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28 Mar 2013, 11:05 am

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If you hate it so much, move?
It's quite inexpensive to live in India.


I would, and we all would, if it were that simple.


You're the only one who makes it complicated.


OK, it has taken me 4 long years to find employment, after doing plenty of work experiences, voluntary work, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and the rest and now I've finally got a part time job I can barely survive on, as if it is that simple to just move abroad next week and have a home and a job waiting for me, somebody as thick and unconfident as me. Unlike Britain, all the other countries don't let people in unless they have got a lot of money behind them, have an ambition, and/or have a specific job already in that country. Ordinary people like myself just cannot move out of this s**thole.

Every single person that I know really hates living here, they hate the state the government has put us in and they are beginning to hate the climate too, so if it's that simple to just pack your suitcases, board a plane and go to wherever you want in the world where there's a house and a job waiting for you, then we would all be doing that.

God I do hate people who seem to think leaving your country is as simple as adding 2 and 2.


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28 Mar 2013, 11:28 am

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God I do hate people who seem to think leaving your country is as simple as adding 2 and 2.


Hate is a rather strong word, you certainly do not like being criticized..
I do think it's that easy, but if you'd like to live a life of abundant material wealth and consumer goods.... it's not so easy.



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28 Mar 2013, 12:32 pm

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Not only the UK has unseasonable snow we've got to contend with, we've got many many more weeks of freezing temperatures because this f***ing icy wind from f***ing Russia and Norway, and now they are thinking of cutting off all our gas and power supplies, or giving us less which still isn't good enough. Well that's just f***ing great isn't it. More sh** to f***ing contend with, all because those f***ing miserable ice-cold places have to give us their miserable sh***y weather. When will the UK get a descent summer? Or a proper spring? All our animals are dying, there's no beautiful flowers or insects or leaves on trees appearing here, God I HATE THIS f***ing COUNTRY!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!

I can't live without power or gas, we use power at work, and I live on my computer at home, I can't sit there every night in the dark and cold looking at my c**t of a brother I'll f***ing commit suicide!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! I HATE BRITAIN IT'S TURNING INTO A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY, FIRST IT'S OVERTAKEN BY sh***y GOVERNMENT THAT PICK ON THE LOW INCOME BRITISH, NOW IT'S OVERTAKEN BY EAST WEATHER f***ing CAN LIFE GET ANY WORSE!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


Come to florida. marry me. The sun will shine :wink: :wink:


(hope this gave you a smile at least!)





... I love the cold. 8)



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28 Mar 2013, 10:17 pm

uwmonkdm wrote:
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God I do hate people who seem to think leaving your country is as simple as adding 2 and 2.


Hate is a rather strong word, you certainly do not like being criticized..
I do think it's that easy, but if you'd like to live a life of abundant material wealth and consumer goods.... it's not so easy.


If you can't afford a PLANE TICKET and SOMEWHERE TO LIVE, no it is not that easy.


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29 Mar 2013, 11:21 am

Hi Joe90, South Africa has a lovely climate and even our winters are mild, especially at the coast, and our infrastructure is not bad except that everyone is annoyed at our national electricity supplier who is supplying below cost electricity to an Aussie company called Billiton (aluminium smelters) and at a fraction of the price everyone else pays, due to a contact signed way back in 1992. So everywhere in the world has its own gripes and grumbles...

Pity you are unable to move, due to practical considerations, but at least your spring is slowly but surely on the way... hang in there pal! Summer's coming. :sunny:



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29 Mar 2013, 12:49 pm

uwmonkdm wrote:
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God I do hate people who seem to think leaving your country is as simple as adding 2 and 2.


Hate is a rather strong word, you certainly do not like being criticized..
I do think it's that easy, but if you'd like to live a life of abundant material wealth and consumer goods.... it's not so easy.


I wasn't criticising anybody, I just got annoyed when a stranger online can just say something as blunt as that, without knowing who I am or what my life circumstances are. I would love to move out of this country but it's not that easy. Doesn't mean I still can't feel anxious about things and want to express it, online or offline.


