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01 Apr 2007, 8:09 pm

You're about as thin as I am, I am naturally thin and, from looking at these pictures, you appear to be too. So long as you are healthy, you're fine. You are not skinny by any means which is a good thing (in my mind skinny is undernourished) and you look good to me.


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02 Apr 2007, 9:43 am

Ditto what others have said. Your ribs don't seem to be overly prominent in your pictures, so you still have a relatively normal layer of fat. You also appear to be quite young, so you're likely as thin as you'll ever be.

I wonder if aspies are more likely than normal to obsess a bit about their weight. I know that I can't stand feeling fat, and I do what I have to to retain the same size I was as a teenager. It's not really a vanity thing, as women seem to prefer their men to be of average or higher weight. I think it has more to do with the fact that I feel like a much younger person, and prefer to retain those features.

Of course, I've also exhibited some signs of OCD, so perhaps it's just part of a disorder.



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02 Apr 2007, 2:21 pm

You look fine. I'd worry more about the one meal a day. Your eating should be more spread out. Try a piece of fruit (orange, apple, pear etc.) a few times a day. Make it a routine. I've found that eating about 5 times a day works best for me. Though I'd be having crazy meltdowns and a lot of lethargy if I did 1 big meal.


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02 Apr 2007, 2:41 pm

Don't get any thinner than that. You look borderline too thin.



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02 Apr 2007, 3:44 pm

Apatura wrote:
Don't get any thinner than that. You look borderline too thin.



The views seem to vary so much. Some think too thin, some think thin, some think fine... goes to show it is all rather subjective. I look at myself most days and feel I want to lose 14 pounds to look how I wish.


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02 Apr 2007, 6:16 pm

A few minutes ago I made a remark on another thread about self starvation equals self destruction.
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02 Apr 2007, 6:25 pm

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[I look at myself most days and feel I want to lose 14 pounds to look how I wish.


If you lost 14 pounds you'd be risking your health.



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02 Apr 2007, 7:46 pm

If you can see you're rubs and your hip bones, you're certainly not overweight, so it would be silly to think you'd need to *loose* weight. But as for your question. Has a *doctor* told you you needed to gain weight? (If so, then you probably are too far below the medical "healthy" weight range") Looking thin and being dangerously underweight are two different things...if you were dangerously underweight, you'd be at risk of heart problems (Even sudden cardiac arrest) could have problems breathing, and generally functioning...If you generally *feel* healthy it's a good indication that you're not too underweight.


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02 Apr 2007, 7:51 pm

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If you lost 14 pounds you'd be risking your health.


I agree, you look healthy however on the thin side, that much loss would no longer look healthy. Perhaps an exercise regimen would be better. You claim to see fat (I don't see it). If you want to lose fat then try looking into body building. You lose fat without losing weight (they are two very different things best kept separate in your mind).

Running, bicycling, swimming etc all work well too. You'll have to eat appropriately for the level of exercise you are committing too but you won't put on fat.

Don't worry about looking too much like a professional body builder. They train many hours a day to maintain their "shapes". If you don't put at least 3-5 hours a day in exercising, you won't come any where near that. A healthy shape is far more attainable with a much smaller exercise time investment.


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02 Apr 2007, 8:09 pm

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If you lost 14 pounds you'd be risking your health.


I agree, you look healthy however on the thin side, that much loss would no longer look healthy. Perhaps an exercise regimen would be better. You claim to see fat (I don't see it). If you want to lose fat then try looking into body building. You lose fat without losing weight (they are two very different things best kept separate in your mind).

Running, bicycling, swimming etc all work well too. You'll have to eat appropriately for the level of exercise you are committing too but you won't put on fat.

Don't worry about looking too much like a professional body builder. They train many hours a day to maintain their "shapes". If you don't put at least 3-5 hours a day in exercising, you won't come any where near that. A healthy shape is far more attainable with a much smaller exercise time investment.


Until 2 weeks ago, I had been doing 2-3 hours of exercise a day, or most days. My brother told me it was too much. I stopped that 2 weeks ago. Didn't intend to stop altogether, I just felt so drained and tired that I couldn't find the energy to do it. I do have an exercise bike. I do not know what I weigh in truth. Been months since I checked. I know my waist is about 26 inches.

As to healthy, I feel unhealthy, but then I sleep at insane hours, I do not get out much anymore and I have an odd diet that consists mainly of my one meal a day which is always 400 calories or less, and a load of diet chocolate mousses, fruit and corn thin crispbread things. That is about all I eat.

