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If you're not like that then clearly I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about a rather large majority of women today but not all women so try not to take it personal. You're not all women so you don't have to defend all women kind. Ignoring the problem won't help to fix it so ignoring thrust a lot of women are this way will only make things worse.

I see it day after day wherever I go. dating sites, Facebook, blogs, women magazine sites, at work, on the bus, etc lots of women tell their daughters it who tell their daughters etc. society at large is redefining how it values human life what use to be based on morals personality and ideas is now based on money and expensive objects.

You don't like that women are valued based on sex no?
Well I don't like that men are valued based on their income. Sexism goes both ways.

Or maybe not everyone is great at writing or maybe in my hast to type as I'm trying not to be late out the door and in my sadness I forgot to put most

So imagine most before women.

Hold old are you?
And i dont know maybe Eugene Oregon is just super superficial but the. Again I hear similar cases from all over the USA. I hear from people outside the us how in general the USA is not superficial then Most the word is. You have people that would have millions of people starve and freeze to death on the street so they could buy one more bmw or another flatscreen they don't need. If that is t superficial what is?

Most my female friends tell me the same thing that I'm undateable and j need to get a real job. One is in college the other works at fast food place. I could care less if some ceo won't date me I'm not trying to date CEOs I'm looking at women who have no job or work at min Wage jobs, or college though most women here are going to college and think they'll going get high paying jobs boy do most of them have a rude awaking waiting for them when the graduate. So why am I only date able if I make $25 an hour regardless if I actually even have anything left after(many people in the middle class spend way more then they make it seems) my friends parents both made good money yet they went through cars, horses, atvs etc and did bankruptcy twice and got kicked out of many houses. Why are they more dateable then me who makes min wage but lives within his means

1. Agree with YippySkippy.
2. Economy in Eugene's booming according to a quick google news search that also says it is one of the richest cities in OR.
3. Clearly, you need better friends.
4. Sorry to hear your unbri going was so unstable.
5. $25 per hour isn't that much money. I got paid $18-19/hr to babysit in HS.

That was the most awkward apology I think I've read yet. And yes, that was sarcasm I realize it wasn't actually an apology. But it should have been. Would it actually be that difficult to say, "oh, hey; I'm sorry, I didn't mean all women, only a subset"? Instead, you go with an offensive defense and try to put her in her place "I'm not talking about you", "try not to take it personal". Is it possible that you treat other women this way, too?

Why should he apologize to someone he did not address specifically?

If you know that something doesn't apply to you, then why get upset? I don't get it. That's a very fragile self-image if one automatically associates to something like that.

Pixels on a screen making patterns. Don't make them little pixels in a pattern ruin your day.

If I said, "Men are stupid azzholes," would you feel that it's nothing personal and nothing to get upset about? After all, you can just pretend I said "some". Perhaps I was in a hurry and couldn't be bothered not to insult every member of your gender.

It's biology, women are attracted to security and social capital whereas men are more physical and do not care much about the security/social capital she might bring. If anything, I'd say a lot of guys are intimidated by a woman with a lot of security and social capital. From a logical standpoint, it makes perfect sense. Why would the chooser choose someone that doesn't improve their standing? Nobody wants somebody that they feel will drag them down, it doesn't matter how witty or nice or how much of a good person you are, all that matter is what you bring to the table and for us on the spectrum there isn't much. For a lot of women, there is a mantra of never "dating down" and we're on the bottom so that's that.

There are guys on this forum looking for financially successful women.

But, young pretty women with money are like unicorns--they don't really exist. So are young, handsome men with money. But, you can get two out of three.

Women go for handsome men with money, while guys go for pretty young women.

In my experience, men aren't necessarily intimidated by girls with security and social capital. Spent 3 years posted in Geneva, a one-horse town in which there are 100k diplomats (who have Master's degrees and speak two languages, minimum) and no jobs for their spouses. Everybody under 45-50 who was married had an equally educated (bored out of their mind) spouse with a cool job back home. There were no "trophy wives" (young, pretty, no qualifications) but tons of young, pretty, two degrees and a job as an investment banker or geologist or Spanish professor wives. Ditto the male partners of diplomats.

I also think girls with good jobs expect partners with good jobs. If you worked hard to get a degree and a job you enjoy, a partner with similar values is likely to be seeking the same.

There is also the difficulty of working as partners. It is much easier to divide up the work and responsibilities if the partners are similar than if the partners are different. I know young two couples who were successful enough to buy homes in the suburbs. In each case they both work in the same professions.

Most men are as*holes though.

Going try to refrain from posting anymore.

So if 25 isn't that much mind you Katy that most household income here is 19 an hour meaning two people living together income combined is 19 an hour.

What does a man have to make to be considered a real man 100 an hour , 200?

I don't live in some rich down like dc or nyc. Babysitters here get paid like 5 an hour or so. If you made 18 an hour babysitting them u made more then most people in my city do.

...If a man quits work while the female works , the NYTimes won't likely publish a trend piece about it ! !! !!

They don't all demand that...I can't be the only one who doesn't but unfortunately there are a lot like that.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... _kids.html
Here is a good article about a guy who quit his job to take care of the kids and household. Note that he maintains his self esteem by being a free lance illustrator.

I'm pretty sure no actual biological cause has been identified, only posited by researchers living in a culture where such role-based values and assumptions are endemic due to hegemony. You may wish to investigate societies that were traditionally matriarchal or egalitarian. Your stance may not be as universal as you assume, which would indicate that it is a learned/cultural value rather than an actual biological drive in humans. Doesn't make it any less real from your point of view, but it could mean that moving to a different subculture could be part of the solution for you.