Apparently autism isn't a permanent disability wtf

Post Reply New Topic

Trump is a trickster. He got slick with his taxes. I think this is going to backfire on him. People resent having to pay taxes, while some rich guy doesn't pay taxes.

As far as I know, all qualifying disabilities under the Social Security Administration (SSA) SSI program are expected to be reviewed every so many years; it is the nature of the program, particularly since many (but, not all) disabilities can be improved or cured.

My qualifying disability include several moderate-to-extreme spinal conditions and their related problems. One of my specialists at the time that I most recently applied for the SSI program made it abundantly clear in his report to SSA that, absent spinal surgery which risks partial or near-complete paralysis (something I refuse to do), I would be more disabled in the future than I was at the time as I have degenerative conditions.

Nonetheless, I was told in a telephone discussion with SSA upon being enrolled into its SSI program that I should expect a review in the future. My lawyer told me that SSA must pay all expenses for any examinations and tests that it requires during a review, so it would be very likely that they would require the minimum number of examinations and tests to confirm my conditions again. SSA isn't stupid, it won't waste its funds on six tests when the first one shows enough proof to continue program enrollment; and, sometimes, they require nothing more than the individual's descriptions since enrollment.

I keep reminding myself that as bad as the SSI program is with its conditions, expectations and restrictions, I only need to play along with its rules for another 12 years when I am transfered to the retiree program. So, comply as best you can with the reviews that SSA expects; and, remember to mention all the ways your disabilities are still affecting your life.

They do review all cases but how long apart your reviews are detrimen if your considered expected to improve, temporary, or permanently disabled.

Mine is done every 4 years and 9-11 months apart. Just shy of the 5-7 year cycle neeeded to be considered permanently disabled. So clearly as I have an incurable disorder and have beeen on it since I was 13-14 and on,y hade few reviews they don't think it's every going away but rig the system so as not to consider it permanent on paper.

Sly, you are misinformed.

1. Pretty much everyone on SSI gets reviewed. That doesn't mean you don't have a permanent disability.

2. My daughter's situation is roughly parallel, she is on SSI for autism (and related problems like depression and anxiety), but she did get her student loans forgiven. I think you need a doctor to certify that the disability is likely to be permanent. Hopefully you have a good relationship with your primary care physician or with a psychiatrist, who can say this for you.

I think maybe you are autistically interpreting the terms too literally. Go ahead and apply for the forgiveness of your loans, the worst they can say is no.

According to the ssa https://www.ssa.gov/disabilityresearch/ ... 9.2012.pdf

A thru U+=Periodic review diary of less than 3 years (medical improvement is expected)
3+= 3-year periodic review diary (non-permanent disability)
5+=5-year periodic review diary (permanent disability)
7+=7-year periodic review diary (permanent disability)

Any thing under 5 year review cycle is considered non permanent aka temporary.

The loan people said I prequalified for loan forgiveness and don't need to attach any documentation (which I paid $16 for since form says I needed it) the loan forgiveness form clearly says to do so must have a 5 or 7 year review and by checking you saying you do, and at the top says lying or knowly making a false statement on the form is punishable by fines, imprisonment or both under us criminal law.
I don't have a 5/7 review so by checking so and submitting it I'm knowingly making a false statement
Is the guy trying to intrap me. I've seen a lot of autisti people in news for getting intrapped by cops to to things they wouldn't normally done without the cop pushing them to. :s

Guy said all I have to do is fill out page two but all that's on it is name, son, address etc and why you qualify and only way for with ssi is if it's reviewed every 5-7 years

Ask a social worker to fill out the forms for you.

Y and i dont know I have a social worker

Why? because you are appraising the situation wrong. Contact your local disability agency and ask if they have someone who can help you with this, for free.

I don't intend to argue back and forth with you about this. If you don't want to or cannot follow my advice, that's okay, there's nothing more I can do for you on this issue.

My educational Psychologist said that. Me and my mum both witnessed his credibility explode before our eyes.

Thanks for the review timetable, sly279! That will be helpful to me and others.

I agree with BeaArthur about recruiting another person to help answer your application(s). By working closely with my lawyer during my application for SSI enrollment, I learned that: 1) having someone else complete government application forms for you is very beneficial (they often know how to answer well); 2) occasionally, not answering an application question can be the most accurate answer to give (at least, the applicant might be waved through regardless of no answer, and, at most, the applicant will be told to answer or risk a detrimental response at which point you can ask why, when any answer would contradict the facts of your matter); and 3) answering as they require can always and frequently be "described" by you or your representative in the future as an inaccurate attempt to comply with application instructions, not describe your ongoing status.

If your loan-forgiveness application is what is trapping you in an illogical loop, answering as it expects probably wouldn't affect your status with the Social Security Administration. Federal agencies don't usually piggyback on other agencies' records unless federal law requires it. And, if federal law requires this compliance, you might want to consider complying and describing your concerns and reservations.

Sorry if it seemed I'm fighting you
I'm super anxious cause I'd thought it'd been settled and I have all the crap from work to deal with too, i dont know how to write an accomendation letter either
And I'm concerned going for help will get me labeled as unable to handle money

Where and who would I go to?
I contacted Tom for help with Americans with disabilities act but all they did was link me the laws.

Asking for advice from a legal-aid group isn't the same as managing your own money. I wouldn't worry about that angle.

Wait a minute, what's this about "all the crap from work" - are you working? If you are, you won't be able to get your loans forgiven.

If you do work, that tells people you can work.

I work part time time min wage. 15-25 hours is all I can handle
below the allowed poverty line allowed for loan forgiveness $16,000.
Gives me $40 a month income to get supplies and maybe do something fun along with to get me out house even if only working. Fake socializing better then none.

The crap is I have to fight them on hours like said I can't handle 25 or up. 15-20 is my idea area. Plus they'll on me to push every customer to get a credit card which I can't do to my disorders so I need to request a accommodation to not be required to do that.

It's only considered work if it's substantial which is over 1700 a month or something like that. I usually only make 600-800 before taxes and only half that is counted. With exception of months where I get 3 paychecks .

Also make enough to get month bus pass for $25
That and the $40 a month is why I don't want to quit and will miss the job when I lose it. Otherwise I'm stuck at my house 24/7