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24 Apr 2013, 6:21 pm

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In other words dude: be an douche!


A bit simplistic. You can be a nice guy and be in a successful relationship but I don't think you can be a spineless nice guy and be in a successful relationship.

Certainly I have been called nasty things but mainly when I draw a line and insist upon being treated with respect. It is easy to be close to people and accept their terms, living with it, seems to damage those who try it.


I think your right!



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25 Apr 2013, 9:07 am

I've learned that "behaving badly" and "having bad social skills" aren't inherently the same thing. A rebellious person can behave badly but have good social skills.

It is a very difficult issue. I don't know the answer. I do think some of it is women who are single are very eager to disqualify guys, but I don't think that's all of it either. There's a lot of things that people may do that they don't know they do.



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25 Apr 2013, 11:31 am

Latest observation in the orchestra rehearsal yesterday:
The two people sitting right behind me were flirting a lot. Apparently, gradual approaching worked for them (which was, I think, primarily lead by her – he seems really shy). They both joined half a year ago. And though 70% of the members are female, I still manage to stay single after 3 years...

I think the underlying problem is my inability to get in touch with other people. Specifically in the orchestra, there are a lot of people that I see every week, but I've never actually talked to them.



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25 Apr 2013, 11:56 am

Well yeah, you gotta put in some work. :)



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25 Apr 2013, 1:26 pm

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I'm in a similar situation to yourself, but I try my best to be optimistic and not let it get me down. I've personally found online dating to be immensely helpful, just because it makes the whole process simpler. You find someone who peaks your interest, you message, and you ask them out...if they say no, you never see or hear from them again, and if they say yes then at best you meet someone you truly connect with, and at worst you end up wasting an hr or two and a couple bucks. Not to mention everyone on those sites has similar intentions, to find someone to date! In real life there's way too much subtlety and complexity for me, if you ask someone out who isn't interested you risk offending them or creating hostility, and that interest can be next to impossible to pick up on for someone with Aspergers. Then there's the awkwardness of asking someone who's already in a relationship, not a pleasant experience!

I'm a bit scared of dating sites. First, I don't really like the idea of talking to someone for a first time and already having the intention of dating in mind. I'd rather get to know someone and make up my mind afterwards.

Also, I'm not that hot. I've heard bad things about the number of request I'd have to send. Sure, it might be good for practicing, but also daunting.

I've never been on an actual dating site, but I've been to an online chat community where you could upload a profile and that had a "blind date" feature. The problem was that out of the 20 "blind dates" I had, none lasted longer than 5 minutes; she would usually quit after a few seconds (probably right after opening my profile). I'm not sure if I want to repeat that experience.



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25 Apr 2013, 1:28 pm

Vectorspace wrote:
Oh, and for visual inspection, and posted a picture:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5353658.html#5353658
Please be honest about it.

My honest reply is gonna be a hurtful one and I'm sorry for that, but you look nerdy, which is why women aren't going for you.

Trust me, I'm not better looking personally as I have my own army of turn-offs, but at least you got an honest answer from me and not a tossed away "please, feel good about yourself" lie most people give away.



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25 Apr 2013, 1:44 pm

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I'm a female, but have the same problem. Guys aren't interested in me. I'm pretty, nice, outgoing, optimistic --but still no guys. I have plenty of crushes, and try to flirt with the guys I like or find cute. Nobody is interested in me. I have a "great personality", but they only like me "as a friend." I think a few have crushes on me, but nobody asks me out.

Sometimes, some women ( no matter how nice), will just have to take a big gulp and make the first move. Many aspie men are simply incapable of making the first move. I am one such. Sorry.



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25 Apr 2013, 1:47 pm

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Oh, and for visual inspection, and posted a picture:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5353658.html#5353658
Please be honest about it.

I wish i looked like you :hmph:
I am positive you will find somebody right for you :thumleft:



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28 Apr 2013, 9:13 am

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Vectorspace wrote:
Oh, and for visual inspection, and posted a picture:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5353658.html#5353658
Please be honest about it.

My honest reply is gonna be a hurtful one and I'm sorry for that, but you look nerdy, which is why women aren't going for you.

