What qualifies as suicidal thoughts?

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Well I mean f**k it, I can do ETC, its just my family is against it but hell they are pretty nuts really so it doesn't matter but yeah if its no good with situational depression then I feel it might turn me into a zombie for no reason. Which is what most anti depressants do to me which does kind of point towards situational depression. Anti depressants either have no effect or turn me into a zombie so there might not really be anything to correct there. I cry about 5-6 times a day, sometimes for hours and I would say I think about myself in a negative light about every 10 minutes and have thoughts of self harm about every 30 minutes since September of 2015 if any of that helps with mindset. Its pretty all consuming and I can't really function but I can have negative thoughts and just not care I guess with cannabis, I don't know.

dcj, I'm sorry you are having such a difficult time. Thinking daily about death, and persisting month after month with such thoughts, sure as shooting qualifies as suicidal thoughts. The next time you see your CBT therapist, or the MD who prescribed your meds, please tell them you have these thoughts day after day. Nobody should have to deal with that much pain, and especially not alone.

I hope you find an answer.

I have suicidal thoughts although medicine has helped. It used to be everyday now it is only a couple of times a week.

I dont like dealing with people trying to help me with it. Maybe it is because I feel hopeless about it or maybe it is because I never really like talking to people about anything were it is hard for me to describe I feel. Maybe it is the Aspergers making me unable to relate to people trying to help me, wanting to please them and say I am better then they over react when I tel them I still have the thoughts even though they are less.

Sorry to talk about myself, but I hope you feel better. I have seen a lot of your posts and most of them make me think.

I don't know that much about it, but you might look into transcranial magnetic stimulation, a therapy which is now being used to treat depression that is not responding to medication. There are plenty of articles about it on the net.

Whatever the cause it seems to me you have deep clinical depression and I hope you find help, or that you find the strength to carry on. You have given very good reasons to stay alive.

Even a single thought of harming yourself is one too many, we're all very precious and useful and talented as sappy as that sounds, we all deserve to find support and opportunity and feel like we have meaning and hope in our lives.

After doing some more research you should only try ECT as a last resort. First off, make sure that they give you anesthesia because some countries do ECT without anesthesia and then you have a seizure and your body thrashes around and you can break some bones. It has saved people's lives, including mine, but it has also caused severe memory problems and other problems with some people. I met a person who couldn't remember anything of her childhood after having it. However if you are severely depressed and you feel like killing yourself and medicine and therapy and everything else has failed then you might want to consider it. Just talk to a doctor about it and its potential side effects and if you should try it.

So the last few days have reminded me that I have actually had full blown suicidal thoughts with various plans throughout this last year. Once in which I tried to hang myself and failed and quite a few drug overdoses on a number of substances actually but I am still here I guess, I just get up and never speak of it again I guess is how I fly under the radar. I am perplexed, this thread's point was to question rather or not you could have this extreme negativity with suicidal thoughts but still be "happy" per say by ignoring such thoughts. That doesn't seem to be the case, in fact I am worse then I have ever been, I just seek less help...

I kinda feel hopeless

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicidal_ideation

The wiki covers the jest of it, though there's no real diagnostic or qualifying factors regarding such thoughts.

Form own experience, my thoughts where abnormal in a sense I could envision myself hanging from objects, such thoughts would preoccupy any and all thought, imeadeately thinking about death and preoccupation with the topic of death and demonic vocal patterns that such are extremely negative. At such point I became interested in people actually dying, by murder, by execution, by accident and the remains or aftermath of such and how i could becoe part of death.

When someone thinks about suicide as a relief but doesn't necessarily have or follow a plan, it's called suicidal ideation. I do it sometimes when I feel I can't take all the feelings I'm feeling, or when I'm feeling hopeless.

Something I've done which is (probably) better is to write a short list of some things that are positive. Sometimes the only thing I can think of that is positive is that I didn't miss the train, or that I found matching socks to wear today. Just start anywhere, think of any five things. After the first few, I find I get momentum, and find more things that are positive.

It doesn't erase the thing(s) that upset me initially, but it is a good start, and it helps me to get to a place where I can think logically through the facts, and decide whether I should take an action to make things better.