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TwilightPrincess
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01 May 2023, 9:13 am

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I do think though a certain user (can’t mention his name) calling me a creep shows a lack of empathy because ‘creeps’ don’t always have good lives.

I'm not saying that you are a creep although your behavior is questionable at times. With that being said, I will say that I don't waste empathy on creeps. I've done far too much of that already. My empathy extends to people who, even if they've had a difficult life for whatever reason, still treat others decently.

By Questionable do you mean having a funny attitude towards women?
Reasons have already been mentioned in this thread by me and one other member.
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Remember women are not always very nice towards autistic guys so perhaps there is a bit of built up resentment.
:roll: Enough said.

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01 May 2023, 9:23 am

Back in 2018 at the pub one night this older guy said about me in front of 2 women “He’s a weirdo that bloke is I have seen him before”



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02 May 2023, 7:55 am

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Recently a poster labelled me as a "creep" in regards to why women dont want anything to do with me.

Judging from my past posts on wrong planet do you think I deserve to be labbelled that?

It's worth noting that women vastly overuse the word and there isn't always much consistency. Some things are uniformly creepy, like hanging out in the dark near the entrance to a club or in a parking garage. But a lot of it is just a way of justifying their lack of interest and empathy.
Also a lot of the romantic gestures shown in movies are creepy AF in the real world, unless the woman likes it, in which case it's no longer creepy.
So, it can be meaningful or just completely a non-issue and we're expected to just know which it is without access to the rubric. I hate dating.



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02 May 2023, 8:01 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
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Jamesy wrote:
I do think though a certain user (can’t mention his name) calling me a creep shows a lack of empathy because ‘creeps’ don’t always have good lives.

I'm not saying that you are a creep although your behavior is questionable at times. With that being said, I will say that I don't waste empathy on creeps. I've done far too much of that already. My empathy extends to people who, even if they've had a difficult life for whatever reason, still treat others decently.

By Questionable do you mean having a funny attitude towards women?
Reasons have already been mentioned in this thread by me and one other member.
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Remember women are not always very nice towards autistic guys so perhaps there is a bit of built up resentment.
:roll: Enough said.

The only person responsible for your behavior is you.

This is why I wish women would stop using the term so liberally. Some behavior is creepy AF, but some of it is rather innocent at times and could also be seen as endearing if she likes it. Same behavior can result in two very different reactions.



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02 May 2023, 8:15 am

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I do think though a certain user (can’t mention his name) calling me a creep shows a lack of empathy because ‘creeps’ don’t always have good lives. I think we should try and help creepy guys not critic them so much for things they can’t always help since they may have underlying mental health problems.


Maybe this poster has offered empathy in the past many times and is now jaded that empathy doesn't work and decided 'tough love' is a better option?

If someone says they are a creepy guy and need help to be less creepy, all advice is going to be a critique imo.

Edit: Sorry I misread your post, I thought you meant critique not criticize.

Anyone who criticises a creepy guy searching for help being less creepy is not interested in helping and is focusing on the negatives which is natural here. I don't think I've actually seen a thread like this though unless it's a very badly worded thread that others misunderstood.


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02 May 2023, 8:23 am

Define "creep", Jamesy.

What does that mean in your opinion?

I'm not saying you are one, but we should all be on the same page about what it means.


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02 May 2023, 8:26 am

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
I do think though a certain user (can’t mention his name) calling me a creep shows a lack of empathy because ‘creeps’ don’t always have good lives.

I'm not saying that you are a creep although your behavior is questionable at times. With that being said, I will say that I don't waste empathy on creeps. I've done far too much of that already. My empathy extends to people who, even if they've had a difficult life for whatever reason, still treat others decently.

By Questionable do you mean having a funny attitude towards women?
Reasons have already been mentioned in this thread by me and one other member.
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Remember women are not always very nice towards autistic guys so perhaps there is a bit of built up resentment.
:roll: Enough said.

The only person responsible for your behavior is you.

This is why I wish women would stop using the term so liberally. Some behavior is creepy AF, but some of it is rather innocent at times and could also be seen as endearing if she likes it. Same behavior can result in two very different reactions.

Women are going to use the word when they deem it appropriate whether you like it or not, so if I were you, I’d just get used to it. What’s creepy to one person, may not seem so to another, especially when stuff like gender and lived experiences of harassment (etc) are taken into account.



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02 May 2023, 8:48 am

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Women are going to use the word when they deem it appropriate whether you like it or not, so if I were you, I’d just get used to it.


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02 May 2023, 9:01 am

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Women are going to use the word when they deem it appropriate whether you like it or not, so if I were you, I’d just get used to it.


Yes, queen.



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02 May 2023, 9:06 am

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02 May 2023, 10:14 am

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This is why I wish women would stop using the term so liberally. Some behavior is creepy AF, but some of it is rather innocent at times and could also be seen as endearing if she likes it. Same behavior can result in two very different reactions.


So people aren't allowed to label everything they find creepy as creepy? :?


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02 May 2023, 10:39 am

Jamesy wrote:
Recently a poster labelled me as a "creep" in regards to why women dont want anything to do with me.

Judging from my past posts on wrong planet do you think I deserve to be labbelled that?


I don't reckon you're a creep Jamesy


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02 May 2023, 10:43 am

I think when women find things creepy, it's a mix between a biological instinct and a learned protective behaviour. It's not a flawlessly accurate sense, but it doesn't have to be.

Let's say a woman gets a creepy vibe off a man, and so she avoids interacting with him. If the woman is right and the guy is a creep, then she has protected herself from harm by doing something very neutral and easy, just removing herself from the situation. If the woman is wrong and the guy had good intentions, then she has hurt his feelings by removing herself in a neutral way, and maybe missed out on making a nice connection.

For women, the risk of a bad man harming them is more important than the risk of hurting a good man's feelings. Why some men have a problem understanding that, is beyond me, but - plot twist - the type of guy who can't respect this aspect of a woman's experience is actually being a creep.


I don't know enough of your post history to say if you're a creep, Jamesy, but if you acknowledge you have issues with women and decide not to work on those issues, it's not a good thing.



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02 May 2023, 10:53 am

funeralxempire wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
This is why I wish women would stop using the term so liberally. Some behavior is creepy AF, but some of it is rather innocent at times and could also be seen as endearing if she likes it. Same behavior can result in two very different reactions.


So people aren't allowed to label everything they find creepy as creepy? :?


No, women need to lower the threshold of what they find creepy, a list should be made by men of what is and what isn't creepy, so women are easier to hit on :jester:


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02 May 2023, 10:54 am

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02 May 2023, 11:00 am

Recidivist wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
This is why I wish women would stop using the term so liberally. Some behavior is creepy AF, but some of it is rather innocent at times and could also be seen as endearing if she likes it. Same behavior can result in two very different reactions.


So people aren't allowed to label everything they find creepy as creepy? :?


No, women need to lower the threshold of what they find creepy, a list should be made by men of what is and what isn't creepy, so women are easier to hit on :jester:

Women need to know that their feelings don’t matter unless they’ve been approved by an outside source. Otherwise, they’re lacking in empathy.