I was lied to...by another Aspie

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16 Feb 2007, 8:54 am

Gamester wrote:
hmm.

wow.

Okay.

interesting.

anymore one liners and I could be doing a joke show here soon.

AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP TIM?

AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP????

There are so many lectures I could be giving to you right now, but I shalnt. mainly because I think you realized your mistake on your own. But still.


It doesn't matter if the relationship was online or not. She broke a major promise to me.

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16 Feb 2007, 8:58 am

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That's the way the internet works. It's not nice, and it's not fair.

I've had this done to me since I was 14, and still do. People don't give reasons because they don't have a back bone. Try and find someone else, if possible, not on the internet.

You'd be better to know them offline too, rather than solely online.

I've cut people off before, but i'm more than happy to provide a reason if they seek one from me.


What upsets me more than that a major promise was broken was that I had limited my dating pool to other Aspies in hopes that I would be immune to such lies and mind games. How wrong I was.

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17 Feb 2007, 10:22 am

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I am sorry that this happened to you.

Before making any major romantic commitments, regarding marriage, for example, I think it would be best to meet the online friend in real-life first, but there may be exceptions to that rule, and maybe yours was one of them.


She and I had discussed meeting in person, but I didn't have enought money to visit her that summer (2006), so I scheduled it for next summer (2007). But she suddenly vanished from the online world.

I wonder if she was just stringing me along, which I never thought I would expect from another Aspie.

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17 Feb 2007, 10:25 am

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I wonder if she was just stringing me along, which I never thought I would expect from another Aspie.


If the individual (potentially) mislead you about one thing, how can you be so sure about other things, such as whether or not they had AS?



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17 Feb 2007, 10:46 am

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Tim_Tex wrote:
I wonder if she was just stringing me along, which I never thought I would expect from another Aspie.


If the individual (potentially) mislead you about one thing, how can you be so sure about other things, such as whether or not they had AS?


No one can be sure, but because this happened, I am now worried that there is something wrong with *me*.

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17 Feb 2007, 12:46 pm

Let me tell you something, my potential friend: it's not just aspies. And it's not just online.

My friend (who's on the spectrum) has had a real on-and-off in-person relationship with an NT woman for the past couple years. He'll call or e-mail, and she'll go 404 on him for sometimes weeks at a time. Any time I ask how they're doing together, his answer is "I wish I knew." What didn't help this relationship is the fact that her father is not real open-minded and had a real problem with my friend being on the spectrum, and had a serious meltdown about something while they were all out together. Whether or not that has anything to do with the rest of the story, I don't know. But I'm sure it couldn't have helped much.

About a month ago, said woman decides that after all that, she now wants to MARRY my friend. I was incredulous. Turns out Woman's friend had an engagement party and it went off so well that Woman wanted to have a party like that of her own...and to do that, she had to commit to Friend. I told Friend not to take Woman up on her offer, based on her spotty record on returning messages and her father's outbursts. He's got other prospects now (some online) and they're going a lot better than his in-person relationship did.

So to bottom-line it for you, no. The problem is probably not you. The problem is the woman you chose this time around, who sounds just like a lot of others, despite her Asperger's. Chin up, search on. You'll find the right one eventually.



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17 Feb 2007, 3:49 pm

Nothing's wrong with you. You're human.

1) Would you want to marry someone who has what you see as a serious character flaw, i.e., lying?

2) Would you want to marry someone who doesn't respect you?

3) Silence is an answer.


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17 Feb 2007, 3:51 pm

YowlingCat wrote:
Nothing's wrong with you. You're human.

1) Would you want to marry someone who has what you see as a serious character flaw, i.e., lying?

2) Would you want to marry someone who doesn't respect you?

3) Silence is an answer.


You deserve better.


Absolutely. If anything, view it this way. You may have been hurt now, but isn't that better than having had this stretch out for longer only to end in the same, or at least similar, way? That isn't to say that this was a good outcome, far from it! It could have been a lot worse though, and you could have wound up having more of your time wasted on it.



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17 Feb 2007, 3:58 pm

People with Asperger's are not saints, and in fact might be more prone to really badly hurt each other due to poor social skills, being emotionally screwed up, yet being able to get closer to you than an NT could (and the closer someone is to you, the more they can hurt you).

You should never enter into a relationship with someone with AS expecting to be treated perfectly. What you can expect, though, is to be better understood than by someone who is NT. But just because two people understand each other well and can relate to each other, does not mean the relationship will go smoothly.

Maybe you scared her without realizing it. Maybe she scared herself. Maybe she reached her "maximum" for human contact. Maybe she found someone else.

It would be nice if she would give you an explanation though. Leaving you in the lurch like that is inexcusable. You deserve a "yes, no, or maybe." Not silence.


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17 Feb 2007, 4:15 pm

An concrete answer is nice, but pursuing someone who doesn't want contact can be viewed as stalking at some point.



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17 Feb 2007, 4:33 pm

Poor Tim. :(

Don't worry. :wink:



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17 Feb 2007, 7:58 pm

This really upsets me because not only was she an Aspie, but she and I had similar interests and beliefs. Finding another Aspie in and of itself is difficult enough, but finding one who I can very easily connect with would be virtually impossible.

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17 Feb 2007, 8:02 pm

I've had someone pm me on aspie affect, but I think she is fake since I've seen the same message posted on other forums when I googled her email address.



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17 Feb 2007, 8:04 pm

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I've had someone pm me on aspie affect, but I think she is fake since I've seen the same message posted on other forums when I googled her email address.


That's happened to me before as well. I think it might have been a scammer.

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18 Feb 2007, 4:58 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
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That's the way the internet works. It's not nice, and it's not fair.

I've had this done to me since I was 14, and still do. People don't give reasons because they don't have a back bone. Try and find someone else, if possible, not on the internet.

You'd be better to know them offline too, rather than solely online.

I've cut people off before, but i'm more than happy to provide a reason if they seek one from me.


What upsets me more than that a major promise was broken was that I had limited my dating pool to other Aspies in hopes that I would be immune to such lies and mind games. How wrong I was.

Tim


You're seeting yourself up for destruction, there. You have an idea in your mind about what aspies are like and you're completely wrong. We are only human. We are not some elite race that understand everyone and are perfect people.

I would widen your dating pool to a larger group of people If you want a chance at success.



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18 Feb 2007, 4:58 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
That's the way the internet works. It's not nice, and it's not fair.

I've had this done to me since I was 14, and still do. People don't give reasons because they don't have a back bone. Try and find someone else, if possible, not on the internet.

You'd be better to know them offline too, rather than solely online.

I've cut people off before, but i'm more than happy to provide a reason if they seek one from me.


What upsets me more than that a major promise was broken was that I had limited my dating pool to other Aspies in hopes that I would be immune to such lies and mind games. How wrong I was.

Tim