I'm worried about my friend

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Wow, how ironic you specifically request no one post like that and the majority of the thread goes that way

Will power - tough to deal with. He's lost his ability to make choice and this is the outcome. How can one dig himself out of this? Persistently trying until successful by any means necessary (within reason). He wants to quit and told you, so, he has the desire to do so - one must build that desire to the point it becomes the absolute focus.

Are there any "drug" places in town the help those who are addicted? If so, check those out or refer him to one of those. I think there isnt a lot you, specifically, can do as its not your problem but I understand the feeling you would have over this.

what exactly am i doing wrong here? you people are shelterd little crybabys. are you gonna report me to the administrator for saying that? i just dont see if your so concernd about your friend and his drug problem why you waste your time online asking advice about "how to help them" how the hell do you think you help them? it sure isnt on the internet thats for sure. maybe you should be like "hey man i think you have a problem" im sure wherever you live there's somekind of free clinic where helps available.

I doubt snake has a lot of experience dealing with drug users so he asked for some advice, thats it. As for being shelters, far from it.

As well, he said if you dont have any advice, dont contribute.

Think of it this way. Imagine this thread was on a recent football game between 2 teams. Everyone in this thread was discussing the game, which team they rooted for, etc. Then you come in and say "Football sucks!" What have you contributed? The discussion wasnt on whether you liked football, or not, it was about a particular game.

You had nothing to say, the originator of this post specifically stated what he wanted to hear, but you disregarded that and started ripping on the drug (which, indirectly, meant you ripped on those who used it). We know its not a good drug, we KNOW that so WHY you needed to reassure 1+1=2 is beyond us.

You offered advice at the end of the last post yet, why did it take so long. Might seem simple to go tell someone "yo, go to a clinic" but it rarely ends there.

i guess you could say i have a problem with people telling others what he wants to hear. oh well

Well the thing is, he can sign himself out of a clinic. The only way around that is if the cops put him in there, and they say that they can't do it. Besides, then he'll just be hooked on methodome, which while it's better than heroine, it still isn't really getting clean.
He won't die if we force him to stop cold turkey will he? Because Josh (another friend) and i are thiking about shutting him away in Josh's garage, until he gets it out of his system.

I dont know. I know there may be a lot of crap from your friend as he goes through withdrawal. is there a way to get him to slowly come off of it?

Well I can take "crap from a friend", I expect it. It's not easy coming off of highly addictive drugs. I'm more concerned about rather withdrawal will lead to a heart attack. I honestly dunno any other way to help him, he won't likely kick it on his own..... I mean he wants to, he really does, but sometimes merely wanting to isn't enough.
His dealer comes up there where he and I both work (pizza hut). His dealer is named Tommy, Tommy and his girlfriend are both addicts. Logan (my friend who is in trouble with his drug addiction) will go into denial of his problems when he's really feigning. He'll say "I don't have a problem", but then when he comes down he's crying for help. I feel so bad, I really dunno what else to do. I can see he's fighting his addiction, but unfortunately he isn't winning the fight.

well you cant live someone elses life for them, i dont currently have any real friends only online ones but ive had friends in the past with simmilar problems, sometimes people just have to hit rock bottom before anything will change in there life. goodluck to you and your friend

maybe you could check up on him everyday to make sure he hasnt signed himself out?

Have you asked him if he would let you lock him in the basement? Do you have a basement to lock him in? Aren't there health concerns related to heroin withdrawal? Shouldn't he withdraw under medical supervision?

I would hate to see him die from withdrawal effects, and you get in trouble for "killing" him or "unlawful imprisonment."

I have interacted with drug addicts in the past and unfotunately, no matter how much you love them, it is out of your hands. They have to hit rock bottom themselves and turn for help themselves .

Very true. My youngest brother is a crack addict, a pathological liar, and a thief. After more than ten years of trying to help him only to have him steal from his own family (including me), cause my mother harm by taking her much-needed but addictive pain killers, which made her go into dangerous withdrawal (she had to be hospitalized), and continually being verbally abusive and bullying not only to her, but to our 90 year-old grandma, I've washed my hands of him. Don't want him near my kids and that's so, so sad...

I want to remember the darling, sweet boy he used to be. There's nothing else I can do.

Some people would say the same about cocaine, or beer, or cigarettes. It's a matter of preference.

My friend is on his way to kicking his addictions.... My other friend Josh has been keeping an eye on him this weekend, Logan has went 4 days without shooting up, he's eating healthy, he says he might even stop weed, which is good if it helps him stay away from heroin.

Yeah - I have addicts in my family, and what isla is saying is totally true. I don't know if you'd be interested, but something like al-Anon may help you cope with the fact that it is totally out of your hands. The other thing is that even if you DO lock him up and supervise him while he gets over the physical part of his addiction, he'll still have to deal with the psychological aspect of it and the cravings. In other words, he should go for therapy or to some 12-step program (Narcotics Anonymous) to help with that.

If all else fails, you could do an intervention. That would sort of bring the bottom to him rather than letting his addiction run its course until he hits bottom.