The problem is, when my life becomes highly stressful or out of my control, I seem to instantly become totally obsessed with my body size/weight and being delicate/frail. It is a really illogical situation and is causing me a lot of distress. I cannot even sit down at my laptop with a coffee and my dinner without checking myself over and over and over in the mirror for up to an hour and then, of course, I get a meltdown because of my inability to control this obsession.

Hard to gauge what is thin and what not. I get a sore butt sitting on chairs, my spine sticks out slightly, my hipbones do stick out when I am standing up, I can see my bottom rib when I breathe in and I can feel the bone at the top of my butt.


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02 Apr 2007, 8:29 pm

Get rid of the mirrors for one. Throw them out. Take away the temptation to look. Give them to someone else. It's like having snacks in the house. Don't got em, can't eat them (I'll eat any amount of cookies if I have them).

If your only eating 400 calories, get to a GNC type place and get some protein shake mix. It has calories, vitamins, minerals and protein. At that level of eating you are likely to be malnourished (which is likely one source of feeling drained). Drink that in addition to what you are currently eating.

That and talk to a doctor before you go to far, not after your there. 400 isn't enough.


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02 Apr 2007, 9:04 pm

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Get rid of the mirrors for one. Throw them out. Take away the temptation to look. Give them to someone else. It's like having snacks in the house. Don't got em, can't eat them (I'll eat any amount of cookies if I have them).

If your only eating 400 calories, get to a GNC type place and get some protein shake mix. It has calories, vitamins, minerals and protein. At that level of eating you are likely to be malnourished (which is likely one source of feeling drained). Drink that in addition to what you are currently eating.

That and talk to a doctor before you go to far, not after your there. 400 isn't enough.


Oh no, I have more than 400. Just my main meal is 400 or less. I get up to 1000 or 1200 with the other bits and pieces I eat. I tend to get through a lot of those chocolate mousses. And yes, I am trying to work out a way to get rid of the mirror. Problem is, I live in a rented room and the mirror is attached to my wardrobe door...on the outside. I have toyed with the idea of wrenching it off somehow.


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03 Apr 2007, 1:54 pm

Graelwyn wrote:
The problem is, when my life becomes highly stressful or out of my control, I seem to instantly become totally obsessed with my body size/weight and being delicate/frail.


Do you derive satisfaction from controlling your weight, or is it something you do compulsively? That this behavior is exacerbated by stress would lend support to this being part of an anxiety disorder. Do you have any other irrational habits/obsessions?

I think I understand the "frail" appearance. When I was abjectly depressed, my weight dropped like a stone, and I looked like I was dying. Though I'd been feeling bad for quite a while, it wasn't until people could plainly see something was wrong that they appreciated the situation. People want their body to represent their internal state.



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03 Apr 2007, 1:58 pm

jfberge wrote:
Graelwyn wrote:
The problem is, when my life becomes highly stressful or out of my control, I seem to instantly become totally obsessed with my body size/weight and being delicate/frail.


Do you derive satisfaction from controlling your weight, or is it something you do compulsively? That this behavior is exacerbated by stress would lend support to this being part of an anxiety disorder. Do you have any other irrational habits/obsessions?

I think I understand the "frail" appearance. When I was abjectly depressed, my weight dropped like a stone, and I looked like I was dying. Though I'd been feeling bad for quite a while, it wasn't until people could plainly see something was wrong that they appreciated the situation. People want their body to represent their internal state.



Your last sentence does ring true if I am honest, but to answer your question, yes, there are other things I have that are obsessions/irrational habits and I am a naturally anxious person. I have also noticed this situation get worse when I haven't had enough sleep or there has been too much noise etc etc. I wouldn't say I am actively controlling my weight right now as I am eating what I want in a sense, but the obsessiveness over the exercise and over my physical appearance is distressing and is pushing me to want to cut my food out. I say every day that I will eat less. But I don't think I will ever go back to how I was in my severe state. I was 74ibs at my worst, not been underweight really for about 5 years now.


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03 Apr 2007, 9:54 pm

Tape news paper, plastic anything over it if you can't remove it.

You can remove just about anything off a mirror with a razor blade. I've peeled automotive paint off a mirror before. Scratched it a little but it's still good.

Talk to your landlord, He'll probably not have an issue with removing it.

1000-1200 sounds good to me as long as your not really active. I usually hit the 3500+ mark so thats a foreign land to me.


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06 Apr 2007, 2:56 pm

to be completely honest you are very thin. probably not healthy in my opinion.