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29 Mar 2013, 1:28 pm

i agree - its not as easy to just up and move out of britain to other country, otherwise everyone would be doing it.



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29 Mar 2013, 6:03 pm

Interesting story from http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/elderhealth/9959856/Its-the-cold-not-global-warming-that-we-should-be-worried-about.html

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The reaction to the 2003 heatwave was extraordinary. It was blamed for 2,000 deaths, and taken as a warning that Britain was horribly unprepared for the coming era of snowless winters and barbecue summers. The government’s chief scientific officer, Sir David King, later declared that climate change was “more serious even than the threat of terrorism” in terms of the number of lives that could be lost. Such language is never used about the cold, which kills at least 10 times as many people every winter. Before long, every political party had signed up to the green agenda.

Since Sir David’s exhortations, some 250,000 Brits have died from the cold, and 10,000 from the heat. It is horribly clear that we have been focusing on the wrong enemy. Instead of making sure energy was affordable, ministers have been trying to make it more expensive, with carbon price floors and emissions trading schemes. Fuel prices have doubled over seven years, forcing millions to choose between heat and food – and government has found itself a major part of the problem.

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The average annual fuel bill is expected to have risen by £76 by 2020, it says. But take out Davey’s hidden taxes (carbon price floor, emissions trading scheme, etc) and we’d be paying an average £123 less.

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for Britain, global warming is likely to save far more lives then it threatens. Delve deep enough into the Government’s forecasts, and they speculate that global warming will lead to 6,000 fewer deaths a year, on average, by the end of the decade. This is the supposed threat facing us: children would be less likely to have snow to play in at Christmas, but more likely to have grandparents to visit over Easter. Not a bad trade-off. The greatest uncertainty is whether global warming, which has stalled since 1998, will arrive quickly enough to make a difference.


I love it that people are starting to recognize the simple truth that it is Global Cooling, not Global Warming, that would be the disaster. Why has it taken so long?



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29 Mar 2013, 6:51 pm

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i agree - its not as easy to just up and move out of britain to other country, otherwise everyone would be doing it.


Yeah, it used to be easier, all you had to do was steal a loaf of bread to get a free ticket to Australia; later you had to pay 10 pounds.

Now I think you have more people trying to get in than out, but then we have the same problem here.

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02 Apr 2013, 4:21 am

Officially the coldest March & Easter on record in the UK

Was -12C in Edinburgh a couple of nights ago

-2.5C when I left for work this morning, it's April for ****'s sake!! !

........cold weather gone by the middle of next week. 15C forecast!

PAAAAAAARTY!! !



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02 Apr 2013, 6:37 am

I love cold weather and hate the heat. I lived up near the Siberian border for almost two years and loved the winters there. Wanna trade?



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02 Apr 2013, 7:05 am

Why is your gas and power being turned off? Can the government just do that over there, if you have paid your bills? Here, the only time it's cut off is if you are over two months behind paying your bills. That's ridiculous! What do they expect people to do for heat or power? Those are necessities nowdays, not luxuries like they were in the early 20th century.

As for other places to live, I'll throw my town into the ring. The cost of living here is very low. You can rent a trailer for about $250 a month and you can rent a 2 br house for about $300/$350 a month. Utilities vary according to how much you use. My house is 4br and our power is about $250/month, our gas is about $150 in winter and maybe $40 in summer, our water is about $150 as well. There are 7 people living here so if there are fewer people the bills would be lower. Finding work would be the major drawback, there isn't anything in town really. You would need a car and to go to Tuscaloosa or Birmingham to find anything. There is a little hotel to stay in, but it's $40 a night and it's only used with Alabama plays at home because we are near T-town. The climate would be great for you though, Joe. Hardly ever any snow or ice, maybe once a year and when that happens nobody goes anywhere. Everything shuts down, the schools close, roads close, everybody stocks up on milk and bread as soon as it's forecast and we all huddle in our houses like we are expecting a blizzard, when what we actually get is about a half in to an inch of snow. Which is a lot. It's tornadoes here that you have to worry about, we are getting into tornado season now.

