Threatening to murder my social worker

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06 Jan 2013, 4:42 pm

I know what kind of trap this is. The social worker has the privilege of re-labeling anything that you say as a sign that you are insane and not ready to leave her tender care. If she uses that privilege she of course makes the idea that she is a social worker a sick joke.

While I can't advocate threatening her or physically harming her, part of this game is to make it cost you a lot to refrain from screaming in her face or being threatening. The game is that she wants you to do it, and you are in a trap where it's hard to see any alternatives.

I also can't advocate pretending that she has been fondling you or making indecent suggestions. It's no wonder that people who are in trouble develop defensive devices such as that.



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07 Jan 2013, 11:22 am

I work in social services and can tell you that we are people, too. We have our own health problems, our own past traumas and psychological pain, our own day-to-day struggles with keeping roofs over our heads and paying our bills because we've chosen a low-paying profession, etc.

I've been yelled at, sworn at and threatened by people I've tried to help before and even though I try to not to get upset about it, it's still horrible. And, people wonder why social services has such a high burnout rate!

If you feel you're being treated poorly, go to her supervisor and file a formal compaint. You don't have a right to try to frighten and intimidate this woman. It's likely that it's the system and your circumstances you are really angry at and becoming abusive towards her won't solve anything.



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07 Jan 2013, 12:14 pm

I here jail is beautiful this time of year.



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08 Jan 2013, 12:24 am

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This is why I'm rotting - all she ever does is sneer in our meetings and has so far successfully ignored my pleas to get out of here for an entire year. I am going insane, and I told her that, but I guess I need to translate that into something she'd understand personally.


Threatening to murder people usually does not produce the desired outcome for the individual doing the threatening. It will very likely result in you being incarcerated and branded as a potentially dangerous person. I suggest, rather than threatening to murder her, you e-mail her superior and explain the issues you are facing and ask to be assigned a different social worker.



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08 Jan 2013, 8:31 am

Remnant wrote:
I know what kind of trap this is. The social worker has the privilege of re-labeling anything that you say as a sign that you are insane and not ready to leave her tender care. If she uses that privilege she of course makes the idea that she is a social worker a sick joke.

While I can't advocate threatening her or physically harming her, part of this game is to make it cost you a lot to refrain from screaming in her face or being threatening. The game is that she wants you to do it, and you are in a trap where it's hard to see any alternatives.

I also can't advocate pretending that she has been fondling you or making indecent suggestions. It's no wonder that people who are in trouble develop defensive devices such as that.


Right here. You threaten to kill her, she's got her claws even deeper in you.

There are decent social workers, and then there are psychotic poopyheads who went into the field to have control over other people.

You threaten to kill her, you just gave her grounds for even more control.

File a formal complaint. In a nice, reasonable tone. With a list of specific problems and examples, preferable dated, documented with photo evidence if possible.

Even better, find a neurotypical to do it with you. Sometimes that's what it takes. :roll: :wall:


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08 Jan 2013, 11:05 pm

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Don't become a loser, Mootoo.

Threatening murder will put you on their "S**t List", and you'll likely be under stricter and less friendly observation from then on (to say the least).


I agree. Don't threaten to murder her.



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08 Jan 2013, 11:34 pm

Is she holding a gun to your head and forcing you to see her. If not then find someone else.



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08 Jan 2013, 11:55 pm

I wouldn't threaten to murder my social worker. I just pity the poor bastard who ends up with her. Still doesn't prevent me from trying to get in her pants, though - as I try and do with nearly every woman. I'm like that Billy Connolly character in Quartet, only without his good looks, good humour and general love of life. Oh, and I can't speak French.



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09 Jan 2013, 2:56 pm

Mootoo, hatred, however deserved, is a negative tool that can hurt the wielder more than the intended victim. Be a strong character - show that you are not intimidated by her and do not give her the satisfaction of toying with you or destroying your sanity. Occasionally those in a perceived position of power, however insignificant, become control freaks and make it hard for people like yourself.

Think the situation through calmly and rationally, however difficult, and find a solution. Channel your anger and frustration into poetry, writing it all down, drawing pictures, whatever you feel comfortable with.



