How can I stop worrying about the fear of dying ?

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Silence23
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24 Feb 2023, 8:04 am

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That sounds like you advice to take Psilocybin daily (not sure if you meant that though).

To deal with end of life anxiety you don't make Psilocybin a part of your diet. Taking it one time could be enough already. But the studies which say it helps all include a psychotherapist. So doing it on your own may not have the same effect as in the studies.

I never said daily, but feel free if that's your thing.

I'm much more of a macro dose kind of guy 1-4x/year vs. a daily microdose kind of guy.

Do you have any experience with it? There's no psychotherapist required to experience real benefits from it. Sure, it might help, and then some therapy nerd could measure the resulting changes and tell you how much better you feel about yourself and your life and how much less anxiety you have about death/dying etc.

Yea, I wrote that because I don't think that microdosing would help with end of life anxiety. But as you wrote "a little magic in your diet", it sounded like you recommend daily microdosing (or macrodosing).

While microdosing Psilocybin could possibly reduce the end of life anxiety through the anti-anxiety effects antidepressants have, it does not deal with the cause of end of life anxiety. A full on psychedelic experience can in some cases enable a person to deal with the cause of end of life anxiety. But psychedelics are kinda unpredictable, so there is no guarantee they would help.

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But by all means, if someone wants to seek out a psychotherapist that administers psilocybin and then conducts their form of talk therapy, then go nuts & give'r all ya like. I'm sure that'd be fine, too.

I don't think it's talk therapy. It's probably more like they give a person a high dose of Psilocybin, and then leave them alone for most of the time, while sticking around for a few hours until the effects wear off. So they can intervene in case a "complicated experience" occurs. So the job of the psychoterhapist is similar to what shamans do when they give people Ayahuasca.

Here's an article about using Psilocybin to deal with end of life anxiety:
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/09/0 ... index.html

By contrast, one to three months after taking psilocybin the patients reported feeling less anxious and their overall mood had improved. By the six-month mark, the group's average score on a common scale used to measure depression had declined by 30 percent, according to the study, which was published in the Archives of General Psychiatry.

During the psilocybin sessions, which lasted six hours, the patients lay on a couch and listened to music through headphones.



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24 Feb 2023, 8:43 am

^Oh. So in that method people just need trip sitter - that's a common recommendation for newbies. Doesn't have to be a doctor/therapist.

There's also forms of talk therapy done while people are on psilocybin or mdma. I talked with a MD at the beach once who was a total new age hippie and basically Became a Doctor to further the use of psychedelics in modern medicine like this. I think it'd be easier and more beneficial to have talk therapy under the influence of mdma than psilocybin, but it'd still be doable with shrooms. Just easier to get distracted on shrooms for sure.


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24 Feb 2023, 9:17 am

My father was in WWII and had to deal with death everyday; he was wounded in Sicily (I suspect he was an Aspie also). He said "fxxk it, if it happens it happens. Worrying about if death might happen is useless ; it won't change it one iota