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FireyInspiration
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11 Jul 2014, 11:10 pm

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Waterfalls, I suppose it does come down to the individual rather than any labels.

Toy Soldier, I believe that networking and establishing contacts have a lot to do with getting published. There is some abysmal writing being published for sure.

Wozeree, I suppose I do have things to offer the world.

It just really brings me down when things that I thought I could strive for are not within my grasp because of what I am.


Connections are almost all that matters in writing. Stopped me from getting a good go at it, despite some awards for it in college



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12 Jul 2014, 12:21 am

I would seriously find giving a few blow jobs much less degrading than breaking my back, serving up poison, and having to smile at mean people at a fast food place for minimum wage.. Have you considered an escort service?



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12 Jul 2014, 12:51 am

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Ann2011 wrote:
Waterfalls, I suppose it does come down to the individual rather than any labels.

Toy Soldier, I believe that networking and establishing contacts have a lot to do with getting published. There is some abysmal writing being published for sure.

Wozeree, I suppose I do have things to offer the world.

It just really brings me down when things that I thought I could strive for are not within my grasp because of what I am.


Connections are almost all that matters in writing. Stopped me from getting a good go at it, despite some awards for it in college


That's not true any more. You can easily publish and market your own books. You may not make a million dollars, but you can earn money. It's a job like anything else, just don't think of it like hitting the lottery and making it big.



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12 Jul 2014, 7:51 am

One last (and sorry for repeating myself) bit of advice. Don't. You already have mental turmoil now, including issues of self worth. I don't see how turning to that alternative for some extra money can do anything but devastate you.



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12 Jul 2014, 9:21 am

In case you somehow missed this:

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12 Jul 2014, 10:02 am

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I would seriously find giving a few blow jobs much less degrading than breaking my back, serving up poison, and having to smile at mean people at a fast food place for minimum wage.. Have you considered an escort service?


I would rather build up my own clientele with people I know. Get rid of the middleman so to speak. I actually have someone in mind who might go for it, but I'm not sure how to broach the subject.

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That's not true any more. You can easily publish and market your own books. You may not make a million dollars, but you can earn money. It's a job like anything else, just don't think of it like hitting the lottery and making it big.

I don't need to hit the lottery. I'd just like someone to return my email, even if it's to say they're not interested. But I will keep trying. I once read this book called "Rotten Rejections." It's a collection of rejection letters sent in response to submissions that when published were received as great novels.

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you really seem like a great woman. I think you are too hard on yourself. I can tell you in the right area two people with low income can do ok. so nothing to worry there I think, having extra money is nice, I hope you can find a side job.

hugs tight again.


Too bad we don't live closer. Sounds like we could have some fun. I agree, two disabled people in a relationship could be good for each other. PM me and we can chat.
*hug*

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One last (and sorry for repeating myself) bit of advice. Don't. You already have mental turmoil now, including issues of self worth. I don't see how turning to that alternative for some extra money can do anything but devastate you.

I think my self-worth issues are beyond repair. Especially with regard to men. But I'm with Vicky on this one. I think people take the sex act too seriously. For me, there's no emotion involved anymore anyway. It's like a medical procedure.

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In case you somehow missed this:

CNN Hooker Story


I think it's terrible that the feds closed down that site. It's like they're trying to make things more dangerous for the sex workers.



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12 Jul 2014, 10:03 am

I wouldn't let some comment by an NT make you think AS is going to keep you from being relationship material. I think as humans, we have this automatic tendency to create a template of the opposite sex in our minds and assume every person of the opposite sex is this way or that way. The truth is that people are individuals, regardless of whether they are male or female. Every person have different things that attract them to other people. If there weren't people who are compatible with aspies, the genes for autism wouldn't be so prevalent in society. My thinking (and perhaps I am projecting my stuff onto you) is that you have low self-esteem due to being different (having mental disorders) and assume no one will accept you. Any evidence to back up that belief, you readily accept, but any evidence that contradicts that belief, you have a hard time accepting. This belief system (not reality outside of your head) is the problem, in my opinion.

