28 Apr 2023, 11:32 am
28 Apr 2023, 11:35 am
Recidivist wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Recidivist wrote:
I've never heard it describes as Asperger's Disorder before 
Misdiagnosing Narcissism as Asperger's Disorder
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Asperger's Disorder is often misdiagnosed as a cluster B personality disorder, most often as the Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).
Misdiagnosing Narcissism as Asperger's Disorder
Did anyone else feel a chill up their spine after reading this?
A most disturbing assessment of autism.
The problem I have is that this sounds too definitive/black&white.
Much too SPECIFIC.
After all, it is an autism SPECTRUM.
I might look at the link more closely.
EDIT: Ironically, the website is called "HealthyPlace".
The article was written by Sam Vaknin , you should investigate him if you want troofs , he has a YT channel.
Sam Vaknin wrote:
I am a former visiting professor of psychology, a current professor of finance, and the author of the first book ever on "narcissistic abuse" (a phrase I coined, among many others, in the 1990s), "Malignant Self-love: narcissism Revisited". My work in psychology: http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/med...
Well, as I said, I have issues with some of the things he has written, but I always try to keep an open mind.
I am not simply dismissing what he says.
I am just questioning his simplicity in some of the things he talks about regarding autism.
For example, I have no trouble looking ppl in the eyes.
I actually enjoy it, and that gets me into trouble because:
"Half the men I meet think I am gay, and half the women I meet think I am trying to crack onto them".
While simplicity can be good in introducing complex concepts, it may also give some unenlightened ppl the wrong impression about those on the spectrum.
After all: “When you meet one person with Autism, you’ve met one person with Autism”.
28 Apr 2023, 11:39 am
Joe90 wrote:
So now having Asperger's means I'm a narcissist. Just as I never thought it was humanly possible to despise having ASD any more than I already do...
You should read my posts again.
There is nothing to suggest to me you are a narcissist.
28 Apr 2023, 11:39 am
Most of my "yes" answers were pertaining to defending other people, not myself.
Example: Holding a grudge.
I don't hold a grudge against people who hurt me.
I forgive too easily. Way too easily, probably.
I said "yes" because I hold a grudge against people who hurt my friends or family.
Mess with my friends or family and I'm a mess.
28 Apr 2023, 11:39 am
Pepe wrote:
Well, as I said, I have issues with some of the things he has written, but I always try to keep an open mind.
I am not simply dismissing what he says.
I am just questioning his simplicity in some of the things he talks about regarding autism.
For example, I have no trouble looking ppl in the eyes.
I actually enjoy it, and that gets me into trouble because:
"Half the men I meet think I am gay, and half the women I meet think I am trying to crack onto them".
While simplicity can be good in introducing complex concepts, it may also give some unenlightened ppl the wrong impression about those on the spectrum.
After all: “When you meet one person with Autism, you’ve met one person with Autism”.
I agree, he pigeonholed autism, but his speciality is narcissism, so I can forgive him for that.
28 Apr 2023, 11:39 am
28 Apr 2023, 11:42 am
Recidivist wrote:
^ I related a lot to narcissism, so thought I was for a while before my ASD diagnosis. I don't deny that I have narcissistic traits and I'm Ok with that as it can help with self esteem issues (sometimes)
At one time I thought I was a psychopath.
Apparently, many on the spectrum have wondered that about themselves at one point due to often having poor empathy skills.
And, no, if you have a conscience, you aren't a psychopath.
28 Apr 2023, 11:44 am
28 Apr 2023, 11:44 am
Joe90 wrote:
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I gotta be careful as this is the Haven but *slaps Joe across the face* , snap out of it , you are being hysterical.
It's OK.
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Joe, you are clearly having reading comprehension issues at the moment. Where has anyone said Aspergers = Narcissist?
The article quoted in this thread. I do have trouble understanding articles. What is it actually trying to say? Because to me it sounded like it was saying Asperger's=narcissism.
It is an article about the MISDIAGNOSES of Narcissism when in fact, it could be autism.
28 Apr 2023, 11:45 am
28 Apr 2023, 11:45 am
Pepe wrote:
Recidivist wrote:
^ I related a lot to narcissism, so thought I was for a while before my ASD diagnosis. I don't deny that I have narcissistic traits and I'm Ok with that as it can help with self esteem issues (sometimes)
At one time I thought I was a psychopath.
Apparently, many on the spectrum have wondered that about themselves at one point due to often having poor empathy skills.
And, no, if you have a conscience, you aren't a psychopath.
People on the spectrum don't have poor empathy skills.
I know I don't.
I have too much empathy.
I just can't express it verbally.
28 Apr 2023, 11:45 am
Oh...I see. Sorry, I did misunderstand. My bad. 
28 Apr 2023, 11:47 am
Recidivist wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Well, as I said, I have issues with some of the things he has written, but I always try to keep an open mind.
I am not simply dismissing what he says.
I am just questioning his simplicity in some of the things he talks about regarding autism.
For example, I have no trouble looking ppl in the eyes.
I actually enjoy it, and that gets me into trouble because:
"Half the men I meet think I am gay, and half the women I meet think I am trying to crack onto them".
While simplicity can be good in introducing complex concepts, it may also give some unenlightened ppl the wrong impression about those on the spectrum.
After all: “When you meet one person with Autism, you’ve met one person with Autism”.
I agree, he pigeonholed autism, but his speciality is narcissism, so I can forgive him for that.
That is how I saw things too.
He needs to research more into autism, imo.
28 Apr 2023, 11:51 am
Joe90 wrote:
Oh...I see. Sorry, I did misunderstand. My bad.
NP.
Misinterpretation happens a lot with ppl on the spectrum.
Happens to me too all the time, hence my need for konstant Klarification.
BTW: Most of us can develop COGNITIVE empathy through INTELLECTUAL BRIDGES.
28 Apr 2023, 11:58 am
28 Apr 2023, 12:01 pm