It can't be hurtful, as I know I'm a nerd. :)
But I'd be curious what exactly about me looks especially nerdy. I'm not getting rid of the glasses because I need them, and I won't change my haircut because I'm so much used to it now.

My clothes probably look quite boring. That is, usually wear a blue or green T-shirt and plain blue jeans, plus a blue, gray or black sweater when it's cold (very plain, too). That's in fact something I could change, but it would feel like disguising as someone that I'm not.

Being a nerd used to be a real problem in high-school. Compared other math students, I'm not that different now. But trying to date another math student is hopeless; for every girl, there are at least two guys who are more attractive than me.



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01 May 2013, 8:56 pm

To be perfectly honest, as a girl I'm HORRIBLY offended by the 'girls only like jerks' stereotype. I was raised from a young age to automatically sneer or swear at any douche that came within a five mile radius of me AND I get pissed off at other girls who go after jerks and often warn them to stay away (sometimes to no avail :x). My female friends act very similarly to me (with an exception of one), so I don't know just where the HELL that stereotype came from. In fact, one such douche kept on hitting on me during my college prep summer sessions and even rubbed my leg with a piece of paper. The only things that kept me from falcon-punching his sorry excuse for a butt to the next galaxy were 1.) a strong moral compass, 2.) the fact that the college prep program in question would have kicked me out for bad behavior and 3.) my mom would've chewed me out for beating someone up/losing my temper.

So, to whoever said that women are to blame: SHAME ON YOU. Just shame on you.



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01 May 2013, 9:21 pm

don't worry, I can't get a girlfriend either. And I ain't shy, Im just very eccentric. But I did have a girlfriend once,
only because she approach me first.

Talking to the ladies is easy, but having an eccentric personality, make them not want to date me.



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01 May 2013, 10:48 pm

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So... What the f*ck is wrong with me?


Nothing. Not a thing.

For me, I find it easier when I get to know the woman as a friend first. We have a chance to get to know each other and I can learn to feel more comfortable with them. Sometimes it can then lead to a great relationship or just making that new friend is good too.

-Don't be pushy.
-Don't look desperate.
-Don't try to impress them, just be yourself.



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01 May 2013, 11:06 pm

Vectorspace wrote:
It can't be hurtful, as I know I'm a nerd. :)
But I'd be curious what exactly about me looks especially nerdy. I'm not getting rid of the glasses because I need them, and I won't change my haircut because I'm so much used to it now.


You look perfectly fine, but I will say that your hair is a bit wild and really stands out. Even though you mentioned not wanting to cut it, I think it might help you out in the dating world. It's certainly not necessary though and there are plenty of women out there who prefer longer hair. No offense intended, just trying to offer my honest opinion. The glasses are fine though I think, they make you look distinguished!

Also, how long have you been playing in the orchestra? What do you play? As an avid fan of classical music, I have to say that I have an immense amount of respect for people in those positions, and can't help but be curious :D. Not to mention, being in an orchestra should give you a HUGE boost with the ladies lol!



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01 May 2013, 11:39 pm

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Also, how long have you been playing in the orchestra?

Almost 3 years in this one.
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What do you play?

I'm actually the concert master – that is, the "boss" of the first violins (I don't get paid, so I'm not sure if the word "boss" is applicable). Therefore, literally everyone in the orchestra should know me, because I conduct the tuning.
Oh, I should link this image: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5365334.html&highlight=#5365334
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Not to mention, being in an orchestra should give you a HUGE boost with the ladies lol!

I would have assumed so. Considering the gender ratio, I couldn't think of a better dating place for men...
Retrospectively, I think I did have a crush on the former concert master. I sat next to her for almost a year. It's not like asking her out would have worked, but I could have tried.



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16 May 2013, 1:00 pm

Update: Seems like the two people behind me are now actually a couple.

I'm not jealous because of her (she's really not my type and probably too young), but because he did it – unlike me.
And yes, he's also a shy nerd. Most of the approaching was done by her.



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31 May 2013, 10:15 am

According to the statistics published today, there are 5% more men than women in Germany aged 18–24, which means that unless lots of men are into older women, some men must remain single.

I am the 5%! :)

Good news: I "only" have to wait 30 years until the fraction will reverse.