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12 Jan 2013, 7:13 am

That's a REALLY bad idea. Really bad.



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13 Jan 2013, 1:50 pm

micheal34340, if it's at all logical I've now been trying to see whether it's possible to get to a mental hospital. After all, if one has run out of all mental resources what can one do?

First doctor was extremely non-understanding, though, and now the only strategy I can see is to continually make emergency appointments until someone can possibly understand. At this point, since they're generally useless anyway, I don't care even if they de-register me from the clinic due to these continual appointments.



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13 Jan 2013, 2:35 pm

They are supposed to be there to help you the best they can, and to listen and understand. I don't know that much about the UK system, but here in S Africa I find our mental health services quite good and you have the choice of just getting medication, seeing a sister for an injection or checkup, and seeing the psychiatrists for assistance. (usually na appointment has to be made upfront for the latter but if they can see someone is desperate they will prioritise).

I don't know all your circumstances but I trust things will start getting better for you. You seem to be quite coherent and clear in writing your latest post. Do you by any chance have any close friends or family members that can give you some support, or not even one?

You have friends here on WP at any rate.

I hope the professionals at your clinic can find suitable medication for you - have they looked at all the options? Insist that they find the best for you - they can't deregister you for frequent visits; it's their job to supply mental health services!



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13 Jan 2013, 3:04 pm

envirozentinel, strange thing when I'm desperate is that my writing seems to become more coherent, and it seems this is what confuses most 'professionals' too, since in their eyes I can't possibly be hanging by a thread if I can use proper grammar and potentially have a larger vocabulary than they do (but what can I do if language has been my priority from a young age whereas many people seem to be even drunk in their sober state, with punctuation all over etc.)

Fortunately I got to meet someone (through this site) who is now providing me company, but the rest of my life is still quite an arid place... (and I'm still trying to get out of this flat more than a year after I first expressed a desire to do so - it's like I was imprisoned here, without parole!)

Also, the problem with medication is that most of them work long-term... but I have an acute problem, and time isn't something I have at all (all that I currently use is valium, which works in the short term but it's not really powerful unless I take some 25mg, but even then it's just for a night, so it'd be more recreational... so, I just have no idea whether anything could help in these circumstances).



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13 Jan 2013, 3:29 pm

Hey Mootoo, I'm glad you at least have someone nearby that can visit/support you, I was worried about you when you started this thread because harming that social worker, however nasty she may be, would have dire consequences and is not a solution! I think that experssing yourself in writing would be an excellent thing because its your speciality and may even lead to better things for you... or just help you see things in perspective. Using this talent will make you feel better about yourself.

What's the main problem with the flat? No heating / bad neighbours / dangerous area etc? I hope you will have the opportunity to move in due course.

I don't want to see anything bad happen to you. Keep insisting that they can find the best med - maybe you should google / search the best options online - you may find better suggestions that the "professionals" can come up with!



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15 Jan 2013, 1:19 am

I said that I'd threaten to harm her, not actually harm her. The thing is that she completely ignored my emails when I said I'd kill myself if she doesn't get me out of this flat, but obviously, as a social worker, she's much more worried about herself than anyone else, of course.

And... well, people might think I'm absurd (everyone has done so, so far, so it's merely the norm) but I feel that living on a main/really busy road is equivalent to torture, and I've been here 2.5 years - at the beginning it was about okay (even though I tried to cope by eating fast food nearly every single day, although that was also due to loneliness), but over time it's just organically grown into a living nightmare. The place I don't want to go back to (a really busy street), which is where I absolutely must go to, unless I plan on going homeless. I wrote extensively on why noise is bothersome, and how I think the state of affairs is unjust.



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15 Jan 2013, 8:48 am

You are not absurd. It is really horrible to live on a very busy road, I understand perfectly. How about if you supply the email of your unsympathetic social worker, and then all of us here on WP inundate her with emails urging her to act? Might that work?

In the meantime, does "white noise" help? One can try background music, headphones etc to block out the noise, but obviously one can't do that 24/7.