How high would you have to hang a noose to die?

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Maybe, but I can't find anywhere in my house that would work. Everything else is neck level or not attached to something else.

Oh dear, please don't do it. As long as you're alive there's always hope that things will get better.

Right, assuming the meds don't do permanent damage to my heart.

If you're looking to feel like your head is going to explode, with your eyes watering and partially bulging out from your head as you flop around frantically, clawing at your neck. Nearly throwing up, gagging constantly, if not actually throwing up, all while you wait for your life to escape you, with your vision slowly fading away and the worst headache of your life... Then hanging is a choice.

It's a horrendous way to die. And you'll probably go into auto-pilot mode and save yourself if you can. Is it Albuterol that you take for your asthma?

Well do the meds you take make you feel any better at all? I mean since you are already suicidal I suppose I don't see why it bothers you they could do physical damage, that kind of makes it slow sucide if you think about it. But it leaves you alive so maybe you will find something worth living for....I don't know I don't really have any good advice about feeling like that.

I certainly know what being suicidal feels like though, and it does suck.

It's not the type of knot, it's where you place it; but it generally has to be a hangman's knot or a similarly large knot to work correctly. Placing the knot at the back of the neck is to strangle and torture; placing it at the side is to break the neck and kill quickly and humanely.

But hanging techniques aside, suicide's a coward's way out, in my opinion. Start by talking with your doctor about the asthma medication you're taking, and if there are any alternative medications that have less severe side-effects. Also, if someone's spraying perfume or chemicals around you, and you feel an asthma attack coming on, you have every right to tell them to stop because it affects your health; also, if you need to, get out of the area quickly, and use your inhaler if necessary. Doing that will probably cut down on the number of times you have to use your inhaler, and will lessen the side-effects from using too often. Also, talk with your doctor about any medications you might be able to take to help with your heart condition. And, last but not least, if things don't get better after you've done all that, talk to a psychiatrist, and get help with depression and possibly chemical dependency.

No. It isn't. If anything? It takes an enormous amount of bravery to plunge yourself into the dark abyss; Not even knowing what, who, if anything is waiting when you die. What about people who are in constant physical pain? And medication doesn't work? I guess they should just suffer and be in pain to be "brave" then. What about people who kill themselves under the influence of drugs which increase suicidal thoughts? People don't choose to be suicidal, "But they choose to kill themselves". Sure. But if they have a valid reason I don't see why they don't have the right to kill themselves. Not saying I'm promoting suicide. But people should have the right to kill themselves, or even be assisted in suicide. Their lives could become better, potentially, had they stayed. But they'd be dead. Why would they care? They wouldn't even be aware.

To the OP. I'm sorry that you're going through a hard time - And I am also sorry to hear that your medication is not working and in the case of the asthma medicine making things worse. As I mentioned prior; Hanging yourself is a slow and tortuous death. And you'll be more likely to have brain damage or become paralyzed than actually perishing in the act. To the individual I quoted - It's typically not the best course of action to call a suicidal person a 'coward'. Even if that was not the intent, it can come across that way.

Yeah I think I'd have to agree...most people who say that though don't really experience the state of being suicidal so they cannot expect to understand it. I don't like the idea of people killing themselves but I can certainly understand the feeling and even I can't say I have much reason other than currently the meds I have and other drugs I use kind of minimize the pain but aside from that it seems pretty pointless.

That can also be attributed to sheer stupidity.

People who consciously choose to commit suicide (the ones that don't do so while on hard psychoactive drugs, or who are already at the guaranteed end of their lifespan) are choosing to opt out of trying to improve their situation. Even if you think you've done everything you can, you probably haven't; there is always the factor of time. Time itself doesn't heal, but it can provide future opportunities to lessen the distress. Suicide is also a giant 'f**k you' to your family and friends; spitting in the face of those who care about you and want to both see and help you succeed in life.

I'm probably going to have to say this every time the subject of suicide comes up: You have your opinion, and I have mine. I just happen to feel that suicide isn't a viable alternative to suffering. Suffering builds character; the long, hard road out of hell only makes you stronger.

I should point out that I do not agree with suicide. But I acknowledge people have the /right/ to self-terminate if they /choose/ to. It's not up for me to decide whether or not it's 'stupid', these people can't cope. Again; It's not as if they choose to be suicidal or depressed. Suffering doesn't build character; That's ridiculous. I guess the people dying of hunger are just character building; How about people that are tortured? If anything this line, right here, is a giant, "f**k you. Deal with it." to every single person suffering from depression on this board.

This is going to be my last reply. Since I don't want to derail this thread.

As Clint Eastwood said, dying is easy, it's living that is hard.

Well go ahead and keep your ignorance its not anything people who've felt suicidal or who've attempted haven't already heard. But usually putting people down for feeling that way does not help the situation. I mean if you feel like a burden and everyone would be better off without you how is it like spitting in anyones face........its more like feeling like there is no other alternative, trapped if you will.

Also too much suffering does not really make people stronger, it can cause a lot of worsening of mental illness and suicidal feelings. You don't have to comment on suicide threads if you know your just going to go off about how wrong and immoral it is in a rather rude manner.

Now if only that were true.

How isn't it?

You don't want to know....but in basic terms finding a way to actually kill ones self is difficult, and it's not like it always works sometimes it just does more damage and you've still survived. So I don't think it's as simple as that quote claims, but if you find it true that is probably a good thing.

Indeed.... it is anything but easy to die. It may be easy if you are really old, and seem to know that you will die, soon, like a relative of mine did, and so many other terminally ill or old people, but when you are physically healthy, finding a way out of the mental pain is most definitely not easy. Almost always, there is a fear of something, or, at least, some sort of "but".... it usually requires immense courage to end one's life. It most certainly is anything but cowardly to do it, like Zokk claimed. Great way of showing support for someone suicidal, by the way - calling her stupid. Shows how completely clueless you are. Amusingly, you even inform her of how to properly tie a noose, in the post before you call her stupid... first you inform her of this, then you very likely make her feel even worse by calling her dense - well done...!

To the original poster.... I, too, am tired of life.... I don't really have any reason to keep going.... other than that I can't really know, in my case, if it will suddenly start getting better.... it probably won't, but... maybe it will. You seem very worried of your health, by the way.... are you certain that your concerns even are real? It could just be hypochondria. I know one or two things about that, myself. And the muscle spasms.... they could just be due to stress, you know. I know by personal experience that stress gives me just that. What else concerns you, by the way...? Or is it just your health? You can PM me, if you want... I have nothing better to do, anyway. Currently, all I do is to either sleep or watch anime, pretty much.