Job stuff: I don't know about the social services system in Canada. However, in the U.S., they have Vocational Rehabilitation for people with documented disabilities. Vocational Rehabilitation has the goal of helping you find a suitable job and helping you get accommodations for your disability once employed. They also have supported employment for people with disabilities who want to work. Have you checked into those services? I am on Voc. Rehab. I signed up for it after I ran out of ideas about finding a job in my field. They helped me out.



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12 Jul 2014, 10:10 am

em_tsuj wrote:
I wouldn't let some comment by an NT make you think AS is going to keep you from being relationship material. I think as humans, we have this automatic tendency to create a template of the opposite sex in our minds and assume every person of the opposite sex is this way or that way. The truth is that people are individuals, regardless of whether they are male or female. Every person have different things that attract them to other people. If there weren't people who are compatible with aspies, the genes for autism wouldn't be so prevalent in society. My thinking (and perhaps I am projecting my stuff onto you) is that you have low self-esteem due to being different (having mental disorders) and assume no one will accept you. Any evidence to back up that belief, you readily accept, but any evidence that contradicts that belief, you have a hard time accepting. This belief system (not reality outside of your head) is the problem, in my opinion.


This is true. I must work on my thinking more. It's a constant battle for me to control my negative thinking. Thanks.

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Job stuff: I don't know about the social services system in Canada. However, in the U.S., they have Vocational Rehabilitation for people with documented disabilities. Vocational Rehabilitation has the goal of helping you find a suitable job and helping you get accommodations for your disability once employed. They also have supported employment for people with disabilities who want to work. Have you checked into those services? I am on Voc. Rehab. I signed up for it after I ran out of ideas about finding a job in my field. They helped me out.

Yes, we do have vocational assistance. Perhaps they can help.



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12 Jul 2014, 10:37 am

What type of writing do you do? We are about 5 years out [or less] but we are also working on an Autistic publishing company.



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12 Jul 2014, 11:00 am

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What type of writing do you do? We are about 5 years out [or less] but we are also working on an Autistic publishing company.


Cool 8)
I can write about pretty much anything. I've only done non-fiction, but am attempting to write a mystery novel.



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12 Jul 2014, 11:21 am

Ann2011 wrote:
vickygleitz wrote:
I would seriously find giving a few blow jobs much less degrading than breaking my back, serving up poison, and having to smile at mean people at a fast food place for minimum wage.. Have you considered an escort service?


I would rather build up my own clientele with people I know. Get rid of the middleman so to speak. I actually have someone in mind who might go for it, but I'm not sure how to broach the subject.

wozeree wrote:
That's not true any more. You can easily publish and market your own books. You may not make a million dollars, but you can earn money. It's a job like anything else, just don't think of it like hitting the lottery and making it big.

I don't need to hit the lottery. I'd just like someone to return my email, even if it's to say they're not interested. But I will keep trying. I once read this book called "Rotten Rejections." It's a collection of rejection letters sent in response to submissions that when published were received as great novels.

sly279 wrote:
you really seem like a great woman. I think you are too hard on yourself. I can tell you in the right area two people with low income can do ok. so nothing to worry there I think, having extra money is nice, I hope you can find a side job.

hugs tight again.


Too bad we don't live closer. Sounds like we could have some fun. I agree, two disabled people in a relationship could be good for each other. PM me and we can chat.
*hug*

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One last (and sorry for repeating myself) bit of advice. Don't. You already have mental turmoil now, including issues of self worth. I don't see how turning to that alternative for some extra money can do anything but devastate you.

I think my self-worth issues are beyond repair. Especially with regard to men. But I'm with Vicky on this one. I think people take the sex act too seriously. For me, there's no emotion involved anymore anyway. It's like a medical procedure.

wozeree wrote:
In case you somehow missed this:

CNN Hooker Story


I think it's terrible that the feds closed down that site. It's like they're trying to make things more dangerous for the sex workers.


