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I'm really sorry that there are people who measure the worth of a person by their grades in school.

Oh come on. When things go poorly, and it looks like all of your dreams (which may well depend on those grades) are fading away - what do you want us to feel? When our sense of duty to do well is slain - how should we feel? It's got nothing to do with worth, and everything to do with possible futures.

At least you have some insight!

It could be worse. I did really badly in 10th grade too - partly because the teachers were idiots. When I was in 10th grade I wished I could take advice like Werbert's to either get my act together or ask the teachers for help. I tried to ask the teachers for help, but they just blamed it back on me.

I ended up changing schools (I left a private school and went to a public school) and did much better in terms of both grades and social life. So, if changing schools is an option, it's something to consider.

If not, high school grades are not the end of the world. If I were to believe my highschool teachers, I would have never gotten a job in anything other than food service or housekeeping due to my grade in 10th grade English Guess what - even if you barely graduate highschool, you can go to community college and after about your first year & a half no one cares about anything that happenned prior to your going to college.

So, at the end of the day, I think that you lack perspective on the situation because of all the BS you are fed in highschool. You, just like countless other 10th graders before you and the 10th graders that will come after you, believe that your current situation has a bearing on the rest of your life. It doesn't. I'm not saying that your situation doesn't suck - I'm just trying to give you perspective from someone who has been in your situation.

By the way - despite the many F's as I got in 10th grade - I managed to get a masters degree.

Wow!

All of you are very interesting!

Janicka, my problem is that I let those people get inside my head. They were not good tenants.

That's interesting!

Don't you have anything bad to say?

No!

At the time, I did too. I am speaking from the perspective of someone who allowed herself to get caught up in all the BS only to learn that it was BS.

Why is it that?

Are you really asking a question, or is this another one of your inane comments?

No, I was really asking why he thought it was a bunch of nonsense.

To clarify, I dont' think that depression is a bunch of nonsense - and WinterHikari sounds like he (or she) has problems with depression. My two cents on the matter is that at that particular age and with the types of stress that he (or she) is experiencing, altering the present situation may make sense.

First, changing highschools should be examined as a possible solution. In my previous post, I explained how a change to a more positive highschool worked wonders for me. That's not a bunch of nonsense - that type of change worked wonders for me.

Second (and this is going to be the more long winded part) is that I think WinterHikari needs perspective on the situation with grades. I don't know how it is now, but 15-20ish years ago highschool teachers made the biggest stink possible how every time you take a crap in highschool, it will effect your prospects for college admissions and the rest of your adult life. That's a bunch of crap. I will now proceed to debunk each myth that I was told in highschool one by one.

Myth #1 - Your present grades/standardized test scores will prevent you from getting into college: Somewhat true. You may not get into Harvard or Yale immediately. However, once you put some time in at any college (your open admissions community college included) no one will ever ask for these grades/scores again.

Myth #2 - Reputable graduate schools will request to see your highschool grades/standardized test scores: False. See explanation of myth #1.

Myth #3 - You have to learn to live with all of your instructors, as you will not have a choice as to your instructor in college: False. If you have a complete jackass of a teacher in college, you can drop the class or transfer sections. Generally, it is a good idea to find out from older and more seasoned students who the bad teachers are so that they can be avoided at all costs.

Myth #4 - Your learning style must be adaptable, since you will have to take classes in lecture halls of 1,000 + students where no individual help is available: Mostly false. Even if you do end up in a large lecture hall, there are generally teaching assistants and learning centers available to help with material that you don't understand. If you simply do not want to be in such a large lecture, you can avoid it by taking night classes and/or taking lower-level prerequisite/general ed courses at community college and only taking upper-level classes at the university that you eventually choose.

Myth #5 - All colleges are created equal, therefore you must conform: False. I think that I addressed that in the previous two myths. The course content is considered, for the most part, to be created equal (e.g. Physics 101 at Podunk Community College = Physics 101 at Podunk State University). But Podunk Community College may be delivering it in a classroom of 20 students in a more supportive environment. That's why I took physics at Salt Lake Community College and not the University of Utah.

Myth #6 - Colleges will never accomodate your individual learning needs, so you must conform: In our case, false. There's something called the American's with Disabilities Act, so if you need untimed test, etc. you can have them. Generally this involves some beureaucratic red tape once you get to the college, so if you are getting accommodations at your highschool, have their main office send it to the ADA office of the college that you plan to attend.

Anyway, that's why I (and I am a she, by the way) think that a lot of the depressing BS that gets told to highschoolers that aren't doing well. And that's also why I think that it is BS. What makes it worse is that high school is geared towards the most simple-minded sort of NT, and the instructors can't hanldle intelligent discussion (that's where I got in trouble). The public high school I ended up going to had a cross-enrollment agreement with Syracuse University, so I ended up taking some of those classes and ended up doing better and enjoying them a lot more.

Hope that answers your question.

Good!

I'm glad that there are people who can relate to other people on this forum!

Good lord man, what kind of happy pills do they have you on? If I were a drug-user, I'd want some.