What's wrong with wishing other people dead?

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It's one thing to be upset with your body, or to have difficulty with anger. It's a totally different matter if you're making lists of people who should "die or suffer" because you can't see your own hoo-ha. Is it their fault? Also, it's entirely inappropriate to body shame other WP members because you are jealous of them. In the past you actually posted the names of members you "hated" because of their bodies or their perceived attributes. To the best of my knowledge there has never been an apology made to those members.

Your comments that certain women should "die" or "suffer" because of their bodies were no different than Incel ideology, whether you meant it that way or not. We don't tolerate Incel rhetoric, and your comment was no different in its hatred.

I'm sorry you are having difficulty with your weight. Be angry with yourself or your situation if you feel it's that important, but please don't wish death, injury or suffering upon others, and certainly don't insult members of Wrong Planet whom you've never even met. That's hurtful. We all come here for acceptance, and I'm sure you do too.

Wishing someone dead does not cause them to drop dead

Wishing someone dead, just because they are (allegedly) thinner and smarter than you does not seem justified

There are seven billion people

Only one is the thinnest

Only one is the smartest


Some drugs and diseases cause weight gain or loss


Theory of Multiple Intelligences


Some precious lil "people" are not as "smart" as they act like they are

Have you ever heard the expression "Perception is reality"?

You could choose to look at things entirely differently than you do. Others will be exactly the same as they are, but rather than being envious of them and wishing they would suffer or die, you could choose to be happy for them that they are fit and healthy, that they've been blessed with decent looks, that they're energetic, hard working, focused, and achieving goals. You could choose to be inspired by them, especially those who used to be fat, and of the mindset that if they can do it, you can do it.

How you perceive the world around you dictates your reality. At present, you're extremely envious and vindictive and those thoughts & reactions to others around you are making you miserable. (Thoughts dictate emotions.) But if you made a conscious effort to be happy for someone else' physical fitness, and to applaud their accomplishments, you'd be filling your own head with positivity, feel less stressed and a little more cheery, and be able to better focus on yourself and your goals vs. spending your time wishing bad things would happen to other people.

You know why exercising didn't work for you? Because you stopped. You gave up. There's no such thing as instant gratification. Losing weight and getting into shape is a long process. Think about this: How long did it take to get fat? Answer: Years. So, how long do you think it takes to get fit? Answer: Same thing. Years.

~7 years ago I was 6'2" 242lbs and fat with a 38" waist. At the moment I'm somewhere around 200lbs and fit with a ~33" waist and probably hovering around 14.5%bf (guesstimate) & in the Summer when I'm VERY active I can slim right down to 10-10.5%bf. I do 111 pushups every day, sometimes more and rarely skip them. I've been doing them for ~4-5+ years and must have done more than 300,000 now, maybe more. I used to be weak, now I'm strong. I used to be fatigued on a long walk and now I can run 10+ miles. But I didn't start with 111 pushups a day, and I didn't start running 10miles. I started low and didn't quit. And I eat a lot, too. Anywhere from 5-8 times per day. Do the work and eat the right foods at the right intervals and anyone can lose fat and gain muscle. And remember, muscle is 5x the density of fat, so when you build muscle and lose fat, your scale won't show big losses, but your waistline will as it shrinks - so don't just measure total lbs lost because that's not all that matters.

If you have no idea what to do or where to start in terms of diet and exercise I highly recommend the book "Body for Life" by Bill Phillips. It's a very simple program of weights, cardio, and diet. When I stuck to it for 3 months I dropped 50lbs as I went from 235lbs down to 185lbs. It involves weights for 45mins every 2nd day, cardio for 20mins every 2nd day, eating 6 times a day, resting & a bit of a diet cheat day on the 7th day rinse & repeat.

Personally I don't life any weights except tools & materials, I just do pushups and bodyweight squats, hike stairs, go for runs, do some stretches. Eat often (the right foods!) drink water and get sleep. Those are the habits people have to be in to transform their bodies from unhealthily overweight to feeling fit and looking good. If you're willing to do the work and be disciplined about it, you can have a healthier fitter body. If you're not willing to do the work, you won't achieve the results, simple as that. But there is no reason, EVER, to wish death upon someone for being something you are not - that's just a terrible attitude and one you should consider abandoning as you adopt a healthier perspective.

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No for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.

And to answer your thread title question.. umm, wishing other people dead isn't exactly a socially acceptable behaviour if you haven't noticed. It's extremely mean spirited for no good reason whatsoever. Envy is not a reason to wish someone were dead. Other people out in the real world where you live, and on here on the forum, have done nothing wrong and don't deserve to die because they're in better shape than you are. And they certainly did not make you make poor dietary or exercise/lifestyle choices that have caused you to be overweight. Perhaps some of your food/exercise issues stem from mental health issues like depression or lack of impulse control, but again, none of these other people are responsible for these personal faults of yours. Stop hating other people because you hate yourself. Decide that you want to change for the better for yourself, and then take action and do it. Ignore other people unless they add positivity and motivation to you and your goals. Otherwise who they are, what they look like, what they do, what they eat and drink and so on do not concern you. Only you concern you, so focus on yourself and never give up. Be disciplined and persistent. Be Relentless - that's how people improve themselves; I speak from experience.

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No for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.

i had once lost like 35 kilogramms of weight. took me about 2 years or so. i got them back later, because i simply slacked my diet. and ya, no exercise helps without a diet. which has to be taken very serious, and is quite hard to follow first months. every time u eat something like a cake, u make a choice between a treat and appearence. i had a choice of being relatively thin (cant be really thin, my bone frame wont allow) but never ever thinking about sweets etc, or eating what i want, when i want, and being fat. i made it twice, differently, with full understanding and responsibility.

being overweight doesnt affect ur relationship with other people. and some men even like it, too. while public expression of hate does affect ur relationship with the public in question. even topic name - "whats wrong", as u dont understand whats wrong. u express thoughts, dangerously close to fashism, u feel in full right to do so, and then u lament on how u dont fit. to have extra weight is ur choice. to hate, is ur choice. to verbally attack ppl for a formal division is ur choice.

so here is the deal. u feel terrible. but u want to blame somebody, somebody who isnt u, for whats not their fault. its not even about ur weight. one can be integer and happy as overweight person. its about ur moral choices. hate drains and destroys a personality. and it can be dealt with, only if u make a choice to deal with it. to train ur own mind with or without training ur body. impulse control. when i want to f*****g destroy something, i take a handgum (aka silly putty). or i go and destroy not-real enemies in computer game. a good way to sink negative emotions.

i have had eposodes of "i wish somebody to die". like somebody who tried to rape me. i totally wanted them dead or otherwise not existing. same as with many cases of physical or moral atrocities i have been subjected to, witnessed or heard about. key word, atrocity. as my eyes told the tale of an act of betrayal, i wanted the traitor dead. key here, is a choice made. a choice to act sordid. a choice to commit a crime.

i dont want u dead or away from wp, but i would like to see u working with ur issues, rather than refusing to acknowledge them. its not allways easy to find a healthy border between indulgence and dignity, but u totally have crossed it. u can un-cross it. and u would feel much, much happier when u manage that. or u could decide to hate me too, for what i write here. u wouldnt be the first, u wouldnt be the last. guardian demon, out.

All hatred is self hatred.

You need to stop with the needless self hatred.

^ LMAO, no it's not. Those I hate are because they have done dastardly sh*t to me and/or loved ones. It's all about their choices and actions that influenced my life.

To address the title of the thread:

While it's generally not seen as a good thing, if you wish somebody who hurt you or caused great harm to you (or others) to die, a lot of people will sympathise, openly or not.

To wish others to "suffer and die" as punishment for your own troubles/mistakes of which they are fully innocent and probably unware, is dangerous, unhealthy and hateful and yes, most people will consider it wrong.

Honestly, I have been trying and trying for years to lose weight and make everyone happy, but not much progress. I am aware of my jealousy and anger issues, and trying since childhood; my dad treated me like s**t, and my brother compared me to Mimi from the Drew Carey show.

A few months after meeting my husband, he admitted that a deaf coworker of his is cute (his words, not mine). That got on my nerves a little because I thought he didn't love me anymore. I did let that go, because he knew and I knew that we think about each other everyday.

Attacking others and body-shaming members of WP is not acceptable.