death, due to violent movies, then something is wrong with your brain and not the movies you're watching. Personally, I'm into some types of guro (a type of extremely violent manga), myself, and I would not find such things funny. It's sick how people act. Just another example of how horrid this world is... or the human species, anyway.

People act in other sick ways in regards to other, far more horrid things, too, like rape. Apparently, that is very funny to many people. Ass rape jokes are all too popular, as many here surely are aware of, and the victim likely deserved it, somehow, and maybe even should be bullied and laughed at, afterwards. Yep, humanity sure is sick. :/

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Well, I've been on the other end of this, sort of... When I was in highschool a bunch of kids I'd never heard of before, along with an old friend of my brother, were in a car wreck. There were 3 or 4 of them in the car, and 2 or 3 died. I don't remember. I'm pretty sure there was a 4th person, but i can't remember his name or anything about him. Anyway... The two who died were athletes, apparently, so everyone made a huge deal about it. If I'd died, nobody would have given a rat's ass. In fact... I don't recall which one came first, but an old friend from elementary school got shot like 14 times by the cops when he was in highschool, and I'm not even sure they mentioned his name on the morning announcements or anything. Either way, they clearly didn't care because he wasn't in sports. I don't condone what he did at all(he robbed a wendy's with a BB gun. Apparently he was addicted to heroin. He went to rehab, but then his parents, due to religious reasons, took him out of it. They didn't believe in it or something. Well, he was out, and he needed his heroin fix. I guess that was the only way he could think of to get it), but I don't see him as a terrible person. Regardless, terrible or not, he meant something to some people, but nobody really seemed to care except for a bunch of his other friends. When the two jocks died, EVERYBODY in the school was crying and whatnot all day. They had grief counselors and all kinds of similar things to help people deal with their deaths.

Anyway, I remember the day the two jocks died. I didn't even know who the hell they were. I'd never heard of them until they were already dead, and I didn't even have a clue anything happened to anyone the night before. I walked into the school and saw people crying and stuff. Then I heard about it all day, and I had a bunch of people get pissed at me for not being sad or crying my eyes out. At lunch time, some dickhead from another table started bitching at me and the people I was sitting with because we were laughing, and I guess laughing is illegal when jocks die or something... Whatever. I also remember someone drawing some sort of diagram as a joke, analyzing how the wreck occurred. I don't think death is funny or that survivors deserve to be mocked or whatever, but that drawing made me laugh. Oh yeah, also, apparently the kids in the car(including the two who died) were either drinking or doing some sort of drugs, and if I remember correctly, they ran into some old lady by running a stop sign or something like that, so it's not like they were just these innocent kids who got stuck in a sh***y unfortunate situation. They were out doing illegal things, being stupid reckless youth. I'm not gonna rub salt in anyone's wounds and suggest that it still didn't suck they were dead, but excuse me for not being sad about someone I didn't even know and never even knew existed. That's just ridiculous. If you expect me to feel sorrow for their death, then I expect you to feel sorrow for EVERY death, but that's ridiculous and stupid.

Not one person has had any suggestions on how to make vehicles and roads safer. Not ever. Every time, it's always something like this:

"Aww, somebody died. Let's all cry about it."

How about we reduce speed limits, make drunk driving a felony, and outlaw cars without up to date safety features, such as side curtain airbags, for starters.

Sad that people can be so mean about someone who died. My dad is on the spectrum & he always used to say (before he got old) that "no one gets out of this world alive." That's a pretty bleak way to look at someone either dying or who just died.

I don't think this situation is only something that's come about because of the internet. People have been cruel for centuries. You can't expect the majority to change if that's how they grew up. The population now is greater than ever, it's going to happen. I do think the internet almost makes the bad behavior acceptible since it can be so widely spread. Ever watch AFV or Jackass? The whole premiss of the show is making fun of people, even if they get hurt. In any case, no matter how "dumb" a death might be (or how much someone might have deserved "what they got"), that person had loved ones &/or friends who are still alive. Those people do have feelings too. It's not cool for anyone to put down someone who died ever. I think anyone who does that deserves a reprimand about showing respect.

I remember when I was in 7th grade. I was bullied by a group of girls. We were all in phys ed together & naturally I was the awkward dork no one liked. This group of girls often went out of their way to torment me. One of my main bullies died right out side the school one day. I don't know what exactly happened, but the whole scene when I got to school & seeing her being cared for by paramedics was surreal. It was happening right in front of the school. I never made fun of her. Never liked her much for the way she & her friends treated me. However, her surviving friends somehow felt I was responsible for her death & always gave me weird looks after she died. I don't know how I was responsible as I happened onto the scene after she was down on the ground. Even though her friends kind of blamed me, they never made fun of me again. I guess they were afraid the same fate might happen to them. Then again, I think that was about the time that the movie Carrie came out. So maybe they thought I was a real witch. IDK.

The girl who died was well liked by just about everyone other than me. I don't recall anyone ever saying anything bad about her. People at school were pretty shook up, but I think everyone was fairly respectable. I doubt if it had been me I'd have gotten the same reaction. I'm sure the entire student body as well as the staff would have all had a major celebration since I was hated by most.

Still, people tend to make fun of things they fear or feel justified if the situation seems deserved. Wishing old people dead or cheering for people to die is completely insensitive. I also don't think it's funny when someone gets hurt. Even if they did something to cause themselves bodily harm.

Your situation is one of the many exceptions, if you ask me. Personally, I probably shouldn't have made my previous post, in this thread, as it was too unspecific. Things usually aren't black and white, after all. I agree with your last sentence there, by the way... it was utterly ridiculous that they got annoyed at you for not being sad.

Don't pin this on just the neurotypical class.

I had a friend recently die from suicide, don't feel like adding details, and a non-neurotypical friend told me a person like that deserved to die.

I have never seen this in real life but I remember when 9/11 happened, I joked about the towers being gone and the game Rampage and I couldn't help but find humor in people jumping out of the buildings. It made me think of the game Rampage, especially when I saw them collapse. So I guess I'd be one of those people. Then it felt weird not having those towers anymore so I said we were back in time because they didn't exist before the construction started. I was not even thinking of the deaths. In fact I was mad they were gone and disgusted that some countries would celebrate the attacks in our country because didn't they realize innocent people lost their lives? I never saw it as a good thing that those towers got hit and my teacher was stuck in Mexico and I didn't go to class for days because 9/11 was all teachers could ever do by making all their students watch it on the news when the reporters talked none stop about it and I was done with it the day it happened because they were all repeating themselves. Yeah I got called cold hearted for not understanding what was going on and not being able to grasp the word hijacking until I asked what it was. I think that person forgot I was 16 when the whole thing happened and I think it was reasonable I was ignorant just like the other kids were in my school about the whole thing so I was telling from my 16 year old point of view or else it be a lie if I changed my story about my experience. In fact I am not alone on here who was dense about it and acted "cold hearted" and I noticed lot of those members here were also in their teens when it happened so go figure.

Sure of all those people that died that day, some of them may have been bullies, jerks, stupid people, ignorant people, etc. but I still wouldn't think "I am so glad all those people died, now there are less stupid people in the world" or "I am so glad all those people died, now there are less judgmental people in the world" bla bla bla. because that just be assuming and making generalizations and I don't know all those people.

I was a commissioner in Pittsburg, California. At one meeting discussing a ban on driving while using a cell phone, one citizen said:

"Why should my life be inconvenienced to save the life of someone I don't even know?"