Dramma kings/queens
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Isn't that the OPPOSITE of love???
Yes, it is.
GET HIM OUT OF THERE. There is NO reason for him to still be there. He is contributing NOTHING of value and making your life WORSE.
Getting all of those other people in there to help "convince" him to leave is the best thing you could do right now. If he gets violent, call the cops. No joke.
You need to think about your own well-being, because he isn't and never will.
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The existence of the leader who is wise
is barely known to those he leads.
He acts without unnecessary speech,
so that the people say,
'It happened of its own accord.' -Tao Te Ching, Verse 17
Sounds like this person is very depressed, its sad, but I think everyone goes though a phase in their life where life isn't what it should be for them. If their someone close and they can start to understand why they are so unhappy then maybe there is still hope for them? Is this person your boyfriend, may I ask?
Drama Kings/Queens? Why not just call them Attention-Hos or Emo-Vamps? Since gaining attention seems to be their implied goal, and since they seem to be trying to gain that attention in ways that I find unpleasant, I apply operant conditioning to their behavior as I would to the unpleasant behavior of an unruly child -- I ignore them until they behave in ways that are more to my liking.
If they are co-workers, then I keep my attention focused on business until their emo-state becomes overwhelming. Then I call a "Time Out" - I ask them to email their report and I take a coffee break.
Sooner or later, they direct their drama to other people who will feed their need for attention.
By applying these principles, even The Haven has become less dramatic in less than half a year.
Ugh, I just ignore them. Only thing great about them is reading the entertainment they do online. Gives me something to do since I love internet drama. I just don't want to get involved in it is all and I am fine. But then after a while they get so damn annoying because people fail to ignore them.
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Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.
Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
and do you notice they are a brick wall only if someone else wants to communicate in any way, but after ignoring and minimizing the needs so of others for hours, they are somehow a "poor me" victom yet again, when someone gives up trying to get their attention after a few hours??
Like somehow you are neglecting THEM, when you move on after hours of being ignored...
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I notice when they don't listen to me and I have to keep repeating myself and they still keep thinking what they are thinking and keep saying the same thing again and again not changing their mind. Being a brick wall also means no matter how you explain something to them, they still don't get what you are saying and they twist your words. It's like you can't get though to them and that is the case, you can't get through to them so you are talking to a brick wall.
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Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.
Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
I notice when they don't listen to me and I have to keep repeating myself and they still keep thinking what they are thinking and keep saying the same thing again and again not changing their mind. Being a brick wall also means no matter how you explain something to them, they still don't get what you are saying and they twist your words. It's like you can't get though to them and that is the case, you can't get through to them so you are talking to a brick wall.
biggest part of the problem, they interrupt every sentence or cut you off for something like a game or other person that serves them. So in thier head they have made you into a fictional character too, because they can never really know you if they never pay attention...
Also, the insecurity is so unnattractive, they are the type of person who makes themselves look pathetic by having "poor me" pitty party emotional affairs all over the place, making them look less and less attractive....
Not realizing that a REAL man/woman is attractive for their intergrity more than anything.... looks only count for the first 10 minutes... after that it is strength of character that I find attractive...
People who loosely flirt all over the place look so cheap because they get 2% from a bunch of other desperate fakes and are never filled up, while a real man will get 110% from a real woman, but they will never get that, the thing they most desperatly need, they spend it on cheap aquintences, and even past exes....
No self esteeem, yet wont respect the people who actually COULD help their self esteem....... like banging your head against a wall... lol
Some people have also accused me of twisting their words. Another phrase for that is "taking it out of context." Sometimes I will get told I am taking something out of context but I wonder if people can just say you are twisting their words or taking it out of context when you really aren't? They usually make no sense then when they tell me that because then what did they mean then?
One time someone told me on another forum I have no reason to go fast on a none fast road. I told him I was not speeding and what made him think I was. He told me he did not say I was speeding, he said I have no reason to go fast on a none fast road. He also told me I was taking him out of context. I asked him what does he mean then by going fast? 30 miles? 40 miles? 25 miles?
Besides, doesn't going fast when driving mean you are speeding because you are going higher than the speed limit on the road? I even asked another aspie how would he have interpreted that sentence and he said "That I am speeding."
I still have no idea what that person meant then when he told me that or he was just playing head games with me. He told me I had no reason to go fast on a none fast road but yet he didn't mean I was going fast? That is just one example there of me being accused of taking something out of context.
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Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.
Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
Yeah, thats pretty messed up.... warped head games, expect you to be some mind reader...
I just told this guy that I admitted I wasn't as carefree as I used to be because I was traumatized by this person who threated to kill me.....
You know what he said??
Trauma is for the weak, and you need to get over it...... I was shocked..... then when I defended myself by saying trauma needs to be healed and you dont just "get over" something like that, he flipped out like I had no right to be hurt by such an insensitive cruel comment...
I am thinking it is narscissism???
How can someone be so blind to saying something that cruel??? It baffles me! lol
No, unfortunately, this person destroys the person who loves him the most, so that the one person who dindt give up on them just got battered too much to help.
It gets to a point where no matter if you don't take their abuse personally, they will damage you to a point where you cant help THEM at least...
I think it is self hate..... people who don't love themselves don't know how to love someone else. No matter what extent the other person will sacrifice and go through to show them, emotionally, financially, socially and otherwise.
their goal is to bring others down, so you cant raise them up. they have to hit rock bottom for that, but most of them never will, they are the rebounders who use false flattery and phoniness to latch onto the next victim as soon as possible, so they stay at a level where they can keep blaming others and never truly face themselves or see how their actions could hurt others so deeply.
No one maters but them anyways, so they could never have empathy or care about the feelings of another.
http://1solutionfocusedcoaching.com/201 ... -partners/
http://www.squidoo.com/narcissistic-relationships
WOW....
Sadly, this is all making sense now.....
http://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/traum ... hing-else/
Hopefully there is hope for this person on their own, it is very sad, and I DO feel very sorry for them, but I cannot be the person to help them.
I have a child and this person was very dangerous.
They were allways having irrational tantrums out of the blue, and punching holes in walls and throwing things and sometimes chasing me around the house.
The verbal abuse was despicable..... he would use the worst words you could use and never say a positive thing about anyone or anything.
They blamed all of their scary behavior on everyone under the sun including me, so they can't help themselves if they don't take responsibility for their own actions.
You cant go into a battle as a team, or go win a war, when you are turning the gun on your own troops all of the time, you kil them all off so they can't help you.
Besides all of the horrid stuff, there was NO good stuff anyways, no romance, no taking me out to dinner or dancing, never got flowers once, he hated all of my friends and family... it would have deteriorated eventually anyways even without the violence.
Whenever they finally had money thye would shower themself in gift instead of helping with bils or paying me back for the fact they lived rent free sonce the day we met, so I sacrificed all of my wants and needs holding up their slack etc....
I couldn't even have the joy of giving with this person, I would make them dinners and lunches, snacks, and every time, there wa a complaint or criticism, no reciprocation of any kind.....
All the love in the world from my side couldnt do a thing..... I think they hated my love and just liked someone to play mindgmaes with.
I could not longer be in the way of someone who is such a hardcore bully...