Oddly enough, I really love snow! I wish we had snow here, but then again so do most Southerners and it's probably because we never have it so we have never had to deal with it which is why we don't hate it like those who do have snow. You would have to deal with high humidity and temps in the 90's for a good bit of the summer though. That makes your power bill go way high because if you don't stay inside with the cold air on you can end up with a heat stroke. And that's for people who are used to it, like we are. People who aren't used to it would have a time trying to deal with the heat I'd imagine.


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02 Apr 2013, 10:02 am

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You would have to deal with high humidity and temps in the 90's for a good bit of the summer though. That makes your power bill go way high because if you don't stay inside with the cold air on you can end up with a heat stroke. And that's for people who are used to it, like we are. People who aren't used to it would have a time trying to deal with the heat I'd imagine.


I spent the much of July and August after I graduated from high school digging grainery foundations by myself with a shovel and felt quite comfortable doing it. Then I moved down to central Texas. The heat and humidity there was quite a shock. For my first couple of months until it cooled off, I had to change shirts three times a day because I couldn't stop sweating in all that humidity. I was completely miserable.

The next summer, after I acclimated to the heat and humidity, I was quite comfortable down there.



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You would have to deal with high humidity and temps in the 90's for a good bit of the summer though. That makes your power bill go way high because if you don't stay inside with the cold air on you can end up with a heat stroke. And that's for people who are used to it, like we are. People who aren't used to it would have a time trying to deal with the heat I'd imagine.


I spent the much of July and August after I graduated from high school digging grainery foundations by myself with a shovel and felt quite comfortable doing it. Then I moved down to central Texas. The heat and humidity there was quite a shock. For my first couple of months until it cooled off, I had to change shirts three times a day because I couldn't stop sweating in all that humidity. I was completely miserable.



I've been to Texas and know several people who have, and can tell you that Texas humidity isn't anywhere near what Alabama's is. It can be 105 in Texas and you can deal with it, although you are really hot, but when it's 102 in Alabama you can hardly move because not only is it hot, but the air is so heavy.


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02 Apr 2013, 3:50 pm

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You would have to deal with high humidity and temps in the 90's for a good bit of the summer though. That makes your power bill go way high because if you don't stay inside with the cold air on you can end up with a heat stroke. And that's for people who are used to it, like we are. People who aren't used to it would have a time trying to deal with the heat I'd imagine.


I spent the much of July and August after I graduated from high school digging grainery foundations by myself with a shovel and felt quite comfortable doing it. Then I moved down to central Texas. The heat and humidity there was quite a shock. For my first couple of months until it cooled off, I had to change shirts three times a day because I couldn't stop sweating in all that humidity. I was completely miserable.



I've been to Texas and know several people who have, and can tell you that Texas humidity isn't anywhere near what Alabama's is. It can be 105 in Texas and you can deal with it, although you are really hot, but when it's 102 in Alabama you can hardly move because not only is it hot, but the air is so heavy.


What parts of Texas? There are parts of Texas such as the Panhandle and in West Texas (the western part of Texas, not the city of West, Texas which is in Central Texas near Waco) where it is a very dry hot and is not too difficult to deal with. In other parts, 90% humidity and higher is the norm even on the hottest days.

I've been in other parts of the south, but never in the summer.



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02 Apr 2013, 3:55 pm

By the way, the humidity can make a big difference in the cold, too.

Years ago, I knew a woman originally from Massachusetts and then from Fairbanks, Alaska who was living in central Texas for a couple of years. One chilly winter day, I saw her walking along and looking really miserable by the cold. I asked her about that saying that since she was from Fairbanks, the temperatures in central Texas should be nothing in comparison. She replied that the coldest winters in her life were those she spent in central Texas.