Have you not considered self-publishing? You would need to hire an editor because you won't see all of your typos, etc. But if you are confident that your writing (content) is good enough, hiring someone to proof for typos won't be too expensive. THen just get really savy about social media and if you have to, you could even adopt a writer persona so the real you won't feel invaded. Treat it like a job. You can earn a living this way.

I really wouldn't be a prostitute - they have pimps for a reason and it's not just to find the clients, it's to keep the clients under control.



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12 Jul 2014, 11:38 am

Ok, I am in the last ditch. So forgive me for being blunt. The current trend to glamorize prostitution is utter BS. The problem is not with the prostitutes, it is with the customers, among which can be found the worst of humanity. If you think you can manage to only find safe partners, and still find work, you are dreaming. I nearly lost a heroin addicted niece to it, and I went to High School and ran on the same track team as a man who strangled approx. 17 prostitutes. For kicks. And I wouldn't mind kicking anyone in the ass who tells you its a reasonable option. Have they done it as a job themselves? No. Its a choice of financial desperation or stupidity, neither of which characterizes you.



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12 Jul 2014, 1:02 pm

wozeree wrote:
Have you not considered self-publishing? You would need to hire an editor because you won't see all of your typos, etc. But if you are confident that your writing (content) is good enough, hiring someone to proof for typos won't be too expensive. THen just get really savy about social media and if you have to, you could even adopt a writer persona so the real you won't feel invaded. Treat it like a job. You can earn a living this way.

I really wouldn't be a prostitute - they have pimps for a reason and it's not just to find the clients, it's to keep the clients under control.


I have considered self publishing, but in the meantime I'm hoping to sell some articles.

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Ok, I am in the last ditch. So forgive me for being blunt. The current trend to glamorize prostitution is utter BS. The problem is not with the prostitutes, it is with the customers, among which can be found the worst of humanity. If you think you can manage to only find safe partners, and still find work, you are dreaming. I nearly lost a heroin addicted niece to it, and I went to High School and ran on the same track team as a man who strangled approx. 17 prostitutes. For kicks. And I wouldn't mind kicking anyone in the ass who tells you its a reasonable option. Have they done it as a job themselves? No. Its a choice of financial desperation or stupidity, neither of which characterizes you.


Well I will defer to the majority then. Nothing is straightforward and it is possible that someone could do me harm. And thanks, but don't kick Vicky's ass, okay. 8)



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12 Jul 2014, 5:43 pm

I don't have a job and am on disability. I would like to make money writing. I'm going to try and make myself write something every day. Have you tried writing about your own life experience? I heard that it's best to write about what you know. I find it theraputic to write about all the crazy stuff that goes through my head. I've had others read it and find it interesting sometimes. Since you have autism, you have a perspective that the NT's don't. It seems like people enjoy reading stuff that's new to them. Keep writing. Share it with others. You never know when you might make a hit.



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13 Jul 2014, 1:14 am

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FireyInspiration wrote:
Ann2011 wrote:
Waterfalls, I suppose it does come down to the individual rather than any labels.

Toy Soldier, I believe that networking and establishing contacts have a lot to do with getting published. There is some abysmal writing being published for sure.

Wozeree, I suppose I do have things to offer the world.

It just really brings me down when things that I thought I could strive for are not within my grasp because of what I am.


Connections are almost all that matters in writing. Stopped me from getting a good go at it, despite some awards for it in college


That's not true any more. You can easily publish and market your own books. You may not make a million dollars, but you can earn money. It's a job like anything else, just don't think of it like hitting the lottery and making it big.


Yes, but with the associated costs of doing all that, many people barely break even. I'm not saying its impossible to make money, but it certainly isn't easy



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13 Jul 2014, 1:20 am

I'm sorry you feel that way, Ann. I'm sure a lot of us can relate.
Prostitution is de-criminalized in New Zealand.. you could live here. But most people don't have respect for people who choose to do it.
I hope things work out for you in a way ho heal your suffering.