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03 Aug 2014, 5:16 pm

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She sounds really passive aggressive.When I think of a toxic mom I'm reminded of Livia from the Sopranos.


From what I have read personally, she has fit best within the hypervigilant narcissist criteria. She may be sociopatic, I don't know for sure. From some of the things she has done to me, she very well may be. If she is, like most all others, she hides it extremely well.



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03 Aug 2014, 9:09 pm

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Misslizard wrote:
She sounds really passive aggressive.When I think of a toxic mom I'm reminded of Livia from the Sopranos.


From what I have read personally, she has fit best within the hypervigilant narcissist criteria. She may be sociopatic, I don't know for sure. From some of the things she has done to me, she very well may be. If she is, like most all others, she hides it extremely well.


At one point Livia on the Sopranos was diagnosed by Tony's psychiatrist as narcissistic personality disorder and at another time his psychiatrist said she sounded borderline personality disorder. If she broke the law in the way she treated her son, she could be sociopathic like yournamehere said.

Susan Forward wrote books about toxic parents but I have not read them as I never felt up to what I might feel.


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03 Aug 2014, 10:47 pm

I cannot even watch the news.



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04 Aug 2014, 11:34 am

If you can find a good therapist, it can make a big difference in how you feel and cope. I believe emotional abuse falls in the category of domestic violence. Words fail me. Do you have any extended family that would be supportive and you could trust?


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04 Aug 2014, 12:54 pm

My sister is nice. Everyone else just has some weird coping skill. I tell people my problems, and the things that have happened. Even the ones who give them to me. That is the only therapy I have ever had. It's fun. She gets to lie, turn things around, and tell me it wasn't that bad. She saw a therapist when I was a kid. She always came home crying, and no one gave her the sympathy she wanted, so she quit.



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04 Aug 2014, 1:33 pm

Truthfully though. The only support I have really had in my life is a personal informal diagnosis, and dealing with it. The help me department has not existed for me. Not unless somebody gets something out of it really. I don't even know the first thing about how to do this stuff.



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04 Aug 2014, 1:37 pm

My bio mom is toxic,I've cut her out of my life.I do feel sorry for her,but she manipulates and lies.she's been to rehab several times,but she goes back to her old ways.I have enough problems keeping my head above water,I'm not going to let her latch on and drown me.She gets twice the money I do,yet always calling wanting to borrow off me with some sad sack story.


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04 Aug 2014, 5:28 pm

My parents actually did pritty well. They have helped me too. Not without a little suffering for not doing as well as my mom wants me to. It is like a rollercoaster of ups, and downs. I don't know what she is going to do next.



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05 Aug 2014, 12:35 am

yournamehere wrote:
My parents actually did pritty well. They have helped me too. Not without a little suffering for not doing as well as my mom wants me to. It is like a rollercoaster of ups, and downs. I don't know what she is going to do next.


The word "rollercoaster" is frequently associated with borderline personality disorder. There is a site: outofthefog.net
it is personality disorder support and some information.

I find consolation in reading about the category/explanation of people who are causing me grief. It help me in knowing what to expect from them and explaining why they do some of what they do.


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05 Aug 2014, 6:00 am

Thank you.

I have been reading some of the stuff. It is like things I already know, and have different made up names for all of it, because I have never read about it, and I know what it is. Sad.

Like what they call the abusive cycle. I call the viscous circle. Alot of people on my moms side of the family are the masters of emotional abuse. It is a normal occurrence.

I have taken one of those silly narcissist quizzes, and have scored very low. I'm sure some of the reason is because I try too hard to not be like them. I have always been a target for abuse. How treating people soo bad, and to like it soo much is something I have not understood. Understanding exactly what they are doing is very helpful. Their behavior is beneath me.

Honestly. People talk about having a toxic person in the family. I have a toxic family. Of course they are not all bad, but alot are. I have known alot of toxic people. I have had toxic friends. It seemed soo normal for the longest time. They enjoyed me. It has been like a learning curve of cruelty, and abuse for me. People in and out of jail, prison, addicts, dealers, pushers, gamblers, thrill seekers, abusers, self inflictors, fighters, murderers, counterfeiters, thieves, patholigical liars, I don't know how I could possibly put a face on all of these words, but I can, and do. I don't know how I have made it through all of this without being more like them, or less of a person than what I am. They say that aspies are good at mimicking, and faking themselves to be like other people, to keep from getting bullied and picked on, and I have done just that. I did not like it either. It actually may have saved my life, and my soul.



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05 Aug 2014, 12:08 pm

It is amazing that you did not descend into their lifestyle and become an abuser or even perish. If there is a university in your area, you might be able to get therapy on a sliding scale.


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05 Aug 2014, 12:22 pm

When you become mature, it really is not that difficult to understand right from wrong. things do not make sence, and cannot work properly unless some people on the face of this planet can tell the difference. Imagine what the world would be like if everyone was sociopathic. Human life probably would not exist. Some people need to not be. If everyone was not, the world would be a better place. That truth makes me o.k. What is a sliding scale?



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05 Aug 2014, 2:37 pm

Ooh. No pay stuff. I would really like a professional evaluation. The whole psychology thing, I don't think I would go for. I want answers, and I expect results. That alone pritty much defies psychology, because most people don't really make a whole lot of sence. It is not like a car or something. Besides, if I told them about things I had to deal with, I would probably be there forever. They would turn me into a test, or a science experiment or something. Make me take pills. There are already crazies that want to write a book about my family tragedies. National news, t.v. show, blablabla. That is why I cannot watch the news. Those people are horrible. Why would people want to be reminded of that stuff? It's like, ooh hey, I have a noodle salad lifestyle, and I want to watch the news everyday. For the entertainment, and wonder why in the world people would do that? Because it's excitement or something, and I don't know. I do. It's not me. That is all I need to know.

Have a great day. I cannot find an emoticon for a straight blank face? :roll: