I'm swearing off the PPR and News boards

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I don't blame you. I have a really hard time knowing how to take people's 'tones' in general, but toss politics into the mix? I could think two people are about to kill each other and for all I know they're having an enjoyable back and forth. It all seems so tense and combative to me. I think it's easy for topics like politics to bring out the worst in people, especially people who feel passionate about a thing one way or the other. Self care is important and if something only makes you feel bad, why bother with it if it does you no harm to stay away. My thoughts it on it all anyway.

That's exactly my point. It makes me feel miserable, so why keep caring about it?

I have a crappy response to that. I think it's hard to stop caring about things you care about.

I do stuff like that to sometimes. Then I have these moments, like wth, am I a masochist or something? What is my problem? But for me at least, it can be really hard to disengage from a thing I feel about. That kind of stuff sticks in my brain even when I want it out of my head. It's not easy to keep away from something your drawn to. It's doable, but it's rough for a bit to fight those impulses to go head into a thing even when you know all it's going to do is make you agitated. But that's me. Your stuff might be way different.

Regardless, I can appreciate that.

Actually I think my situation is very much like yours. I think I'm a bit of a masochist myself and I'm addicted to the drama of it all. But i want to put an end to it now.

This is how I feel.

love and dating ain't exactly about love IMHO.

I think that's a common tendency among people with ASD. The dopamine that's associated with things that stress us out becomes addictive, even when we don't have time/energy/etc for it.

It's hard to learn to manage those tendencies and it probably can interact with bipolar tendencies.

If you do get involved again you might also want to manage the level of emotional investment. At the end of the day we're mostly just nobodies with the same condition, our arguments are rarely consequential. It's one thing to be upset over insults, condescension, intellectual dishonesty, etc, but if some of it is merely from interacting with opinions that contradict your own, it's worth examining why it even has weight.

It's not like anyone scores points for having a more solid argument, or for articulating their case better. Nothing is gained by 'winning', nothing is lost by 'losing'.

At the end of the day, the worst potential outcome is finding out more people disagree with your view than anticipated. It isn't rejection of you as a person, it isn't judgment of you or any aspect of your person.

You're well-liked and respected, remember that first and foremost whether or not you engage with PPR and whether or not arguments go your way or not.

don't let mean people bait you.

Who mentioned "Marxism"?
Certainly not in those two quotes. <confused>

Ummm.
The same can be said about applying the term "Fascist" to anyone that disagrees with the ENTIRE progressive narrative.

Did you read the whole thread?



You can try to dunk, but srsly:

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If you're suggesting that about me I tend to be pretty careful about which political ideologies I apply that to, it's just that reactionary nationalism is becoming more popular. I know you'd like to have a go at me over some strawmen, but are you sure this is the board to be doing it on?

TWISTY: tries to avoid this s**t
this s**t: oh howdy there

Perhaps my natal chart in astrology is to blame? You see I have both Pluto and something called Black Moon Lilith conjunct almost perfectly together in my 10th House Midheaven under Scorpio.

From what I have researched the "Lilith" aspect of this conjunction means I am prone to protesting and rebelling against anything and everything in society, even stuff that would normally allign with what I think is right and wrong.

I missed it.
Thank you for the link.

Inherent contrarian?
I had a period in my life where I was like that but gradually it shifted towards being willing to argue what I think is right, even if it's unpopular or if the responses will involve more snark than reasonable counterpoints. I think it's less exhausting to try to take a stance you actually agree with than just playing OPFOR.

Getting dogpiled, or dealing with rude or condescending or intellectually dishonest opponents is exhausting though, no matter what stances one holds. It's probably worse here because we might be at a disadvantage when it comes to evaluating tone and what motivates someone else's framing of an issue.

Like say when I mentioned your comment about Marxism as related to Fox News, ultimately what I mean is that is a narrative that they push consistently into the mainstream, not that you literally watch Fox News. By not having adequate detail both of us can fail to understand what's actually informing each other, as well as what we actually understand about each other's position, as well as what actually meant by what is being said.

But on the other hand, how many people want to read and write blocks of that^^ just to get their points across or to discuss their ideas?

If we actually wrote like that we would* have people trying to make snarky non-points because they didn't bother reading enough to get the context. The more text, the less inclined some people are to read it before replying.

*wouldn't corrected to would

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That's true... you make a good point about all of that.

Being honest my feelings towards thinking that the left is embracing Marxism comes not from Right Wing talking points (I tend to ignore those because I realize it's all pure propaganda now) but from the number of comments I have read on places like reddit, youtube, quora, and facebook by self-proclaimed marxists (iow tankies and apologists for monsters like Mao, Stalin, and Fidel) whose argument for defending this is claiming that America is just an evil empire that needs to be destroyed. I have read comments from countless people who literally claim this.

It's about the whole "Enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing which I think is a load of crap. But just as we can't convince Trump supporters that he's not working in their best interest you can't do the same with these guys either.

If that makes any sense?